Rogue LT-1 50 Cal Trolley & Lever Arm

[Mech6]

I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I'm likely going with an RM-6 mainly due to the XL being significantly more due to taxes and shipping. I was waiting until BF to see if Sorinex would do a 10% off again and I'd reconsider but then they put up that lame "no discounts, everybody pays" instagram post (which they subsequently realized was a bad move and removed). I'm not in any huge rush as I have a nice commercial rack I got cheap off CL. Probably going with black with red attachments.

However, I now have both the long 54" Sorinex adjustable arms and the short 35" Rogue 50 Cals (had to pull the trigger on these for $200 even though I already had the Sorinex ones). Once I get the rack I'm planning to use Rogues on the inside of the rack for flat and incline pressing and hopefully later when they release that monolift attachment and the Sorinex on the outside of the rack for more dynamic movements, pulling and potentially Mech's belt squat attachment. The RM-6 also won't have the hitch pin issue you have using Rogue trolleys on a Sorinex rack. The Sorinex attachment points only use one pin that goes through the side of the upright so it will be fine on the Rogue rack.

On a side note, I will say that the Rogue version is much nicer and better than the Sorinex version in my opinion. Knurled stainless steel handles on the trolley, stainless steel weight posts, acetal rollers, uses multiple perpendicular holes to secure it in place, better handles, etc. And they're cheaper due to shipping and taxes. The only thing the Sorinex ones have going for them are custom colors although I'm hearing the clear grind isn't free anymore but maybe that's just for racks? Not sure. I got them with red attachment points and clear grind arms over the summer and there was no upcharge.

I think you are short changing the sorinex ones. No one has mentionned the cam lever at the back which is basically like a vise against the front/back of the upright. SHould be completely immobile if set right. I think it's the best feature on all models.

[Mech6]

Does the pop pin look like it could be modified to make it work right with your rack?

Pop pin works since it goes through rear hole. Issue is side holes. Sorinex racks do not have a 1" offset between front/rear and side holes. Rogue racks do.

[rpark]

I’ll be home tomorrow night and try to post some pics of the pop pin assembly. It’s a 1” pin that appears to be solid at first glance.... but I didn’t really drool over it enough to vouch for the construction.

[irongrandpa]

Somebody in Pittsburgh already has his trolley and lever arms for sale. Says he didn’t find much use for them. He did say he got them for the $200 deal but has them listed at $595.

[MGM711]

Somebody in Pittsburgh already has his trolley and lever arms for sale. Says he didn’t find much use for them. He did say he got them for the $200 deal but has them listed at $595.

I've seen 5 or more for sale this past week, all said the same thing, got them for the deal and just didn't find them useful enough.

[aloosecannon]

Somebody in Pittsburgh already has his trolley and lever arms for sale. Says he didn’t find much use for them. He did say he got them for the $200 deal but has them listed at $595.

I've seen 5 or more for sale this past week, all said the same thing, got them for the deal and just didn't find them useful enough.

Giving up on them pretty quick, didn't these just start shipping in the last couple of weeks?

[gym62richard]

I've seen 5 or more for sale this past week, all said the same thing, got them for the deal and just didn't find them useful enough.

Useful or not, I bet they are all looking to sell for a substantial profit.

[MGM711]

Useful or not, I bet they are all looking to sell for a substantial profit.

I'd say that's certainly part of it. But I also think that there's a component that they aren't quite living up to expectations either as far as versatility.

[SomeIronBoy]

Somebody in Pittsburgh already has his trolley and lever arms for sale. Says he didn’t find much use for them. He did say he got them for the $200 deal but has them listed at $595.

One in my area, the person had listed them for 900. Said he paid 1100, but didnt need them, the day after the sale was done.......Lol

[Mech6]

Everyone should keep one for belt squats and sell the other. Pays for itself

[MGM711]

Everyone should keep one for belt squats and sell the other. Pays for itself

How long does the lever arm need to be to do belt squats? Would the shorter arms work? Just wondering, not interested in one over the other.

[mrcheeze36]

How long does the lever arm need to be to do belt squats? Would the shorter arms work? Just wondering, not interested in one over the other.

Mech’s will work with both. It’ll extend the shorter arm.

[Mech6]

How long does the lever arm need to be to do belt squats? Would the shorter arms work? Just wondering, not interested in one over the other.

Mech’s will work with both. It’ll extend the shorter arm.

Yes, this. Anything over 35". I'll take some photos of testing when I make first one.

[gym62richard]

I'd say that's certainly part of it. But I also think that there's a component that they aren't quite living up to expectations either as far as versatility.

I'd agree with that, expectations were pretty high, at first glance it looks like a great concept, no doubt for some movements it works well, but as with most rack accessories there's a trade off, set up time, functionality and versatility of the accessory, versus the convenience of working in an unencumbered rack,

[heckofagator]

interesting discussions here....

My Monster short-arm set is setting in the house still all packed up. I'm guessing the wife is going to ask me to move it out to the garage soon. I don't even have a rack that will accommodate it at this time.

