2020 Toyota Supra news!

[1QWIK7]

Right, so it's no mystery that small engines can make big power. Question is, why did they release this one with mediocre power and charge a premium price?

Because they want supra fanboys to buy them, then in 2 years debut a model with a V8 or something. Then more fanboys will get that as well.

It's like it's good marketing but at the same time not. Personally, i think it'll fail. But i hope not because toyota is a good brand, because they're known for it's reliability but when it comes to stuff like this, i don't think they're good at it at all.

[Mark1T]

For that price, I'd expect north of 400hp..........I mean hell, my truck has 355hp and 385lb-ft. stock........

I agree. I think the next step up for the BMW Z4 M40i engine is 385hp which would be acceptable, but $50K is still high.

[iifymbro]

2018/19 Mustang GT with Performance Pack 2, which is a $45,000 car 2.9 seconds faster than the Porsche 718 Cayman GTS, which ran a 7:40 ring time.

Note that the only cars tested in C&D's lightning lap that beat the Mustang GT with Performance Pack 2 were a 911 GT3, Ford GT, Huracan Performante, 720S, Corvette ZR1, and Porsche GT2 RS.

goddamn Ford




As for this supra..... ugly, underpowered for the price, no thx jeff. Never been into Asian cars though, not my style.

[1QWIK7]

I agree. I think the next step up for the BMW Z4 M40i engine is 385hp which would be acceptable, but $50K is still high.

They should've just called it a BMW supra. Because then at least the price tag would make sense.

lol @ 50-55k for THAT so called toyota supra lol.

[BootneckBrah]

looks like a hyundai

This.


Styling is disgust.

[twopiece]

flat6 twinturbo hnngggg

...toyota really knows how to make good driving cars...


...this amazing platform toyota is giving us...

don't realize the BMW engine in it is not mod friendly

mmmk

[twopiece]

Right, so it's no mystery that small engines can make big power. Question is, why did they release this one with mediocre power and charge a premium price?

Because they want supra fanboys to buy them, then in 2 years debut a model with a V8 or something. Then more fanboys will get that as well.

It's like it's good marketing but at the same time not. Personally, i think it'll fail. But i hope not because toyota is a good brand, because they're known for it's reliability but when it comes to stuff like this, i don't think they're good at it at all.

Because Toyota didn't do it themselves and now BMW dictate the power and price the supra will be sold at. And BMW will never allow it to shadow their M cars.

People acting like Toyota have any say in this vehicle beyond the exterior design are either in denial or too stupid to realise Toyota are not the same company that made the previous Supras.

[Firefightn24]

How much can it tow?

[1QWIK7]

Because Toyota didn't do it themselves and now BMW dictate the power and price the supra will be sold at. And BMW will never allow it to shadow their M cars.

People acting like Toyota have any say in this vehicle beyond the exterior design are either in denial or too stupid to realise Toyota are not the same company that made the previous Supras.

No i get it.

It means toyota is the ultimate cuck and allowed BMW destroy the supra name. The MKIV was legendary, this new supra is a joke.

[twopiece]

No i get it.

It means toyota is the ultimate cuck and allowed BMW destroy the supra name. The MKIV was legendary, this new supra is a joke.

Cucked indeed. Not sure I agree BMW are to blame though. They just built the car they were always going to build. Toyota agreed to sell a watered down Supra.

It’s not a bad car, objectively speaking. The M240i is a good thing and this will be similar but better. It’s just not what people wanted.

[aal04]

For that price, I'd expect north of 400hp..........I mean hell, my truck has 355hp and 385lb-ft. stock........

B58 is a relatively new engine.

100% stock with software update got them 430whp. The first wave are just coming off warranty now so expect a lot more lab work.

[brianphi]

The 0-60 times on the supra are better than the z4... toyota wanted a balanced car... add 50-100hp and it's going to be very quick... sub 3.9 to 60 easily. I don't want one but you all need to quit.

Im sure a 385 supra rz type r limited will come out.

[IH8RICE]

B58 is a relatively new engine.

100% stock with software update got them 430whp. The first wave are just coming off warranty now so expect a lot more lab work.

Too bad the fuel system can’t hold more than 400rwhp.

The 0-60 times on the supra are better than the z4... toyota wanted a balanced car... add 50-100hp and it's going to be very quick... sub 3.9 to 60 easily. I don't want one but you all need to quit.

Im sure a 385 supra rz type r limited will come out.

You talking about what ifs and could bes. Gtfo.

