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    Ridiculous Gains in Deadlift

    So I've been searching around for some way to judge my progress against other beginners to see if I'm on the right track and something has become alarmingly apparent to me that I have no explanation for. So I used to do upper body a lot in college (almost never did lower body) so I expected my bench to go up pretty quickly once I got back into it (thank God for muscle memory), but my squat and deadlift have gone up significantly faster than I would expect considering I rarely squatted in college and I never deadlifted until August of this year (granted I've always been pretty active). See stats below:

    Aug 4th 2018 stats:
    Weight - 143lb ~ 13% BF
    Bench - 185x1
    Squat - 170x7
    Deadlift - 230x1

    Current stats:
    Weight 158lb ~ 16% BF
    Bench - 250x1
    Squat - 280x1
    Deadlift - 385x1

    I was running a 5x5 program with some extra accessory work added in. Does this seem like pretty normal gains in 4 months time? Looking at some strength standards and reading a few articles it seems a little odd to go from novice level strength to advanced in only 4 months. Just curious if others have seen similar gains.

    PS. I watched a ton of videos and did have several experienced lifters at my gym coach me on squats and deadlifts for fear of injuring myself, and I started slowly with just the bar. I did NOT just jump into heavy weights right off the bat.
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    Originally Posted by brant89 View Post
    So I've been searching around for some way to judge my progress against other beginners to see if I'm on the right track and something has become alarmingly apparent to me that I have no explanation for. So I used to do upper body a lot in college (almost never did lower body) so I expected my bench to go up pretty quickly once I got back into it (thank God for muscle memory), but my squat and deadlift have gone up significantly faster than I would expect considering I rarely squatted in college and I never deadlifted until August of this year (granted I've always been pretty active). See stats below:

    Aug 4th 2018 stats:
    Weight - 143lb ~ 13% BF
    Bench - 185x1
    Squat - 170x7
    Deadlift - 230x1

    Current stats:
    Weight 158lb ~ 16% BF
    Bench - 250x1
    Squat - 280x1
    Deadlift - 385x1

    I was running a 5x5 program with some extra accessory work added in. Does this seem like pretty normal gains in 4 months time? Looking at some strength standards and reading a few articles it seems a little odd to go from novice level strength to advanced in only 4 months. Just curious if others have seen similar gains.

    PS. I watched a ton of videos and did have several experienced lifters at my gym coach me on squats and deadlifts for fear of injuring myself, and I started slowly with just the bar. I did NOT just jump into heavy weights right off the bat.
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    Done very well so far mate. Keep up the consistency
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Congrats YOU
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    and nobody else but YOU
    I’m not sure what any of that is supposed to mean. Thanks I guess? Or sorry for wanting to see where I stand against others with similar goals and training experience...
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    Done very well so far mate. Keep up the consistency
    Thank you. Obviously I won’t be able to keep gaining at that pace but I was wondering if others saw similar results when they first started deadlifting.
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    I think many trainees can get up to 315 pretty quickly. I feel like a 315 pull is kinda like a 185 bench. Great gains though keep it up!
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    Originally Posted by brant89 View Post
    I’m not sure what any of that is supposed to mean. Thanks I guess? Or sorry for wanting to see where I stand against others with similar goals and training experience...
    You shouldn’t compare yourself to others big guy. Who cares
    You’re a strong dude
    Keep getting stronger

    Good job

    Like literally someone could be your same height age and weight deadlifting 200 lbs more than you or less
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    Originally Posted by brant89 View Post
    So I've been searching around for some way to judge my progress against other beginners to see if I'm on the right track and something has become alarmingly apparent to me that I have no explanation for. So I used to do upper body a lot in college (almost never did lower body) so I expected my bench to go up pretty quickly once I got back into it (thank God for muscle memory), but my squat and deadlift have gone up significantly faster than I would expect considering I rarely squatted in college and I never deadlifted until August of this year (granted I've always been pretty active). See stats below:

    Aug 4th 2018 stats:
    Weight - 143lb ~ 13% BF
    Bench - 185x1
    Squat - 170x7
    Deadlift - 230x1

    Current stats:
    Weight 158lb ~ 16% BF
    Bench - 250x1
    Squat - 280x1
    Deadlift - 385x1

    I was running a 5x5 program with some extra accessory work added in. Does this seem like pretty normal gains in 4 months time? Looking at some strength standards and reading a few articles it seems a little odd to go from novice level strength to advanced in only 4 months. Just curious if others have seen similar gains.

