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    Should I "cut" legs out of my plan?

    Hey guys. What's up? First time posting. Hope I can get some serious advice.
    So, I am lifting for quite some time now. My goal is not to compete or anything, just planning to reach the "body of my dreams", an aesthetic physique. I know I will have to work on my diet and cutting but, by now, I'm still trying to pack up some more muscle, especially in the upper body. I kind of want to get a wider back and shoulders because my physique is quite "square-like" right now. Would you recommend me some extra focus on specific parts/exercises?
    Also, my legs have a quite nice diameter already and I don't really want to gain more mass (edit: for now!!) (contrarily to some guys, I've never skipped leg day 😂). The problem is I don't want to lose any gains on the upper body by neglecting the legs (I'm aware of the importance of the stimulus on the legs to promote muscle mass build up). So, my final question is: how should I train my legs?
    a) only for maintenance
    b) stop training them completely
    c) keep working hard on them

    Hoping to get some good answers or at least educated guesses from some of you pros out there peace!
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    Just once, I'd like to see a thread from someone cutting out upper body because it's too far ahead of their legs.
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    No you shouldn't cut out leg day, at least not squats and deadlifts.
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    Just once, I'd like to see a thread from someone cutting out upper body because it's too far ahead of their legs.
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    Do not cut out leg day or leg volume. So many reasons not to do this and will create muscle imbalance issues down the road (injury, pain, etc). The fact that you're even considering this shows your lack of body mechanics knowledge.

    Any solid routine will have some form of deads/squats, etc.
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    No you don't want to cut out leg day. Cut out leg day and eventually your legs will start regressing because you aren't training them and now you have to focus on building them back up. Why wouldn't you want to strive to continue making progress with your legs? I'm sure there's room for improvement, there always is no matter where you are at.
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    Originally Posted by LactoseTolerant View Post
    Just once, I'd like to see a thread from someone cutting out upper body because it's too far ahead of their
    Damn, You beat me!

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    Do not cut out leg day or leg volume. So many reasons not to do this and will create muscle imbalance issues down the road (injury, pain, etc).
    Got any evidence to support such a claim?
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    Originally Posted by PSDoc5 View Post
    Hey guys. What's up? First time posting. Hope I can get some serious advice.
    So, I am lifting for quite some time now. My goal is not to compete or anything, just planning to reach the "body of my dreams", an aesthetic physique. I know I will have to work on my diet and cutting but, by now, I'm still trying to pack up some more muscle, especially in the upper body. I kind of want to get a wider back and shoulders because my physique is quite "square-like" right now. Would you recommend me some extra focus on specific parts/exercises?
    Also, my legs have a quite nice diameter already and I don't really want to gain more mass (contrarily to some guys, I've never skipped leg day 😂). The problem is I don't want to lose any gains on the upper body by neglecting the legs (I'm aware of the importance of the stimulus on the legs to promote muscle mass build up). So, my final question is: how should I train my legs?
    a) only for maintenance
    b) stop training them completely
    c) keep working hard on them

    Hoping to get some good answers or at least educated guesses from some of you pros out there peace!

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    Originally Posted by cornman99 View Post
    How much do you squat?
    I squat 260 lb. I'm 169 lbs and 5'8. But, as I said, my goal is to achieve my dream physique, not to compete on anything.
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    I guess you guys are missing the point here. I'm already comfortable with the size of my legs, especially thighs. I DO NOT have spaguetti legs, as that would make my body look ridiculous. I'm one of the guys laughing on spaguetti legs, seriously.
    I just do not want to lose any upper body improvements but at the same time, if I grow any more thigh diameter I will continue to exacerbate the "square-like" body type I have.
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    Originally Posted by PSDoc5 View Post
    I guess you guys are missing the point here. I'm already comfortable with the size of my legs, especially thighs. I DO NOT have spaguetti legs, as that would make my body look ridiculous. I'm one of the guys laughing on spaguetti legs, seriously.
    I just do not want to lose any upper body improvements but at the same time, if I grow any more thigh diameter I will continue to exacerbate the "square-like" body type I have.
    OP, you already have it in your head of what you are going to do.....If you are going to cut legs out, then just do it, but never, and I mean NEVER, tell us about it...

