Animal is calling on the forum scientists and supplement experts for help

[VaughnTrue]

So then KNo3, Vado-6 and PJE?

May need some caff though for dat dere bp drop

If I was consulting with a supplement company in regards to their formulations, I'd highly suggest that they either leave nitrates out entirely, or ask for Kramers pricing/blessing.

[blokpost]

L-citrulline - 6g
Hydromax - 3g
Nitrosigine - 1.5g
Vaso6 - 300mg

[poison]

Because of the consequences that come with nitrates. You can either use nitrates and not include ANY other amino acids, or you have to have Thermolifes blessing (which costs a fair bit of $).

Not patronizing Thermilfe could be a selling point.

-No artificial colors
-no artificial flavors
-no Kramers

[Synapsin]

Nitrates aren't that expensive, but the agreement itself is pretty limited lol

[OT2000]

L-citrulline - 6g
Hydromax - 3g
Nitrosigine - 1.5g
Vaso6 - 300mg

Decent except for hydro

[DASBUNKER]

Some companies can afford nitrates/patented ingredients and still come up with competitive priced products.... but why pay more for raws when it's all about maximizing profit margins amirite?

[poison]

Some companies can afford nitrates/patented ingredients and still come up with competitive priced products.... but why pay more for raws when it's all about maximizing profit margins amirite?

Pump Mode is $19 all day long on the 'zon and it's awesome.

[powercage]

Pump Mode is $19 all day long on the 'zon and it's awesome.

same price here

[VaughnTrue]

Pump Mode is $19 all day long on the 'zon and it's awesome.

very little raws in that, along with a pretty low dose of nitrates.

betaine nitrate is 34.6% nitrates by weight, so each serving only gets you ~346mg of nitrates.

[blokpost]

Decent except for hydro

Why?

[gcoulson]

Curious what the difference is between agmatine, nitrates and L-citrulline for pumps?

Do they do the same thing, just in different ways?

[OT2000]

very little raws in that, along with a pretty low dose of nitrates.

betaine nitrate is 34.6% nitrates by weight, so each serving only gets you ~346mg of nitrates.

Bogo quite often here so two scoops it is. Or even 1.5


Blok it takes a hell of a lot more than that. So not a worthwhile ingredient

[BenBlue]

I'd like to see a two fold product: pump/endurance + focus (no stims, let me stack it or just make a fully formualted PWO with stims included. Don't see the point in mild stims in a pump product)

L Cit at minimum 6+ Grams (no cit mal)
Vaso 6 (300mg)
Whatever Nitrate can be used at a proper dose (I know there are patent issues?)
Taurine at 1.5-2G

Alpha GPC at 300mg minimum
ALCAR at 1G
L-Tyrosine at 3+G
Rhodiola at around 300-500mg 3% rosavins and 1% salidroside (or similar percentages)
L-Phenylanine at maybe 500mg


I'd use something like this ^^^or if you really want to make something unique and awesome you can ditch some of the focus/stress ingredients listed and throw in a proper does of Phenylpiracetam. That would have me very impressed (although I wouldn't bank on it since it would drive up the cost, but I for one would be willing to pay more for a product w superior ingredients like this, and I know im somewhat contradicting my "no stims" comment, but phenylpiracetam get's a pass for me)

[getbigordie18]

They want suggestions for the reformulated Animal Pump

from Stack3d:

The hardcore legacy brand Animal, has announced that it is putting together another powder version of one of its current supplements. This is something we’ve seen the brand do on two previous occasions, firstly with its multi-vitamin Animal Pak then again with its reliable joint support formula Animal Flex.

The next Animal product to get the powder treatment is the pump supplement, Animal Pump. The brand is actually looking to do more than just turn it into a powder; it also plans to reformulate the product. Basically, when the flavored Animal Pump eventually gets released, it won’t feature the same formula as the current pack version.

As mentioned, Animal is working on its updated and powder Animal Pump as we speak, and is also asking what fans want to see in the supplement. Feel free to share your suggestions on any ingredients you’d like to see the brand include in its new Animal Pump in the comments below or on any of our social media platforms.





And go......