    PS. I watched a ton of videos and did have several experienced lifters at my gym coach me on squats and deadlifts for fear of injuring myself, and I started slowly with just the bar. I did NOT just jump into heavy weights right off the bat.
    awesome job! but without videos of your squat, dead, etc, its hard to say if others have progressed that fast! not that i would take anything away from your progress,and i think its great, but normally when we hear on here, that you have reputable "experienced lifters" watching over you, usually its incorrect!! and if you are progressing that fast, why change to intermediate program, when you are still progressing as a novice? Numbers mean nothing as a novice! its about being able to recover from session to session! im DEF rooting for you though! i REALLY hope you can show us a nice squat and a dead at those weights! cuz that would be impressive in 4 months
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    I might be able to give you some strength standard to compare to. i'm about 5'8" and 155lbs, so similar weight, and I used to lift a while ago, but was inconsistent for quite some time, but I've also been lifting since about August. I also never placed emphasis on squats back in the day. I don't know my 1 rep maxes, but these were the latest sets i've done.

    Weight: 155lbs
    Bench: 200, 5 set of 5 reps
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    Deadlift: 315, 2 reps (double overhand grip, no wraps/belt)

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    Originally Posted by brant89 View Post
    I’m not sure what any of that is supposed to mean. Thanks I guess? Or sorry for wanting to see where I stand against others with similar goals and training experience...
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    Originally Posted by s2grand View Post
    I might be able to give you some strength standard to compare to. i'm about 5'8" and 155lbs, so similar weight, and I used to lift a while ago, but was inconsistent for quite some time, but I've also been lifting since about August. I also never placed emphasis on squats back in the day. I don't know my 1 rep maxes, but these were the latest sets i've done.

    Weight: 155lbs
    Bench: 200, 5 set of 5 reps
    Squat: 225, 3-5 reps
    Deadlift: 315, 2 reps (double overhand grip, no wraps/belt)

    Your lifts are great bro....keep it up!
    Nearly identical height, weight, age, and lifts. Weird. Props on double overhand @ 315. I had to switch to mixed grip around 275. I don't own a belt or straps.

    dski79, I don't have any videos of me doing any of my max lifts. The only videos I have are me pulling 225 when I was somewhat new to the lift and me pulling 305 a month or so ago. I'll gladly post the 305 pull if you want to critique it.
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    Originally Posted by GeneralSerpant View Post
    Best to take anyone aged 48 says with a grain of salt.
    What is the significance of “Age: 48”. His profile says he’s 16. Now that I look at it it says my age is 48 even though I updated it to 29. What gives?
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    Originally Posted by brant89 View Post
    Nearly identical height, weight, age, and lifts. Weird. Props on double overhand @ 315. I had to switch to mixed grip around 275. I don't own a belt or straps.

    dski79, I don't have any videos of me doing any of my max lifts. The only videos I have are me pulling 225 when I was somewhat new to the lift and me pulling 305 a month or so ago. I'll gladly post the 305 pull if you want to critique it.
    Yea that is weird...haha. I had some bad biceps tendinitis that I attribute to using a mixed grip and pulling heavy on deads. Well at least that's what I believe caused it. So I'm going to see how far I can go with the double overhand. Putting in a lot of work on grip strength. Fat Gripz have been a godsend.
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    Originally Posted by brant89 View Post
    Nearly identical height, weight, age, and lifts. Weird. Props on double overhand @ 315. I had to switch to mixed grip around 275. I don't own a belt or straps.

    dski79, I don't have any videos of me doing any of my max lifts. The only videos I have are me pulling 225 when I was somewhat new to the lift and me pulling 305 a month or so ago. I'll gladly post the 305 pull if you want to critique it.
    nope! no need to! 100% believe you! just by you saying you will gladly post the vid is enough for me lol! most wont offer to but you did! so congrats man and what an awesome job!! thats incredible!!!
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    Originally Posted by s2grand View Post
    Yea that is weird...haha. I had some bad biceps tendinitis that I attribute to using a mixed grip and pulling heavy on deads. Well at least that's what I believe caused it. So I'm going to see how far I can go with the double overhand. Putting in a lot of work on grip strength. Fat Gripz have been a godsend.
    Yea, it sucks when lifts don’t agree with your basic anatomy. I get terrible tendinitis in my wrists doing any kind of bar curls (including EZ bar) so I just stick with dumbbells and compound pulls.

    Also, I tried several times yesterday to post that video yesterday and had nothing but issues. Lol.
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    wow I swear we have had pretty much the same numbers on deadlift in the same amount of time. I guess it must be pretty common.

    I would post a link to my deadlift progress chart but I can't until I make more posts :/
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