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    Originally Posted by chickenbroc**** View Post
    On the surface I disagreed



    But he seems to be talking about tech workers who have already been educated in American universities. It doesn’t make business sense to send them back because America has already invested in them.


    They shouldn’t have been here in the first place but these people came here during Obama
    Exactly. Why would we educate people only to send them back?

    If anything, we either shouldn’t allow them here to attend our schools, or we should let them stay if they’re skilled and educated.
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    conservatives love capitalism until it exceeds the borders of the country and they have to compete with the rest of the world.

    Remember how the right hate affirmative action? Best man for the job right? Well what about the corporations that need the best people to fill their positions? Why settle for a mediocre native when you can have a superhuman Chinaman? These corporations aren't going to survive against others competing around the world, working tireless everyday to wipe them out as competition by settling for mediocre white people just so they can feel special and wanted. That's capitalism... (something the left has been seeking to regulate and is constantly criticized for by the right).

    Republicans suddenly care about capitalism now that changes caused by globalization are undermining their ability to compete and get jobs.



    truth is:

    -trump's a limousine liberal
    -you've all been conned
    -he doesn't like the conflict
    -he's a capitalist and history of getting the cheapest labor at the expense of American workers
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    I believe most Trumpers want to hold him accountable but they don't have a powerful voice anywhere and Trump's ego is the only thing making him believe he is actually making a difference.
    They do? Trump supporters are his biggest enablers. They were more than content "trying to understand" instead of holding his feet to the fire. The_Donald and his Twitter supporters may be the biggest enablers on the planet. And anyone who dares to criticize him is called a "concern troll." This is why Trump's Presidency is a failure.

    And about a powerful voice, that's what Trump gets for surrounding himself with the swamp who hate him. Trump is not on your side. He is not for MAGA. Do you understand now?
    digitalchi;1556326171: "imagine him not only getting elected in 2020 but also in 2024 due to some pro trump movement.

    Is there anything in the rules that prevents you from getting elected even though you dont run? I know you technically cant run for a 3rd term"
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    These corporations aren't going to survive against others competing around the world,
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    Which "others competing around the world" are you talking about?
    digitalchi;1556326171: "imagine him not only getting elected in 2020 but also in 2024 due to some pro trump movement.

    Is there anything in the rules that prevents you from getting elected even though you dont run? I know you technically cant run for a 3rd term"
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    Companies are already outsourcing labor directly to places like India remotely. Whether people like it or not, advances in technology and transportation make you have to compete with labor across the globe. Best to differentiate yourself and prepare for that reality.

    Importing skilled labor is so much better for the economy than importing unskilled labor.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    They do? Trump supporters are his biggest enablers. They were more than content "trying to understand" instead of holding his feet to the fire. The_Donald and his Twitter supporters may be the biggest enablers on the planet. And anyone who dares to criticize him is called a "concern troll." This is why Trump's Presidency is a failure.

    And about a powerful voice, that's what Trump gets for surrounding himself with the swamp who hate him. Trump is not on your side. He is not for MAGA. Do you understand now?
    He is for MAGA, and White Collar Trump supporters I talk to here in AZ are firm in their criticism, there isn't a blind eye to what he does and doesn't do. Not everyone that supports the Don is a mouth breathing Q-tard.
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    He is for MAGA, and White Collar Trump supporters I talk to here in AZ are firm in their criticism, there isn't a blind eye to what he does and doesn't do. Not everyone that supports the Don is a mouth breathing Q-tard.
    Trump is not for MAGA. Proof? He has maybe done 3 things that can be counted as MAGA. Otherwise, he's a dumber version of George W. Bush.

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    truth is:

    -trump's a limousine liberal
    -you've all been conned
    -he doesn't like the conflict
    -he's a capitalist and history of getting the cheapest labor at the expense of American workers
    digitalchi;1556326171: "imagine him not only getting elected in 2020 but also in 2024 due to some pro trump movement.

    Is there anything in the rules that prevents you from getting elected even though you dont run? I know you technically cant run for a 3rd term"
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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    Another mind-blowing instance from Trump.

