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    Originally Posted by BlazinWC View Post
    Trading him before the deadline would free up ~$3M in cap. Feel bad for the guy, no one expected Collins to be running for DPOY, KVN to become a top pass rusher, Adam Butler breakout and Winovich contributing at his level as a rookie. Doing the guy a disservice with his continued reduced snapcount, i'm betting BB is seeking someone to take on his remaining contract.
    I was annoyed when BB trade Collins a few years back

    as I said once in this thread: JC is a freak and those type of players don't grow on trees HT is gifted and a great LB but a committed JC can do more than HT (imho and I know this is highly debatable)

    update: do u english bro? geeez my english on this post was beyond pathetic lol
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    You guys see this pic?



    I know Brady can play at an elite level, but you don't really count on it anymore. I think he is (& has) been saving his stuff for the postseason for years now and putting on less than spectacular regular seasons.
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    Originally Posted by JotaroJoestar View Post
    I know Brady can play at an elite level, but you don't really count on it anymore. I think he is (& has) been saving his stuff for the postseason for years now and putting on less than spectacular regular seasons.
    I respectively disagree with you 100% on him saving himself for the post season and not trying his hardest in the regular season. I don't think Brady has declined because of age this season, but I think he's not on his normal game right now because of how the offense is struggling. With poor line protection, not having Gronk's versatility, WR injuries etc he's forcing throws and sometimes making bad decisions in hopes to create something out of nothing.

    This is usually how the Patriots function each year. They struggle early, but figure it out as the season goes on. Last year it was the defense struggling, now it's the offense. Give it time and it'll work itself out.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    I respectively disagree with you 100% on him saving himself for the post season and not trying his hardest in the regular season. I don't think Brady has declined because of age this season, but I think he's not on his normal game right now because of how the offense is struggling. With poor line protection, not having Gronk's versatility, WR injuries etc he's forcing throws and sometimes making bad decisions in hopes to create something out of nothing.

    This is usually how the Patriots function each year. They struggle early, but figure it out as the season goes on. Last year it was the defense struggling, now it's the offense. Give it time and it'll work itself out.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    I respectively disagree with you 100% on him saving himself for the post season and not trying his hardest in the regular season. I don't think Brady has declined because of age this season, but I think he's not on his normal game right now because of how the offense is struggling. With poor line protection, not having Gronk's versatility, WR injuries etc he's forcing throws and sometimes making bad decisions in hopes to create something out of nothing.

    This is usually how the Patriots function each year. They struggle early, but figure it out as the season goes on. Last year it was the defense struggling, now it's the offense. Give it time and it'll work itself out.
    agreed with this

    OL can't block
    Running game is not working
    Edelman injured
    Gordon so so

    Give him an ok TE, LT and numbers will be off the chart.
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    Looks like cutting and re-signing Watson saved us $1.06m in cap space bringing us up to $2.8m in total cap space available.

    Current contract is a 1 year fully guaranteed $800,000 with $140,000 in incentives. Watson takes a hit on the contract, but is now fully guaranteed and we save cap space. Win win.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    Looks like cutting and re-signing Watson saved us $1.06m in cap space bringing us up to $2.8m in total cap space available.

    Current contract is a 1 year fully guaranteed $800,000 with $140,000 in incentives. Watson takes a hit on the contract, but is now fully guaranteed and we save cap space. Win win.
    He's a good guy, might've been able to get a little more somewhere else, maybe not but he's a Patriot now and a winner!

    Watching a conversation about Demaryius Thomas saying the Patriots wasted his time, blah blah…

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    Originally Posted by brighamw View Post
    He's a good guy, might've been able to get a little more somewhere else, maybe not but he's a Patriot now and a winner!

    Watching a conversation about Demaryius Thomas saying the Patriots wasted his time, blah blah…

    Thomas, NOT a Patriot today, Not a winner
    Yeah, I read that too about Thomas. I mean, I get it. He wanted to be a Patriot and he wanted to play. I think we had every intention of keeping him around, but once we brought in Brown he wasn't needed. Football is a business and sometimes this happens.
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    With Mahomes injured there is a possibility for KC to lose more games

    I ask again: who has a real chance to beat the pats in Foxborough during playoff? (assuming Brady stay under the center of course)

    I think Houston is the only one at this moment that could put up a good fight
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    Originally Posted by camaleom View Post
    With Mahomes injured there is a possibility for KC to lose more games

    I ask again: who has a real chance to beat the pats in Foxborough during playoff? (assuming Brady stay under the center of course)

    I think Houston is the only one at this moment that could put up a good fight
    Any of these teams could hypothetically beat the Patriots in the playoffs at home.

    Colts, Chiefs, Ravens, Bills.

    The Colts match up really well with the Patriots and they have imo a top tier coach.
    Chiefs have Mahomes, who has played us twice and put up 3 points in the first half (that won't continue) and still almost beat us.
    Good defense, added Peters, Lamar could drive the defense crazy. They could play unorthodox and beat us.
    Bills have a top tier defense, one mistake away from losing to them in Buffalo.

    A bad game against any of these teams and they beat us at Gillette. The Colts are the sleeper that scare me.
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    Originally Posted by camaleom View Post
    With Mahomes injured there is a possibility for KC to lose more games

    I ask again: who has a real chance to beat the pats in Foxborough during playoff? (assuming Brady stay under the center of course)

    I think Houston is the only one at this moment that could put up a good fight
    Until the Patriots figure out their offensive issues I'm not confident that we are Super Bowl bound. Mahomes will be back come playoff time and if healthy he has the ability to beat any team. Bills always play us tough. Colts have a good defense and solid run game. Ravens are playing well.

