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    Originally Posted by digital022 View Post
    So it looks like gold is about even over the past 30 days, while bitcoin is down roughly 50% over the same period. Go on about store of value.
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    What was Gold's % drop since the events this week? 20%? that is enormous for a traditional financial asset.

    A store of value's propostion is measured over the long term, not directly after or during a black swan event. Not for Gold, not for Bitcoin.

    This also looks like a store of value to me:

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    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    There's no new narrative. Its still an SOV.

    Is it uncorrelated or lowly correlated? I don't know I haven't looked at the study. Those type of studies dont include Black Swan event outliers anyway.

    What we do need is a new narrative from is all the chitcoins that have:
    - raised tens of millions of dollars (some $1b+)
    - had years to develop
    - havent delivered any sort of product
    - havent delivered any sort of product that works well with their native token (99% of them have chit token economics where the token is not needed)
    - have miracously delivered a product but it hasn't experienced any semblance of usage

    Most chitcoin owners are so deep in to their own 'investments' that they are unable to put down their rose coloured spectacles and become cheerleaders for their chitcoins. The sunk cost fallacy is immense in crypto and many elect to sink with their ship.

    Maybe, except Bitcoin is a ****coin too now (dropping 50% in a day?). The corona crisis is far from over, and I'd love to see continue seeing the delusion from people like you that BTC is a store of value when it hits 1k and lower.

    It's a just a speculative piece of garbage. The crypto space is penny stocks. Still money to be made, but you need to realize it's not changing the world.
    Just for the info, I hit an ATH in satoshi value 3 weeks ago, and sold to BTC. I still hold this BTC, and unfortunately I didn't tether this garbage.

    If anything, people need to be in something like Ethereum with a real world use case that can actually recover when the markets recover, instead of "STORE OF VALUE" lmao
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    Originally Posted by lordpatrick View Post
    Maybe, except Bitcoin is a ****coin too now (dropping 50% in a day?). The corona crisis is far from over, and I'd love to see continue seeing the delusion from people like you that BTC is a store of value when it hits 1k and lower.

    It's a just a speculative piece of garbage. The crypto space is penny stocks. Still money to be made, but you need to realize it's not changing the world.
    Just for the info, I hit an ATH in satoshi value 3 weeks ago, and sold to BTC. I still hold this BTC, and unfortunately I didn't tether this garbage.

    If anything, people need to be in something like Ethereum with a real world use case that can actually recover when the markets recover, instead of "STORE OF VALUE" lmao
    Lol so much rubbish. Looking at your posting history, you've taken every opportunity to chit on BTC in the past year and you've always been proven wrong a short time later - its comical. For Bitcoin you would be a strong oracle for doing the exact opposite.

    I also highly doubt you hit a satoshi ATH 3 weeks ago. Your past statements about BTC and altcoins make it highly unlikely you are stacking sats. It would be highly hypocritical of you to hold BTC over anything else.
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    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    gOlD's PrIcE iS EvEn LaSt tHiRty DaYs



    What was Gold's % drop since the events this week? 20%? that is enormous for a traditional financial asset.

    A store of value's propostion is measured over the long term, not directly after or during a black swan event. Not for Gold, not for Bitcoin.

    This also looks like a store of value to me:

    Gold fell after a strong initial surge. At what point did crypto surge? Many were anticipating that coronavirus would send bitcoin to the moon. The ability to claim bitcoin as a hedge is gone. Store of value is all you can cling onto. USD storing my value a whole lot better.
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    My thoughts on crypto...

    Eth and maybe one or two others (like Link?) will stick around for the long haul.

    Btc will dip to 1-3k and probably wont hit 10 again for another few years. It clearly failed at what it was supposed to do these past few weeks and people lost confidence in it.

    At 1-2K I would probably buy 10k worth.
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    damn cant decide if i should risk selling my eth stack and buy lower.
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    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    This also looks like a store of value to me:

    That chart actually looks concerning to me, the lower highs and general top heavy look it has since jan '18 peak... compared to the '14-17 action

    Bitcoin needs to pump hard and consistently pretty soon, next year or two is crucial and this massive nosedive was a srs kick in the nuts
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    Fed cuts rates to 0. Let's see what crypto does, one more chance to show what it's made of.
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    Btc please go sub $4k again so I can make $2000 in 10 min. Plz.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Fed cuts rates to 0. Let's see what crypto does, one more chance to show what it's made of.
    it closed below the 200 weekly sma.
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    Originally Posted by BDSMBBW View Post
    it closed below the 200 weekly sma.
    another huge fail tbh. I really think btc maximalism might be dead now.
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    crypto = 99% btc.

    maybe we'll be lucky to buy in at 2k or 3k levels. i'm dcaing here @ 4k levels anyways.
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    Anyone here from Brasil? I am starting a franchise of an exchange here and tbh just looking for people to help & who can help me. No obligation really, just want local friends / prospective business partners or employees - feel free to DM me.

    Also, **** this recent drop. BTC won't die though, sure its value is built on peoples' perspective, but the FED just pumped 700billion and cut rates to zero and the stocks STILL fell. Nothing is a safe asset presently and therefore you shouldn't fear the market dying completely.
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    I'm out lads. Sold the last of my BTC at a substantial loss. Plan to buy back in to try and regain some profit when it inevitably dips below 3k.

    I don't think DCA is viable now after Friday, it's fair to say that BTC has failed and is now nothing more than speculative asset.

    Beer flu is srs, we are at the start of a recession and the fed has nothing left to prevent it, salvage what you can and be ready for the biggest and final moon mission before climate change finishes us off.
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    No matter what people know of history they still resort to irrational behavior. Across all markets.

    I guess that's a good thing for people with the right psychology. Otherwise the adage "where there's chaos, there's opportunity" wouldn't be true.
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    ...because NOTHING else is crashing else now. Only BTC. There's no other world crisis going on other than crypto crashing. Can't believe it was all a scam this whole time.
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    You guys are capitulating hard af right now
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    And there it is. Massive injection of helicopter money.

    It's coming folks. Unprecedented times we live in.
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    If there was EVER a time for bitcoin to shine...panic, printing money, Keynesian bullcrap running rampant, 0 interest rates...........the time is now for it to prove itself.
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    Bitcoin sucks, everyone knows that.
    didn't you shill that p&d ava ****coin? lmao no worries tho anyone can get suckered in to buy those scams

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    That chart actually looks concerning to me, the lower highs and general top heavy look it has since jan '18 peak... compared to the '14-17 action

    Bitcoin needs to pump hard and consistently pretty soon, next year or two is crucial and this massive nosedive was a srs kick in the nuts
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    Bitcoin was born during the financial crisis of 08/09, bailouts were even referenced in the genesis block. The bailouts we are going to see after this corona situation will make those numbers look small. The world is in full panic mode so I'm not surprised to see btc dropping with everything else but when you factor in the halving and upcoming financial measures I think this is the perfect time to accumulate. Markets will recover and I would bet btc outperforms most.
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    Originally Posted by Bluestar92 View Post
    Bitcoin was born during the financial crisis of 08/09, bailouts were even referenced in the genesis block. The bailouts we are going to see after this corona situation will make those numbers look small. The world is in full panic mode so I'm not surprised to see btc dropping with everything else but when you factor in the halving and upcoming financial measures I think this is the perfect time to accumulate. Markets will recover and I would bet btc outperforms most.
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