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    Democrats Took Control Of The House. Here's Why That Might Be Great News For Trump.

    The Blue Wave never came. Democrats gained 28 seats in the House, less than half of what Republicans gained in the 2010 midterms, and lost ground in the Senate. Moreover, three of their up-and-coming stars — Beto O'Rourke in Texas, Andrew Gillum in Florida, Stacey Abrams in Georgia — lost in spite of millions of dollars and much media hype.

    Yet they do have the House. This, I think, will certainly be bad for the country. It means two years of gridlock and dysfunction, even worse than the gridlock and dysfunction that already plagued our government. But it's very possible that last night's results will prove greatly advantageous to President Trump. He may well have earned re-election in 2020 by losing the House in 2018.

    The Democrats have made their plans very clear. The will spend the next two years launching investigations and wielding their subpoena power in a blatant attempt to settle political vendettas. Apparently the first item on their list is Trump's tax returns. The ultimate goal for them is impeachment, and I have no doubt that they will move toward that goal as swiftly as possible.

    They will not be able to help themselves. They will not be able to focus on anything other than the dismantling of Trump's agenda and the personal destruction of Trump himself. That is the one thing they are interested in doing and the one thing their base demands they do. This can lead to one of two results:

    1) They dig up something truly ruinous for the Trump administration and ultimately succeed in bringing him down.

    2) They spend two years engaged in one witch hunt after another and never find anything especially damning. At best they embarrass Trump by revealing that he isn't as rich as he claimed (a fact that has already been pretty well established), and they make other anti-climactic breakthroughs in that same vein.

    I can't say for sure which of these options will pan out, but the smart money has to be on the latter. And if that is how it ends up, the voters will almost certainly make the Grand Inquisitors pay a steep price in 2020. The Democrats already paid a steep price, and probably squandered their chances of taking the Senate, when they went all-in on the Kavanaugh smear campaign and came up empty. Their campaign against Trump will be ten times more intense and last for two years rather than two weeks.

    If their anti-Trump crusade proves as fruitless as the anti-Kavanaugh crusade, it is hard to imagine just how thoroughly exhausted and sickened the electorate will feel 24 months from now. Trump won't even have to campaign at all. Nancy Pelosi will see to his re-election herself.
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    Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
    The Blue Wave never came. Democrats gained 28 seats in the House, less than half of what Republicans gained in the 2010 midterms, and lost ground in the Senate. Moreover, three of their up-and-coming stars — Beto O'Rourke in Texas, Andrew Gillum in Florida, Stacey Abrams in Georgia — lost in spite of millions of dollars and much media hype.

    Yet they do have the House. This, I think, will certainly be bad for the country. It means two years of gridlock and dysfunction, even worse than the gridlock and dysfunction that already plagued our government. But it's very possible that last night's results will prove greatly advantageous to President Trump. He may well have earned re-election in 2020 by losing the House in 2018.

    The Democrats have made their plans very clear. The will spend the next two years launching investigations and wielding their subpoena power in a blatant attempt to settle political vendettas. Apparently the first item on their list is Trump's tax returns. The ultimate goal for them is impeachment, and I have no doubt that they will move toward that goal as swiftly as possible.

    They will not be able to help themselves. They will not be able to focus on anything other than the dismantling of Trump's agenda and the personal destruction of Trump himself. That is the one thing they are interested in doing and the one thing their base demands they do. This can lead to one of two results:

    1) They dig up something truly ruinous for the Trump administration and ultimately succeed in bringing him down.

    2) They spend two years engaged in one witch hunt after another and never find anything especially damning. At best they embarrass Trump by revealing that he isn't as rich as he claimed (a fact that has already been pretty well established), and they make other anti-climactic breakthroughs in that same vein.

    I can't say for sure which of these options will pan out, but the smart money has to be on the latter. And if that is how it ends up, the voters will almost certainly make the Grand Inquisitors pay a steep price in 2020. The Democrats already paid a steep price, and probably squandered their chances of taking the Senate, when they went all-in on the Kavanaugh smear campaign and came up empty. Their campaign against Trump will be ten times more intense and last for two years rather than two weeks.

    If their anti-Trump crusade proves as fruitless as the anti-Kavanaugh crusade, it is hard to imagine just how thoroughly exhausted and sickened the electorate will feel 24 months from now. Trump won't even have to campaign at all. Nancy Pelosi will see to his re-election herself.
    This is pretty much how I see it shaping out as well. It will backfire big time like everything else they do. Someone smart within the party has to see that subpoenas and investigations will be signing their death warrant.
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    Now that the Dems are in power in the House, I promise you impeachment talk will completely stop by Democratic members of the House.

    It's toxic and will crater their approval.
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    Now that the Dems are in power in the House, I promise you impeachment talk will completely stop by Democratic members of the House.

    It's toxic and will crater their approval.
    They won't be able to help themselves because of the TDS.
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    You guys come up with all this fancy analysis for something that happens every time.

    Party X holds Congress, then Party X takes Executive branch.

    Party Y is outraged, they take House. Next major election Party X CEO is reelected while Party Y takes Senate.

    Rinse and repeat. Clinton, Bush, Obama, now shaping up to be the same under Trump.

    Everyone gets played, feels like they're part of something, the cycle continues. You do not have an impact.
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    Trump's tweet threat was pretty awesome.

    If the Democrats think they are going to waste Taxpayer Money investigating us at the House level, then we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all of the leaks of Classified Information, and much else, at the Senate level. Two can play that game!
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    Now that the Dems are in power in the House, I promise you impeachment talk will completely stop by Democratic members of the House.

    It's toxic and will crater their approval.
    Why do you think that?