    He decides to announce this......during a government shutdown.

    Tomorrows headline:

    "Trump prioritizes foreign workers job security as 800k Americans are working for free"

    Holy fuk
    So then he will have the media parroting his original talking points? Then he can do an about face back to his original position and have the media on his side? This truly is intergalactic, 4D.



    Of course, assuming that's what happens...
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    Total disagree with Trump on this one.
      
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    Trump is not for MAGA. Proof? He has maybe done 3 things that can be counted as MAGA. Otherwise, he's a dumber version of George W. Bush.

    Tamorlane said it best:
    He is MAGA but literally everyone in the political world is a career politician who intend to stay employed beyond the God Emperor's reign. To support Don would be akin to career suicide, it would be nice if he brought in more academics who have nothing to lose politically by supporting him.
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    Wasn't OP for two years railing about how Trump voters are uneducated blue collar slobs and only smart college educated voters vote democrat?
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    it would be nice if he brought in more academics
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    Fukin cuckservatives lol. When will they learn?

    Especially to tech companies that vote Democrat in unison.
    Most H1Bs are Indians

    90% (srs) of Indian Americans vote dem

    Out of all the millions of based conservative Indians who voted for Modi, we only seem to get the most cucked leftists (obviously many of them don't understand what they're voting for, like my neighbor who was horrified when I explained that the pussyhat wearing Dem he voted for wants to build section 8 next to us)
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    This is a myth. Only 4% of illegals work in farms. Most illegals in the USA work in construction/transportation/plumbing/etc. etc.
    They displace black American workers disproportionately, but Trump didn't get even the tiniest bit of credit for trying to help poorer, unqualified black Americans get jobs by deporting illegals

    I dont know why he bothered pandering to people who will always hate him cause he rassis
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    Ok, so I was heading to Brenham from Houston and saw a sign for a coming soon cricket stadium and wondered what that was about
    Its basically a massive scam that will leave city taxpayers on the hook for years after it fails

    Utterly disgusting that it was approved and the worst of small town corrupt politics, but people here voted to #resist Drumpf in the last city election and that's what you get...
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    conservatives love capitalism until it exceeds the borders of the country and they have to compete with the rest of the world.

    Remember how the right hate affirmative action? Best man for the job right? Well what about the corporations that need the best people to fill their positions? Why settle for a mediocre native when you can have a superhuman Chinaman? These corporations aren't going to survive against others competing around the world, working tireless everyday to wipe them out as competition by settling for mediocre white people just so they can feel special and wanted. That's capitalism... (something the left has been seeking to regulate and is constantly criticized for by the right).

    Republicans suddenly care about capitalism now that changes caused by globalization are undermining their ability to compete and get jobs.



    truth is:

    -trump's a limousine liberal
    -you've all been conned
    -he doesn't like the conflict
    -he's a capitalist and history of getting the cheapest labor at the expense of American workers
    Why hire a native when you can hire a Chinaman for half the price? I swear you're one of the worst posters here.

    **** has nothing to do with ability. If that was the case China wouldn't have spies everywhere stealing peoples innovations.
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    Trump Plans ‘Potential Pathway to Citizenship’ for Foreign H-1B Workers

    "President Trump says he plans to offer foreign workers imported to the United States by Silicon Valley tech conglomerates and multinational corporations every year a “potential path to citizenship..."
    FFS

    Trump helps big business rape the working man again.
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    "In a tweet Friday morning, Trump reversed course on his “Buy American, Hire American” executive order, saying he wants to offer a pathway to U.S. citizenship to the hundreds of thousands of foreign workers living in the country on the H-1B visa."

    "I get calls from the great tech companies and they’re saying we don’t allow people at the top of their class at the best schools in the country, we don’t allow them to stay in our country. So they end up going back to China and Japan and so many other countries all over the world, and we don’t keep them.
    This is an enormous betrayal by Trump, but at this point, who is really surprised. He has proven as president he is perfectly willing to sell out his biggest campaign promises for the opposite position.