I am curious for those to got the shorter arms and what you think about the range of motion of some of the movements. I agonized about the long and short for a month and finally changed my order to the short arms.

That being said, I was planning a purchase of a rack around this purchase, but I'm starting to seriously doubt that's a good idea.

[rpark]

I think those people that are trying to sell their $200 product for more than they paid are pretty damn shady. They knew they got a deal from rogue and prices were going up to $1,000, bunch of damn crooks. I’ll add.... that if I were to ever try to unload it (long time from now), I wouldn’t be jacking the price up.

[irongrandpa]

I think those people that are trying to sell their $200 product for more than they paid are pretty damn shady. They knew they got a deal from rogue and prices were going up to $1,000, bunch of damn crooks. I’ll add.... that if I were to ever try to unload it (long time from now), I wouldn’t be jacking the price up.

They're popping up quite abit now saw a couple in the $500 + range and today saw one listed as "new in box" $895.

[trnk1001]

They were all over the place here in CA. The lowest I have seen was $500, but most were between $700-$900. I think many people who got them for $200 never intend to keep them to begin with, but there is nothing anyone can do. I still have mine in the garage while waiting for the house renovation.

[thejosef]

I think those people that are trying to sell their $200 product for more than they paid are pretty damn shady. They knew they got a deal from rogue and prices were going up to $1,000, bunch of damn crooks. I’ll add.... that if I were to ever try to unload it (long time from now), I wouldn’t be jacking the price up.

I hear ya. I mean, if they're selling for $750+, that's pretty lame, but I could understand selling them in the $400-550 range (where they Should be priced new, IMO). Buyer is still getting a pretty solid deal over new, regardless of insane $200 sale price. I don't own any, by the way, nor am I interested in them. I just don't have the space and don't see any really need to have them..

[vhd16]

I get to play with the jammer arms for couple of days now.

Initial impressions.

Overhead press

The pivot pin is not smooth but that is good and bad. Good is you can let the handles let go after pressing and the arms won't slam into the upright.

Bad is need to lift little bit harder to get into position for pressing.

Plus the arms hit the joist during the overhead pressing with arms fully stretched as there is not enough ceiling height. My ceiling is little bit over 90" like 92" may be.

BB overhead pressing no issues.

Also tried use them for leg press just using bands ( 100lb each) . This is one of the main reasons i got the jammer arms.
I have old Sorinex utility seat when their racks were 48" wide . so the utility seat is 49" wide .

There is little play on utility seat i could feel the tension.

[vhd16]

I think you are short changing the sorinex ones. No one has mentionned the cam lever at the back which is basically like a vise against the front/back of the upright. SHould be completely immobile if set right. I think it's the best feature on all models.

It would be nice to see side by side pics of the both the attachemnt/trolleys and arms . May be when fatal11 has time he will post them .

[SomeIronBoy]

Everyone selling their Trolley arms from as far as Cali and here I am in Michigan with not even a processing step indicated.........

[thejosef]

Everyone selling their Trolley arms from as far as Cali and here I am in Michigan with not even a processing step indicated.........

Well maybe you'll get a nice Trolley Arm V2.0, at least. Seriously though, they might be taking feedback and making small improvements as they learn from actual users...

[Mech6]

It would be nice to see side by side pics of the both the attachemnt/trolleys and arms . May be when fatal11 has time he will post them .

From website.

[vhd16]

From website.

How does the arm gets installed into the attachment on Sorinex ones? Does the pivot pin slides into the top hole of the arm and is held by set screw just like their landmine?

[Mech6]

How does the arm gets installed into the attachment on Sorinex ones? Does the pivot pin slides into the top hole of the arm and is held by set screw just like their landmine?

No, you can see split shaft collars on the side of the front pin. Much better than set screw collars.

[SomeIronBoy]

So I finally got my Lever Arms Randomly Today. I don't know if I'm the first to post these in the ML Version, but overall I'm happy. Kinda disappointed the handles on the Trolley itself isn't the Knurled Stainless Steel, but can't complain too much at what I got them for. Also has a regular Pop-pin knob handle, but it's not a problem with me. One question, the one piece of metal that gets shipped with the trollies gets hammered into the cut out spots, to keep the front bushing from moving much correct?

[mrcheeze36]

One question, the one piece of metal that gets shipped with the trollies gets hammered into the cut out spots, to keep the front bushing from moving much correct?

Are you talking about the flat plate that goes in front of the front rollers? I have the Monster version and I just angled it slightly to get it in, straightened it up flat/parallel to the post, then it slides in/locks in on the squarish cutouts in the slots

[Greybird2]

From website.

Overbuilt giant vise. I see why you like that one.

[sonodoc]

Anybody know how to fix this

One trolley works fine!!!

The other trolley not working. The rear pin is not engaging or snapping into the hole the upright. I have to move it and then push really really hard for the pin to go in. The other one snaps right in as I move up and down trolley