    People voted them in because they want Trump impeached.
    digitalchi;1556326171: "imagine him not only getting elected in 2020 but also in 2024 due to some pro trump movement.

    Is there anything in the rules that prevents you from getting elected even though you dont run? I know you technically cant run for a 3rd term"
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    Originally Posted by C Project View Post
    You guys come up with all this fancy analysis for something that happens every time.

    Party X holds Congress, then Party X takes Executive branch.

    Party Y is outraged, they take House. Next major election Party X CEO is reelected while Party Y takes Senate.

    Rinse and repeat. Clinton, Bush, Obama, now shaping up to be the same under Trump.

    Everyone gets played, feels like they're part of something, the cycle continues. You do not have an impact.
    Not quite - the vast majority of history has shown that a first term President that inherits a Congressional majority in both sides loses that in the first mid-term. That happened to Obama, Clinton, and I believe W as well. To lose the House but strengthen the Senate majority has only happened once or never - I don't recall which
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    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    Trump's tweet threat was pretty awesome.
    I really fail to see how everyone acting equally retarded is going to fix anything though.

    Somebody has to rise above, or it becomes a filthy chit show.

    Can we just govern and make policy please? Ffs.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Not quite - the vast majority of history has shown that a first term President that inherits a Congressional majority in both sides loses that in the first mid-term. That happened to Obama, Clinton, and I believe W as well. To lose the House but strengthen the Senate majority has only happened once or never - I don't recall which
    Fair enough, I can see where the difference lies (would rather hold the Senate, tbh).

    Still, my apathy rages /shrug
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    Originally Posted by Maylie View Post
    I really fail to see how everyone acting equally retarded is going to fix anything though.

    Somebody has to rise above, or it becomes a filthy chit show.

    Can we just govern and make policy please? Ffs.
    That's what Trump has been doing past 2 years. Have you been sleeping?

    Lets see what the left will do now that they have house. I can tell you now, A BIG nothing burger,
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    oh look, another morally superior post from you
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    Why do you think that?

    People voted them in because they want Trump impeached.
    Because the House can't impeach the President on their own. They can virtue signal and waste time on impeachment proceedings, but it does literally nothing. It just annoys constituents.

    They have nothing to gain from it. It's a lot like the Kavanaugh hearings. Yeah, way to go, you showed everyone you were against it. And every single one of them lost their races last night. Like I said, it's a toxic issue that only serves to tor**** their own approval.
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    I was going to come in and call you out on coping (just let liberals do it), but you have a valid point. There are already lists floating of investigations that will be launched, and most of them are utter nonsense.
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    Originally Posted by Maylie View Post
    I really fail to see how everyone acting equally retarded is going to fix anything though.

    Somebody has to rise above, or it becomes a filthy chit show.

    Can we just govern and make policy please? Ffs.
    Nobody is going to rise above. The Democrats rally on the fact that Trump is the way he is, then they actually end up acting the same exact way failing to realize they are just as bad.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    Why do you think that?

    People voted them in because they want Trump impeached.
    You know good and well he's not getting impeached. You also know good and well that it won't end well in 2020 if they screech about it for the next two years. The Dems are backed into a corner here. They almost have to legislate.
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    Originally Posted by deepfat View Post
    You know good and well he's not getting impeached. You also know good and well that it won't end well in 2020 if they screech about it for the next two years. The Dems are backed into a corner here. They almost have to legislate.
    The people voted Dems in to impeach/obstruct Trump, that's what they want.

    If Trump didn't want this, then he should have kept the House (which was entirely possible - if the GOP spent more money, I think they could've either kept the House or barely lose it).

    Though to be fair what is there to obstruct? Trump has barely done anything as President. He had a GOP House and Senate for 2 years and what legislative accomplishments does he have? Not much.
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    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    Trump's tweet threat was pretty awesome.

    I'd rather have taxdollars spent on investigations than all the golf trips he keeps taking.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    oh look, another morally superior post from you
    I expect everyone writing, or in the OP's case, copying and pasting the work of other people, on political discussion forums and sub-forums to link their sh*t, even if they support killing unarmed civilians or kidnapping children from their parents.
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    Originally Posted by beowulf10 View Post
    I expect everyone writing -- or in the OP's case: copying and pasting as he never writes an original thought of his own -- on political discussion forums and sub-forums to link their sh*t, even if they support killing unarmed civilians or kidnapping children from their parents.
    What's so funny is that Democrats were the ones doing the separating of families but because Trump is so stupid, he allowed them to say he did it. It's unreal.

    Originally Posted by DamagedAndDull View Post
    I'd rather have taxdollars spent on investigations than all the golf trips he keeps taking.
    This is EXACTLY what I am talking about. What exactly has Trump done as President? Virtually nothing. There's no obstructing to be done because there's nothing to obstruct. His Presidency has just been an ego boost.
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    Just watched trumpy's press conf. He is unhinged and this is day one. No way he'll keep it together for 2 years.

    Originally Posted by deepfat View Post
    You know good and well he's not getting impeached. You also know good and well that it won't end well in 2020 if they screech about it for the next two years. The Dems are backed into a corner here. They almost have to legislate.
    LMFAO! you're clueless. Dems didn't vote so they can 'work' with trumpy...


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    Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
    The Blue Wave never came. Democrats gained 28 seats in the House, less than half of what Republicans gained in the 2010 midterms, and lost ground in the Senate.

    Not a valid argument.

    Without gerrymandering,voter suppression,and dark money by the Republicans,the Blue Wave would have been a Blue Tsunami.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    Not a valid argument.

    Without gerrymandering,voter suppression,and dark money by the Republicans,the Blue Wave would have been a Blue Tsunami.
    "Dark money" lol
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