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    No one has ever defeated me in a wrestling debate.

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    wwe is not worth watching. go ahead
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    What about wrestling is there to debate?
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    This is the same motherfooker that got me banned for 2 months because I told him his thrads suck and that he is a giant moron and gay.
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    It may have been 3 months, cant remember.
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    Originally Posted by EidFnatic View Post
    This is the same motherfooker that got me banned for 2 months because I told him his thrads suck and that he is a giant moron and gay.
    I'll hit him with a leg drop for ya lykle brother.
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    Originally Posted by TimDF View Post
    I'll hit him with a leg drop for ya lykle brother.
    Thanks but please tek what you said back, he will snitch to the MODs
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    Maybe not, but let's break out the Yu Gi Oh cards and Ill lay the smack down.
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    came in expecting red. leaving satisfied.
    Came in this thread expecting the same...and the above lol

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    wwe is not worth watching. go ahead
    That really depends on what your motivation is for watching? Are you expecting a return to the attitude era? If so you're absolutely correct WWE is NOT worth watching. If you're accepting that the entire industry has now changed and Vince's new marketing on a broader level to bring in more $$ in the end, it's GREAT!
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    Originally Posted by superiorlogic View Post
    What about wrestling is there to debate?
    Like who was the better wrestler and why. Between Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin for example.

    OP I don't remember if you been bested or not, but I'm down for a wrestling debate anytime. I know everything wrestling.
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    Originally Posted by EidFnatic View Post
    Thanks but please tek what you said back, he will snitch to the MODs
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    Like who was the better wrestler and why. Between Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin for example.

    OP I don't remember if you been bested or not, but I'm down for a wrestling debate anytime. I know everything wrestling.
    I've never been bested. This is a good debate. From a pure wrestling standpoint STRICTLY wrestling I think has to be SCSA. Hogan was larger than life and in a great time for his look and his everything. He was wrestling's Michael Jackson of the 80's if you will... but are we calling him a great entertainer or a great WRESTLER? The big boot leading into a leg drop as a finisher is arguably *the* weakest finisher ever from an all time great anyway. But was soooo over. His hulking up his EVERYTHING was just larger than life. GREAT entertainer.... great wrestler? Not so much. Austin hands down bro.
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    Who is the best pure wrestler with good technique, Chris Benoit or Kurt Angle.
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    Who is the best pure wrestler with good technique, Chris Benoit or Kurt Angle.
    pure technique as a wrestler Angle. Benoit would not have won an Olympic gold
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    Originally Posted by wrestled View Post
    That really depends on what your motivation is for watching? Are you expecting a return to the attitude era? If so you're absolutely correct WWE is NOT worth watching. If you're accepting that the entire industry has now changed and Vince's new marketing on a broader level to bring in more $$ in the end, it's GREAT!
    The problem is the product isn't for the fans anymore it's for the sponsors which I think is why a lot of people are turned off by it .
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    Originally Posted by wrestled View Post
    I've never been bested. This is a good debate. From a pure wrestling standpoint STRICTLY wrestling I think has to be SCSA. Hogan was larger than life and in a great time for his look and his everything. He was wrestling's Michael Jackson of the 80's if you will... but are we calling him a great entertainer or a great WRESTLER? The big boot leading into a leg drop as a finisher is arguably *the* weakest finisher ever from an all time great anyway. But was soooo over. His hulking up his EVERYTHING was just larger than life. GREAT entertainer.... great wrestler? Not so much. Austin hands down bro.
    You're right that Austin is better but only because Austin was tremendous. His matches with Bret proves this.

    However you are betraying a lack of knowledge by portraying Hogan as a bad wrestler who was only about entertainment....and bringing his finisher into it? That's a mark thing to say.

    Hogan worked that way in The States from '83 onwards when he went from AWA to WWF because that was his job. If you don't think he had the ability to work differently then you are not familiar with his work in New Japan for 5 years. Further, part of what makes a good wrestler is their ability to bring the energy levels up (if that is your role which, in Hogan's case, it clearly was) along with other factors such as what it's like to be in the ring with him. Name me some wrestlers he has injured. You can't.

    So, yes, Austin is the better wrestler but I'm surprised about your appraisal of Hogan as a wrestler.

    How about this for a debate question: Bret or Flair and why?
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    Originally Posted by Mike86er View Post
    You're right that Austin is better...
    How about this for a debate question: Bret or Flair and why?
    Firstly, thank you... and secondly...

    Bret was the better wrestler overall, but Flair the better showman and entertainer. I don't think there's any debate of the latter, but the former is a good debate. Flair wrestled in a time where he could get away with being a little sloppier and no one call him out on it. Flair also BUSTED HIS ASS and partied his ass of to boot. I don't think Bret could have done what Flair did in his time. The iron man matches working through the pain night after night after night. Bret is very technical sound and trained well, but his career so much shorter as well. How much weight are we giving to longevity here? If you take Bret in his prime, Flair in his prime, and let them have a dream match, from a purely WRESTLING standpoint its Bret.