[twopiece]

The 0-60 times on the supra are better than the z4... toyota wanted a balanced car... add 50-100hp and it's going to be very quick... sub 3.9 to 60 easily. I don't want one but you all need to quit.

Im sure a 385 supra rz type r limited will come out.

BMW have already revised their time down to 0.1s quicker than Toyota’s.

[elterrible987]

It would have made more sense for them to use a lexus is350 or RC F as the basis of the supra instead of the bmw z4.

The only real advantage I can see is that the z4 weighs a lot less, but Im sure they could have gotten the weight down. The suspension could always be tuned to be more sporty vs luxury.

It just seems really lazy of Toyota, to take a bmw car and slap on a different body panel and call it a supra.

[jaygee15]

Someone just paid 2.1 million dollars for this car at Arizona barrett Jackson lmao

[Chronic23]

Someone just paid 2.1 million dollars for this car at Arizona barrett Jackson lmao

and 1.1 for the mustang (but it was the CEO of Arizona Barrett). It actually doesn't look too bad, I guess I'm going to have to wait to see it in person.

[1QWIK7]

Someone just paid 2.1 million dollars for this car at Arizona barrett Jackson lmao

Well it was for "charity" lol.

Not sure why anyone would really use this car otherwise, (if you're actually rich enough to have spent 2.1 million dollars). I would have just given this so called supra away.

Whoever wants it raise their hand first, first hand i see it's theirs LOL.

[Chronic23]

Honestly looks much worse on the road, and in action, than in the showroom. Looks like a terribly over stylized hotwheels car.

To each their own I guess. I'm not really crazy about the red on the outside of the mirrors, but I imagine it would be with red matching interior as well.

[HairyWBush]

3 questions
why is it ugly, why does it have bmw interior, and why do I not see a manual shifter?

[1QWIK7]

3 questions
why is it ugly, why does it have bmw interior, and why do I not see a manual shifter?

Easy.

Because BMW, because BMW, and because BMW.

[HairyWBush]

Easy.

Because BMW, because BMW, and because BMW.

oh. I don't like BMW then
screw this just buy a hellcat

[1QWIK7]

oh. I don't like BMW then
screw this just buy a hellcat

EXACTLY.

Hellcat charger all day over this POS.

[brianphi]

You talking about what ifs and could bes. Gtfo.

You are right, no way anyone will get more power out of this mild turbocharged motor. The car will be stuck at a pathetically slow 4.1 seconds to 60mph.

[IH8RICE]

You are right, no way anyone will get more power out of this mild turbocharged motor. The car will be stuck at a pathetically slow 4.1 seconds to 60mph.

Don’t be obtuse. It’s obvious minor Bolton’s and a fuel pump and injectors will make this thing fairly quick for what it is. The platform itself is inferior to the 2jz and Toyota is to blame for that. You don’t come out with a Supra and go away from what made the mk4 special. As others have said, most haven’t even modded the engine yet because most are still carrying warranties. Let’s see just how much this thing can make before blowing up compared to the twenty+ year old engine from its predecessor.

[brianphi]

You are basing the potential on your own speculation. The platform itself sounds lovely with regards to sports cars and the reasons drivers choose them over say, a hellcat. I suspect it will have the steering feedback the last gen sorely missed on, and will feel significantly lighter (mostly because it isn't 3500lbs and is not nose heavy like an mk4..).

Wait until you drive one and remember the NSX was a bigger departure than the new Supra will be. Soon they will all be electric anyhow.

[StiffSproles]

Why would I pay $50,000 for a poverty Supra when I can pay the same amount for a Camro 2SS?

You can get a Camaro RS 1LE Coupe that outperforms a poverty ass Supra for $10,000 less.

[greenleaf]

Someone just paid 2.1 million dollars for this car at Arizona barrett Jackson lmao

"More than you can afford pal, Supra."

$210k sale commission goes to BJ. LOL.

[Scarrdbutsmartr]

I feel they took everything that made the Supra epic, removed it and we are getting a generic "just enough" sports car with the Supra name plate attached...

Overbuilt everything that will handle massive amounts of HP and stay together (iron block, forged cranks, stout transmission) - NOPE
Ground breaking styling - NOPE
Etc
Etc..

[iifymbro]

I feel they took everything that made the Supra epic, removed it and we are getting a generic "just enough" sports car with the Supra name plate attached...

Overbuilt everything that will handle massive amounts of HP and stay together - NOPE
Ground breaking styling - NOPE
Etc
Etc..

I would imagine that the designers of this monstrosity thought they were delivering "ground breaking styling"

oh how wrong they were