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    Originally Posted by ILPump View Post
    Fug is a great guy and I’m sorry but I’ve spent to many years in this industry to hold back.
    0 years isn't that long though.

    Congrats on figuring out what we've known since it came out. Now you just look like a jackass for giving reacharounds anytime this was brought up in the past.
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    0 years isn't that long though.

    Congrats on figuring out what we've known since it came out. Now you just look like a jackass for giving reacharounds anytime this was brought up in the past.
    1st: You didn’t know a thing.

    2nd: You rode and continue to ride the popular hotdog in the forum

    3rd: When real tests are done showing false and misleading labels, profiles etc.. I call it out
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    Looking at the science behind peptide bonded bcaas, was the basis of skepticism.

    Now that someone on the outside is calling it out, you are acting like it’s “new” and “groundbreaking”

    It’s like telling Newton about gravity, you are gonna get chastised because what you are saying, has been being said, and you did go against what the board was saying.
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    Looking at the science behind peptide bonded bcaas, was the basis of skepticism.

    Now that someone on the outside is calling it out, you are acting like it’s “new” and “groundbreaking”

    It’s like telling Newton about gravity, you are gonna get chastised because what you are saying, has been being said, and you did go against what the board was saying.
    This is more than “what the board was saying”. There are NO peptides being used period. And on top of that, only 1.25 grams of actual BCAA’s per 10G scoop. Not to mention a Chromadex seal was used and multiple videos by company claiming how important their verification is.

    So now we have to wonder about all the other products ever used with a Chromadex seal from this company or any other.
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    You mean like the Dichem study? Hmm..

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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    You mean like the Dichem study? Hmm..

    https://medium.com/@anthonyroberts/s...l-e6775135f143
    Not sure on the credibility of a study done in South Africa. Especially with the unlimited number of universities and independent labs here in the US.
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    Originally Posted by ILPump View Post
    This is more than “what the board was saying”. There are NO peptides being used period. And on top of that, only 1.25 grams of actual BCAA’s per 10G scoop. Not to mention a Chromadex seal was used and multiple videos by company claiming how important their verification is.

    So now we have to wonder about all the other products ever used with a Chromadex seal from this company or any other.

    Let’s assume this is all true (no peptides or whatever the lawsuit is saying)

    - Fug doesn’t work for BPI anymore....he wasn’t the formulator and really didn’t have much input for new products...like many of the reps here, they are paid to push products and be “yes men”

    - Did Fug know of this? Maybe yes...maybe no... my money is on “no”

    - Calling out Fug is uncalled for

    - I find it odd that this “discovery” is coming from TL/Ron... would assume Mike/Scivation, Patrick Ahhhnold, or That “Boom” Tiger Fitness guy would find out about this first beforehand

    - Hi Tech from my understanding has a strict policy on how they manufacture products...don’t think they would intentionally skim and print out false labels...then again Hi Tech is often in the news for whatever reasons

    - you, ILPump, have been very pro-Best BCAA... “helps me recover.....yadda yadda yadda”.....obviously 1.25g of BCAA did the job for you.... perhaps maybe we all should buy Xtend and just 1/4 scoop it since 5g/7g is overkill and 1.25 is plenty
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    oh lala, that will take so much time and my best guest is BPI will make a right turn at the end just saying.
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    Originally Posted by LoudyRowdy View Post
    Let’s assume this is all true (no peptides or whatever the lawsuit is saying)

    - Fug doesn’t work for BPI anymore....he wasn’t the formulator and really didn’t have much input for new products...like many of the reps here, they are paid to push products and be “yes men”

    - Did Fug know of this? Maybe yes...maybe no... my money is on “no”

    - Calling out Fug is uncalled for

    - I find it odd that this “discovery” is coming from TL/Ron... would assume Mike/Scivation, Patrick Ahhhnold, or That “Boom” Tiger Fitness guy would find out about this first beforehand

    - Hi Tech from my understanding has a strict policy on how they manufacture products...don’t think they would intentionally skim and print out false labels...then again Hi Tech is often in the news for whatever reasons

    - you, ILPump, have been very pro-Best BCAA... “helps me recover.....yadda yadda yadda”.....obviously 1.25g of BCAA did the job for you.... perhaps maybe we all should buy Xtend and just 1/4 scoop it since 5g/7g is overkill and 1.25 is plenty
    Please don’t confuse supplements which have almost zero regulation to other products Hi-Tech manufactures that require stricter guidelines (regulated)

    As for Fug, I’m not calling him out nor holding him responsible. He’s developed some great products in the past and his word was good enough for me.

