why are some people so against raising the minimum wage?

[JewishSuperHero]

“if you raise the minimum wage then the price of everything else will go up!”

costs of living have been increasing anyway. it’s been that way since forever. but wages have largely stagnated since the early 80s. why would anyone want it to stay that way?

[Better Unborn]

because it does nothing except redistribute wealth from middle class to lower class

[bobbydigitaloa]

Well, companies aren’t going to accept less money in their pockets so they $5 value meal becomes $12.

[phikappa]

In on mental retard thread.

[JewishSuperHero]

because it does nothing except redistribute wealth from top 0.1% to lower class

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[JewishSuperHero]

Well, companies aren’t going to accept less money in their pockets so they $5 value meal becomes $12.

by the rate things are going they’ll probably be $12 in five years anyway. in 2009 mcdonalds had the $1 menu. you could buy burgers or chicken sandwiches or whatever. now they only have the “value menu” and only thing for $1 on there are cookies.

but minimum wage has stayed the same.

[8pilot8]

Honestly if you get paid minimum wage your life was a failure anyway, the actual amount doesn't matter.

[guest89]

Because it will negatively affect small businesses. The majority of small businesses fail. The remaining ones have a hard enough time competing against major corporations. A lot of small business owners are working 60+hrs per week to barely turn a profit. Increasing minimum wage would mean they are forced to pay lowly/unskilled employees more money.





Skilled laborers are already making well above the minimum wage. If you bring something to the table of value, you are compensated for it.

[peterplsss]

Because a combination of people being fired due to higher operation costs, so people go from making minimum wage to making $0, and the rise in price of products/cost of living. The people who think raising the minimum wage is a good idea, will mostly be destroyed and jobless by the former, the middle class will be destroyed by the latter.

[eod8989]

Anyone working should be making more than $8 an hour these days imo. Just ridiculous for people to actually be employed making $900 a month you can't live on that

Like i care if i have to spend another $30 a month on things lol

[Better Unborn]

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uhh no

top 0.1% literally wipes their asses with your 401k's, they are not gonna care in 20k drop in their income

middle class is gonna feel dat 20k drop (unless min wage also will automatically raise everyone else's income proportionally)

[JewishSuperHero]

Because a combination of people being fired due to higher operation costs, so people go from making minimum wage to making $0, and the rise in price of products/cost of living. The people who think raising the minimum wage is a good idea, will mostly be destroyed and jobless by the former, the middle class will be destroyed by the latter.

how many people became unemployed the last time the minimum wage was raised? surely there are some statistics out there.

[bobbydigitaloa]

by the rate things are going they’ll probably be $12 in five years anyway. in 2009 mcdonalds had the $1 menu. you could buy burgers or chicken sandwiches or whatever. now they only have the “value menu” and only thing for $1 on there are cookies.

but minimum wage has stayed the same.

Ok, forget the value meal. Everything becomes more expensive and that person that makes minimum wage ends up in the same place.

By the way...minimum wage jobs are for high school kids. And no one that’s working those jobs are forced to do so. Learn a skill and get a better job...

[DonVonDuck]

Many large companies have set their starting wage well above the national minimum wage anyway. Increasing the national minimum wage will hurt smaller businesses more than anything else.

[JewishSuperHero]

Ok, forget the value meal. Everything becomes more expensive and that person that makes minimum wage ends up in the same place.

By the way...minimum wage jobs are for high school kids.

then we raise the minimum wage again.

my point is that things are becoming more expensive regardless. but wages are not increasing. it goes beyond minimum wage. i make $78k as an engineer right now. my friend’s dad was making the same amount when he was my age as an engineer in 1983. yet he bought his first house for $70k and his college tuition was like $15 per credit hour.

[phikappa]

how many people became unemployed the last time the minimum wage was raised? surely there are some statistics out there.

brb, counting people who weren't hired because a business stopped looking because it couldn't afford to pay the min wage to anyone else.


This is like counting the number of sets I didn't do because I was tired.

[bobbydigitaloa]

then we raise the minimum wage again.

my point is that things are becoming more expensive regardless. but wages are not increasing. it goes beyond minimum wage. i make $78k as an engineer right now. my friend’s dad was making the same amount when he was my age as an engineer in 1983. yet he bought his first house for $70k and his college tuition was like $15 per credit hour.

Cool story...