    Obviously, we'll be favorites if we're number #1 seed, but I'm not confident enough to say we'll beat any team that shows up.
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    hey it is football anything can happen (like 2007) but:

    KC: our D can kinda stop them but their D can't stop anybody
    Raven: u mean the team with the running back - qb? lol
    Colts: I don't see them ready for prime time
    Bills: can't score (neither we tbh)
    Houston: as of today is the only legit contender imho
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    I would not worry too much about other teams yet. Long season. Playoffs are far far away. 6 wins does not make a team.

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    Jimmy and Jacoby doing pretty good

    I always liked Jacoby demeanor bright future for him!!!
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    Rodney Harrison called Jacoby the best QB in the AFC yesterday (With Mahome's injured).

    I don't even disagree. Although, I think it is in large part due to having a great OL vs the Patriots ****ty one. lol
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    Originally Posted by JotaroJoestar View Post
    Rodney Harrison called Jacoby the best QB in the AFC yesterday (With Mahome's injured).

    I don't even disagree. Although, I think it is in large part due to having a great OL vs the Patriots ****ty one. lol
    Brady is 42 years old. I don't expect him to still be the best all around QB. Brady's greatest strength is his pre-snap reads and understanding what defenses are going to do.

    Tonight's game could be interesting. No Burkhead, No Gordon, Dorsett questionable, Matt LaCosse out, Ryan Izzo out. We will see Ben Watson for the first time this season as well as Eric Tomlinson.

    People are thinking this is going to be a close game, but I don't think so. Jets played Dallas tough, but Dallas looked terrible against them.
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    Mahomes, Jacoby and Jimmy have more "tools" than Brady - nothing wrong with admitting that zhit even Brady once said that he admire qb like vick/newton that with the flick of the wrist can make the ball fly.

    Brady still have a lot left so I hope we see them during playoff or sb
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    Anyone know a site for a live stream. Die hard Pats fan w/no cable, and I gave up drinking so I try to avoid bars. Reddit streams haven't been working month
    Reddit's hosting site is now NFL Bite. That's where I stream all my games. Same as Reddit, but now you have to go to NFL Bite.
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    I don't know why but I have an uneasy feeling about this game....

    Means they'll probably win by 2 TD's


    Go PATS !
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    Originally Posted by brighamw View Post
    I don't know why but I have an uneasy feeling about this game....

    Means they'll probably win by 2 TD's


    Go PATS !




    This guy!

    PATS O still has the potential to be really scary once it's fully healthy, and the D, well...

    Good job Patriots man!
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    Good win tonight. Nothing too crazy on offense. O-line needs to improve. Michel couldn't find any room to run. I'm hoping because Burkhead was questionable this week that he'll be ready to go against the Browns. Glad to see Jakobi Meyer playing well and making good catches. I wonder what we're going to do at FB. I can't imagine we'll continue to use an LB as FB in goal line situations.

    Defense was solid. Poor Sam Darnold played terrible. He said in the first half that he was "seeing ghosts" which makes me LOL. Poor kid has no chance.
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    Great team win. The offense is still not where it needs to be going into a stretch of tough games. The defense continues to look really good.
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    The performance by the O was AMAZING considering they were playing with almost nothing.

    now onto the hard part of the schedule
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    Damn y'all got sanu

    Congrats. He's inanely understated. Always there for the first down and blocks like hell


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    a second for him... kinda high - that tells me NE doesn't feel good about what they have on the roster right now and perhaps Gordon/Kneal are going to miss more time than anticipated.
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    a second for him... kinda high - that tells me NE doesn't feel good about what they have on the roster right now and perhaps Gordon/Kneal are going to miss more time than anticipated.
    How can they not feel good. They have zero competition in the AFC. Chiefs have too many holes and aren’t doing chit but bringing in waiver wire pick ups, Ravens maybe if you get their best game, no ones afraid of the colts or Texans.

    They have to be favorite against any NFC team too. Should be another EZ super bowl.
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    I mean "feel good" about their current roster - let's be honest we haven't play anybody decently good so I bet BB is planning for what is coming ahead.
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    Unless news comes out about Gordon being out for multiple weeks, I truly believe bringing in Sanu means we aren't going to activate Harry and instead will bring back Develin and Wynn.

    Our offensive line is a huge issue and our run game sucks. We were using Roberts, a LB, last night as a FB. If that's not an indicator of how much we miss Develin I don't know what is. I said it before in this thread that missing Develin is a huge hit for our run game and we should bring him and Wynn back.

    I am surprised we gave up a 2nd round pick for a 30 year WR. That being said, I really like Sanu. He's dependable, a team player and very talented. Sanu is 6'2" 215 which is a big body like Harry that can play slot or outside.

    If we can get everyone healthy our WR core will look like this: Sanu, Edelman, Gordon, Dorsett and Meyers. Seems like plenty of depth + Gunner in the mix as well. Meyers is slowly playing better and better. These last two games I've been impressed with his chemistry with Brady and his catching ability. I think he's only going to get better.

    Gordon, Dorsett and Burkhead need to get healthy. Bring back Develin and Wynn and our offense starts to get scary for opposing defenses.
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