    These tech companies are destroying American society - they're bringing in cheap labor from other countries and laying off Americans. They're creating automation that's going to end the middle class and 40% of jobs, and create a permanent socialist state. They are a true enemy of the people.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    Why hire a native when you can hire a Chinaman for half the price?
    Big tech companies like Google, Facebook and Microsoft are looking for the best talent around the world. No one said anything about being half the price.
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    He is MAGA but literally everyone in the political world is a career politician who intend to stay employed beyond the God Emperor's reign. To support Don would be akin to career suicide, it would be nice if he brought in more academics who have nothing to lose politically by supporting him.
    Why do you keep making excuses for Donald Trump?
    digitalchi;1556326171: "imagine him not only getting elected in 2020 but also in 2024 due to some pro trump movement.

    Is there anything in the rules that prevents you from getting elected even though you dont run? I know you technically cant run for a 3rd term"
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    this is a good move.... these are the people you want coming to your country. skilled and filing a need, and will contribute to improving the country
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    tech companies can't hire enough. The only thing that matters in tech is talent. Do you want tech companies to kneecap themselves? Or do you want to force American tech companies to hire ****ty employees and keep the talent overseas? A major tenant of American industry was the brain drain. We were able to scoop up all the talent from around the world.
    Turns out "I'm not against immigration, just illegal immigration/unskilled workers" was not true afterall.

    would help if America wasn't the liberals art major factory of the world.

    Why hire a native when you can hire a Chinaman for half the price? I swear you're one of the worst posters here.

    **** has nothing to do with ability. If that was the case China wouldn't have spies everywhere stealing peoples innovations.
    Your premise is flawed. You are arguing that the Chinese guy, with a third world education, offers a greater value (where the relative wage to his output is greater) and in your second sentence you are arguing the opposite.... You can't have it both ways.
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    The best interest of American citizens in 2019 may not be in line with the best interests of America as a nation in the long term. If giving these immigrants citizenship makes us stronger in the long term (hypothetically), what is the most patriotic way to handle this? Is a country something more than the sum of its citizens? Some fundamental questions to consider.
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    Originally Posted by BootneckBrah View Post
    One point;

    Leftist mantra is rarely that highly skilled immigrant workers be allowed to stay in any given (Western obviously) country.


    Their viewpoint is invariably, any immigrant, regardless of skill set and what they can offer (or extract from) a countries economy, be allowed to stay indefinitely.


    Don’t really see why any sensible conservative would object to highly skilled (therefore also highly paid) workers being allowed to extent their visas or stay indefinitely, as the benefit a countries economy, by way of taxes, and also by bringing their skill sets and experience.
    IT's funny because Scandinavian countries actually have some of the strictest immigration vetting points system before the refugee fiasco.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    conservatives love capitalism until it exceeds the borders of the country and they have to compete with the rest of the world.

    Remember how the right hate affirmative action? Best man for the job right? Well what about the corporations that need the best people to fill their positions? Why settle for a mediocre native when you can have a superhuman Chinaman? These corporations aren't going to survive against others competing around the world, working tireless everyday to wipe them out as competition by settling for mediocre white people just so they can feel special and wanted. That's capitalism... (something the left has been seeking to regulate and is constantly criticized for by the right).

    Republicans suddenly care about capitalism now that changes caused by globalization are undermining their ability to compete and get jobs.



    truth is:

    -trump's a limousine liberal
    -you've all been conned
    -he doesn't like the conflict
    -he's a capitalist and history of getting the cheapest labor at the expense of American workers
    Pretty sure, these fake "conservatives" are going to be end up arguing that capitalism should be contained to the borders of the city they live in.
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    Why do people think that being conservative hinges on capitalism? lol. I also notice that the liberal phaggots who post here are full blown laisse fair now. The Trump effect is very real.

    Fuk capitalism.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    Why do people think that being conservative hinges on capitalism? lol

    Fuk capitalism.
    the right believe in free markets

    what are you a communist now, I think TDS has broken you
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    the right believe in free markets

    what are you a communist now, I think TDS has broken you
    I'd prefer a monarchy or maybe neo-cameralism.

    Pseudo intellects like yourself have little IQ, so you think it's all capitalism vs communism. You have no depth.
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