    PA, Tiger and most of the rest have zero interest but Ron is a different animal. This is another reason why I’ve chosen to step back from this industry.
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    oh lala, that will take so much time and my best guest is BPI will make a right turn at the end just saying.
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    Originally Posted by ILPump View Post
    Especially with the unlimited number of universities and independent labs here in the US.
    Including some of the same that were paid to test the product in question from the OP.

    Maybe the South Africans had it right
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    Originally Posted by ILPump View Post
    1st: You didn’t know a thing.

    2nd: You rode and continue to ride the popular hotdog in the forum

    3rd: When real tests are done showing false and misleading labels, profiles etc.. I call it out
    1st: the oligopeptide chain BCAA amounts have been available from the start

    2nd: you're too stupid to insult

    3rd: see the above
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    BPI products have always been inferior (by design). This doesn't change anything.

    In other news, water is wet.
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    So let me get this straight. The bcaa is underdosed, but proteins get spiked w/aminos lol
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    So let me get this straight. The bcaa is underdosed, but proteins get spiked w/aminos lol
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    1st: You didn’t know a thing.

    2nd: You rode and continue to ride the popular hotdog in the forum

    3rd: When real tests are done showing false and misleading labels, profiles etc.. I call it out
    The dead giveaway was the VP of Sales coming on here saying nobody will see tests related to Chromadex and the only people even asking for it are trolls logging onto their little sister's account (or something along those lines). The suspicion started with putting a badge on tubs for verification but no actual tests associated with the badges. We were told the badge alone was supposed to be enough as if it was a common thing across the industry.
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    The dead giveaway was the VP of Sales coming on here saying nobody will see tests related to Chromadex and the only people even asking for it are trolls logging onto their little sister's account (or something along those lines). The suspicion started with putting a badge on tubs for verification but no actual tests associated with the badges. We were told the badge alone was supposed to be enough as if it was a common thing across the industry.
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    Originally Posted by compan View Post
    The dead giveaway was the VP of Sales coming on here saying nobody will see tests related to Chromadex and the only people even asking for it are trolls logging onto their little sister's account (or something along those lines). The suspicion started with putting a badge on tubs for verification but no actual tests associated with the badges. We were told the badge alone was supposed to be enough as if it was a common thing across the industry.
    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1413166293

    Good times. Also, relevant to this thread is on page 12. Starts at post 345 and progresses through page 13.
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    Originally Posted by compan View Post
    The dead giveaway was the VP of Sales coming on here saying nobody will see tests related to Chromadex and the only people even asking for it are trolls logging onto their little sister's account (or something along those lines). The suspicion started with putting a badge on tubs for verification but no actual tests associated with the badges. We were told the badge alone was supposed to be enough as if it was a common thing across the industry.

    Looking back at it, you might be right. At that time, BPI was making so much money and none of the competitors bothered to test a tub or two themselves
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    Originally Posted by lucia316 View Post
    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1413166293

    Good times. Also, relevant to this thread is on page 12. Starts at post 345 and progresses through page 13.
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    Originally Posted by LoudyRowdy View Post
    Looking back at it, you might be right. At that time, BPI was making so much money and none of the competitors bothered to test a tub or two themselves
    You too were so screwed in that thread. You had zero support from the corporate guys. Just left you jukin.

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    Originally Posted by lucia316 View Post
    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1413166293

    Good times. Also, relevant to this thread is on page 12. Starts at post 345 and progresses through page 13.
    Some things still haven't changed over 3 years. A couple real gems in that thread plus a couple others that were linked in there.
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    Originally Posted by dougefresh93 View Post
    i was in my prime back then... good times.

    Back then I believe your GF was in the hospital or something? Hope she is doing well
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