    You should have just said " I am trying to build up my Back and Shoulders. Is there anything I can add to my program to add more size?" And then Faukin end it....or you will not hear the end of it on wanting to drop legs.

    I can squat 325, but my legs must not be as big as yours, so I will continue to work my legs.
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    1) My legs are too big
    2) I squat 260

    Pick one.

    If you're adamant about not growing your legs then you should at least do some work and just cut back on volume or slow down the progression on them. Doing no leg work will just get you laughed off these forums and not taken seriously, which I'm sure you're starting to realize.
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    Originally Posted by Squid24 View Post
    OP, you already have it in your head of what you are going to do.....If you are going to cut legs out, then just do it, but never, and I mean NEVER, tell us about it...

    You should have just said " I am trying to build up my Back and Shoulders. Is there anything I can add to my program to add more size?" And then Faukin end it....or you will not hear the end of it on wanting to drop legs.

    I can squat 325, but my legs must not be as big as yours, so I will continue to work my legs.
    1) I wasn't (and I am not) planning to cut legs out of my plan. Just to do maintenance weights.

    2) I just wanted to get some opinions from people who have been in my situation.

    3) I am well aware of the importance of squatting and deadlifting for your overall physique, so I would never cut them off my plan.

    4) Even if I would stop training legs at some point, it would be for a short period of time, while my upper body would catch up.

    To put it in perspective, my legs are almost as wide as my shoulders right now, just off by 2/3 inches.
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    Waiting for a pic of these massive wheels
    I never said they are massive. There is definitely much room for improvement. I'm saying they are too big in comparison with upper body size.
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    Originally Posted by PSDoc5 View Post
    Hey guys. What's up? First time posting. Hope I can get some serious advice.
    So, I am lifting for quite some time now. My goal is not to compete or anything, just planning to reach the "body of my dreams", an aesthetic physique. I know I will have to work on my diet and cutting but, by now, I'm still trying to pack up some more muscle, especially in the upper body. I kind of want to get a wider back and shoulders because my physique is quite "square-like" right now. Would you recommend me some extra focus on specific parts/exercises?
    Also, my legs have a quite nice diameter already and I don't really want to gain more mass (contrarily to some guys, I've never skipped leg day 😂). The problem is I don't want to lose any gains on the upper body by neglecting the legs (I'm aware of the importance of the stimulus on the legs to promote muscle mass build up). So, my final question is: how should I train my legs?
    a) only for maintenance
    b) stop training them completely
    c) keep working hard on them

    Hoping to get some good answers or at least educated guesses from some of you pros out there peace!
    Hey, PS I would keep legs in your program for maintenance.

    All you have to do is 1 day a week--no progressions or changes in your leg workout. This should allow you to maintain what you have.

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    Remember, no question is a dumb question.
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    Originally Posted by Dwoodsey10 View Post
    Hey, PS I would keep legs in your program for maintenance.

    All you have to do is 1 day a week--no progressions or changes in your leg workout. This should allow you to maintain what you have.

    Remember, no question is a dumb question.

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    Thank you very much for your answer.
    But do you think training at maintenance will slow down my upper body improvements?
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    Originally Posted by PSDoc5 View Post
    Thank you very much for your answer.
    But do you think training at maintenance will slow down my upper body improvements?
    Not at all. Research shows that bodily changes are mostly localized to the trained muscle, and not systemic (Influence of single-leg training on muscle metabolism and endurance during exercise with the trained limb and the untrained limb --Hardman et al)
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    You must be new here.
    You must have seen my post number--good eye
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    Originally Posted by Dwoodsey10 View Post
    Not at all. Research shows that bodily changes are mostly localized to the trained muscle, and not systemic (Influence of single-leg training on muscle metabolism and endurance during exercise with the trained limb and the untrained limb --Hardman et al)
    Exactly the type of educated information I was expecting to get. Thank you for your answers on this thread.
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    Originally Posted by Dwoodsey10 View Post
    Remember, no question is a dumb question.
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    Originally Posted by LactoseTolerant View Post
    Just once, I'd like to see a thread from someone cutting out upper body because it's too far ahead of their legs.
    there was one the other day in the teen section
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    Originally Posted by Dwoodsey10 View Post
    You must have seen my post number--good eye
    Didn't have anything to do with your post count.


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