[JewishSuperHero]

Cool story...

so you’re happy that everything is getting more expensive yet our wages aren’t increasing.....?

[MichelleLnne]

Some small businesses can literally not afford it. Taxes should be lowered and then maybe raise minimum wage

[BrainChild]

it hurts businesses and minimum wage workers. imagine you own a bar that is just making it in the green...profit wise. Now the minimum wage goes up and you gotta dish out thousands more every 2 weeks for your 15 employees. now that the wages have gone up.....your profits go way down. Sometimes low enough to the point where the owner is in the red each month.

Now, what do you do? as an owner you cannot accept being in the red every month. you gotta let go 5 workers. Now 5 people have less jobs. you think these 5 people are happy the minimum wages went up.

this will happen with many companies. lots of jobs will be lost. even like a large casino that has 500 employees will not accept a profit loss. they will just cut people.

how about these minimum wage workers get a better job. minimum wage is for young people. let them make the minimum and upgrade their skills to get better jobs.

[peterplsss]

then we raise the minimum wage again.

my point is that things are becoming more expensive regardless. but wages are not increasing. it goes beyond minimum wage. i make $78k as an engineer right now. my friend’s dad was making the same amount when he was my age as an engineer in 1983. yet he bought his first house for $70k and his college tuition was like $15 per credit hour.

Then the cost of living goes up more, so then they raise the poverty line, then the amount paid out for welfare and social security has to increase, and more people are on it, then the government needs more money, then we are literally printing more money to accommodate this, then the value of the dollar drops, then we become economically weak in the world because our currency is worth so little.

You can't just fuking make money appear from nowhere brah.

[maddog352002]

then we raise the minimum wage again.

my point is that things are becoming more expensive regardless. but wages are not increasing. it goes beyond minimum wage. i make $78k as an engineer right now. my friend’s dad was making the same amount when he was my age as an engineer in 1983. yet he bought his first house for $70k and his college tuition was like $15 per credit hour.

You're friends dad is a liar. They started at15k a year. Go fuk your ******* ass. I hate millennials. You haven't even started yet, but it's unfair.

[mikieson]

By the way...minimum wage jobs are for high school kids. And no one that’s working those jobs are forced to do so. Learn a skill and get a better job...

not that i dont agree..but what about people that live in communities that dont have better jobs and everyone pretty much works in food,walmart,grocery stores,etc? My town has about 3 decent factories other than manual labor and those other places i mentioned before. Do you just move? And if so with what money? Do you go to school? IF so its not always easy for some to do so and lets face it, MANY people are not worth a s&* in school "like myself"..SO my feelings are this, Your community should price things according to the average household income. Rent,food,power,gas,medical,etc should all be affordable to where you live and the jobs provided...Just my opinion..

[bobbydigitaloa]

so you’re happy that everything is getting more expensive yet our wages aren’t increasing.....?

It doesn’t affect me. I made money at my old job and wanted more so I got a new job and I make more than that and it’s only increasing.

Don’t like you’re situation, change it...amazing how that works huh? Feel free to apply that to almost anything.

[SkinnyKappa]

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You aren’t taking into account small businesses, which overwhelmingly pay minimum wage.

[BrainChild]

so you’re happy that everything is getting more expensive yet our wages aren’t increasing.....?

i was selling sunglasses at a mall kiosk making minimum many years ago. I went to school and upgraded myself. I got a better job that pays more.

how about you not count on the government to get you a better pay. do it yourself

[JewishSuperHero]

brb, counting people who weren't hired because a business stopped looking because it couldn't afford to pay the min wage to anyone else.


This is like counting the number of sets I didn't do because I was tired.

i mean.... it’s been the number 1 talking point against increasing wages for over 100 years. you’d think someone would have studied it to prove it’s reality.

[DonVonDuck]

JewishSuperHero, maybe we should just print more money and make everyone rich? Hows that sound, little skipper?

[nothingshocking]

In on mental retard thread.

me too!

[JonEh10]

Because it’s pointless...
I used to work in McDonald’s while in high school. Everybody was so happy that we were getting bumped from $8/hr to $10/hr. Guess what happened next? Our hours got cut so our paycheck ended up being around the same anyways.

The point is employers will do whatever it takes to not lose money if they have to pay their workers more.


This is the result.



If you want more money learn a new skill and get a better job.