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    Because mods are deleting responses you complain about.

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    Because mods are deleting responses you complain about.

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    Originally Posted by wrestled View Post
    Firstly, thank you... and secondly...

    Bret was the better wrestler overall, but Flair the better showman and entertainer. I don't think there's any debate of the latter, but the former is a good debate. Flair wrestled in a time where he could get away with being a little sloppier and no one call him out on it. Flair also BUSTED HIS ASS and partied his ass of to boot. I don't think Bret could have done what Flair did in his time. The iron man matches working through the pain night after night after night. Bret is very technical sound and trained well, but his career so much shorter as well. How much weight are we giving to longevity here? If you take Bret in his prime, Flair in his prime, and let them have a dream match, from a purely WRESTLING standpoint its Bret.

    Next debate please.
    This isn't a purely wrestling standpoint; debating anyone in pro wrestling on just that is silly, it's all a work so who was better would depend on who was a better shooter and tougher SOB.

    From a pro wrestling stand point Flair is head and shoulders above Bret as an overall pro wrestler; longevity, feuds, championships, promos, ring skills - I would only give Bret this one but that could be different had Ric not partied so hard. And yet despite that he still managed to tear it down for an hour easily all over the world defending the world title.

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    Originally Posted by SquirtlePower View Post
    This isn't a purely wrestling standpoint; debating anyone in pro wrestling on just that is silly, it's all a work so who was better would depend on who was a better shooter and tougher SOB.

    From a pro wrestling stand point Flair is head and shoulders above Bret as an overall pro wrestler; longevity, feuds, championships, promos, ring skills - I would only give Bret this one but that could be different had Ric not partied so hard. And yet despite that he still managed to tear it down for an hour easily all over the world defending the world title.

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    If there ever was a wrestling gimmick based on Middle-earth, which race should it be based on? I like the idea of a dwarf. Or an orc like creature played by a Brock like athlete.

    Anyway, my favorite has always been the dwarves.

    What are your top 5 wrestlers OP?

    Also, should Butterbean finally be inducted into the HOF next year in the celebrity wing?
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    That really depends on what your motivation is for watching? Are you expecting a return to the attitude era? If so you're absolutely correct WWE is NOT worth watching. If you're accepting that the entire industry has now changed and Vince's new marketing on a broader level to bring in more $$ in the end, it's GREAT!
    so its good if **** is your new paradigm in other words and sure i agree with you
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    Originally Posted by Deathstroke View Post
    If there ever was a wrestling gimmick based on Middle-earth, which race should it be based on? I like the idea of a dwarf. Or an orc like creature played by a Brock like athlete.

    Anyway, my favorite has always been the dwarves.

    What are your top 5 wrestlers OP?

    Also, should Butterbean finally be inducted into the HOF next year in the celebrity wing?
    Dwarves are humans but just didn't grow, so I would have to go with the orc as that is a mythological creature.

    As for top 5, this one can be debated to no end due to so many that could be there. You get 5 and well you left out this one person, you get to 6 and so on, almost like the current NCAA football playoff system. Was 2, then we needed 4, now it's 'well we have to have 8' but I'll bite here and I think my list will stand the test against anyones: (in no particular order)

    Samartino
    Hogan
    SCSA
    Rock
    Cena

    Yes I left off Andre, I left off Flair, Gorgeous George, Backlund, Hart, HBK, I left off many all time greats, but I'll explain my reasoning on each.

    Samartino was the main guy who brought it into the modern day. Larger than life and an old school classic and pushed by the current organization that was the 'winner' ... 'to the victors go the spoils'. When wrestling is remembered Samartino will be rememberred.

    Hogan took wrestling to Michael Jackson levels in the 80's. The cartoons the Rock n Wrestling connection on and on. Flair was great during this time, but nowhere near the marketing Hogan got.

    SCSA was a 90's version of Hogan and took WWE even higher

    Rock had the look, still has it, and transferred succesfully better than ANYONE to main stream movie superstardom. The man can wrestle, he has the look, and most importantly in a sport dominated by marketing he has THAT!

    Finally I go to Cena. This is the guy the torch was passed to who probably worked harder than ANYONE as an ambassador of the sport. He can still wrestle his ass off, he is Vince's right hand man, he has wrestled Hogan to the Rock to Roman Reigns and all of the above and is STILL a draw.

    This list can be argued, but I chose my list somewhat off history, and then a large part had to do simply with following the $$. Without it, we wouldn't have wrestling on our televisions, have our t shirts our dvd's our action figures NONE OF IT! Hogan, Rock, SCSA, Cena ALL arguably brought in more $$ to professional wrestling than anyone in history.
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