Glycerol 5grams, creatine monohydrate 5-10 grams,L-citrulline 6 grams. That would be an amazing product. Also please note I'm in college for biotechnology.

[getbigordie18]

I'd like to see a two fold product: pump/endurance + focus (no stims, let me stack it or just make a fully formualted PWO with stims included. Don't see the point in mild stims in a pump product)

L Cit at minimum 6+ Grams (no cit mal)
Vaso 6 (300mg)
Whatever Nitrate can be used at a proper dose (I know there are patent issues?)
Taurine at 1.5-2G

Alpha GPC at 300mg minimum
ALCAR at 1G
L-Tyrosine at 3+G
Rhodiola at around 300-500mg 3% rosavins and 1% salidroside (or similar percentages)
L-Phenylanine at maybe 500mg


I'd use something like this ^^^or if you really want to make something unique and awesome you can ditch some of the focus/stress ingredients listed and throw in a proper does of Phenylpiracetam. That would have me very impressed (although I wouldn't bank on it since it would drive up the cost, but I for one would be willing to pay more for a product w superior ingredients like this)

I don't see the need in most of those supplements from trial and error. Agmatine was interesting.

[powercage]

Glycerol 5grams, creatine monohydrate 5-10 grams,L-citrulline 6 grams. That would be an amazing product. Also please note I'm in college for biotechnology.

That's not a good formula

[TheFugitive]

That's not a good formula

Ever try shaking 5 grams of glycerol? I have and it's a mutha

[VaughnTrue]

Ever try shaking 5 grams of glycerol? I have and it's a mutha

ever try adding 5g glycerol to carbonated water and experiencing the mouth feel?

[WSMuscle]

If I was consulting with a supplement company in regards to their formulations, I'd highly suggest that they either leave nitrates out entirely, or ask for Kramers pricing/blessing.

If I was consulting with a supplement company in regards to formulations, I wouldn't mention the word nitrates without Kramer's blessing.

[WSMuscle]

Glycerol 5grams, creatine monohydrate 5-10 grams,L-citrulline 6 grams. That would be an amazing product. Also please note I'm in college for biotechnology.

Being in college for biotech has little to nothing to do with what supplement ingredients are going to be beneficial for a given purpose.

As evidenced by your post.

[Rob1882]

very little raws in that, along with a pretty low dose of nitrates.

betaine nitrate is 34.6% nitrates by weight, so each serving only gets you ~346mg of nitrates.

If they drop the price.. 2 scoops :P

Cellucor CN3 the first version was real good with 3g of NO3-T they have since replaced it tho and now its a blend which has Creatine Mono first ingredient in a 6g~ blend. Still have a single tub of the orig CN3 it went on steep discounts when they discontinued it/reformulated it was like 10$ or less or something at the time.

[BB2K]

L-citrulline 8g
200mg caffeine
Nitrates
Taurine

[Iluvmud]

Pump Mode is $19 all day long on the 'zon and it's awesome.

Really that good??

[eatyourspinach]

Pump Mode is $19 all day long on the 'zon and it's awesome.

Purus Labs Noxygen is very similar

[TMac26]

Should be noted that Cordyceps is an excellent suggestion by Poison, it works on saturation too.

So that needs to be considered.


Edit: I Love nitrates but I buy KNO3 cause I'm not giving a ****ing dime to Kramer.

[Immichaelski]

Cool. I love animal products. I take a lot of stuff but I actually feel the animal ones. Animal stak is one of my favorite supplements. That stuff gives me rage snd makes my libido sky high and I don’t know how.

[poison]

Really that good??

Nitrates are that good, yeah. And it's heavily flavored, which most people like.

[poison]

Should be noted that Cordyceps is an excellent suggestion by Poison, it works on saturation too.

So that needs to be considered.


Edit: I Love nitrates but I buy KNO3 cause I'm not giving a ****ing dime to Kramer.

But I'll add: not all cordyceps are the same, in fact most cordy sucks. I would go to mst and either get their supplier on speed dial, or buy from mst. It's that much better. It even blows the studied Cs4 away (though some of their formulations include Cs4).