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    What percent increase would you need to retire? I think 5000% (50x) would make me consider, but I'd cash out a lot before than point.
    I haven't really thought about it. My post was mostly in gest...but I'm still with my original crypto plan from the begging and it won't change. Millionaire or bust.....I'll ride it until the wheels fall off at either end.

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    Has there ever been a time when bitcoin mooned and ethereum didn't? I'm thinking more long term over the next year and it feels like ETH has the strongest potential upswing.

    Roughly speaking, Bitcoin is currently at 50% of its all time high of ~20,000, and eth is only at like 20% of its all time high of ~1300.

    If both coins share the same potential for returning to former glory over the next year or two, it seems like ETH offers more opportunity for flipping ones money 5x rather than 2x. Brb accumulating.
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    Should've dumped more when it hit 10.1

    Invested most of stimulus check in crypto; so far so good.

    LMAO at corporately-sanctioned pump and dump material like this: https://markets.businessinsider.com/...0-6-1029281615
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    Has there ever been a time when bitcoin mooned and ethereum didn't?
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    ^^^ repped thanks for posting, that's interdasting. going off of pure speculation, it looks like ETH was stagnant then dumped as people sold off their eth to jump on to BTC slightly mooning. Then as soon as bitcoin retraced from 1200 to 800 (christ i miss those prices) people jumped back on ETH.


    personally, i'm going balls deep in ethereum because i think there's more opportunity to multiply ones investment. There's no way Bitcoin shoots up to $20k and Eth just sits there sub $300
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    https://twitter.com/cryptonator1337/...01480105578496

    https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/stat...905042944?s=19

    Scandal breaking. Brave browser has been redirecting affiliate links for their own profit.

    You should be able to short it on a few exchanges out there.

    EDIT: Market didn't react at all to the news. Hmm. I would consider the short invalid at this point (8hr later).

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    Originally Posted by lowstrife View Post
    https://twitter.com/cryptonator1337/...01480105578496

    https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/stat...905042944?s=19

    Scandal breaking. Brave browser has been redirecting affiliate links for their own profit.

    You should be able to short it on a few exchanges out there.

    Wow. No BAT margin trading on the exchanges I use though. =/
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    Originally Posted by lowstrife View Post
    https://twitter.com/cryptonator1337/...01480105578496

    https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/stat...905042944?s=19

    Scandal breaking. Brave browser has been redirecting affiliate links for their own profit.

    You should be able to short it on a few exchanges out there.

    lmfao quite the scandal. Just a bunch of threatened bitcoin maximalists trying to make a molehill into a mountain. Pretty fkn sad if you ask me. Going long.
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    Originally Posted by lowstrife View Post
    https://twitter.com/cryptonator1337/...01480105578496

    https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/stat...905042944?s=19

    Scandal breaking. Brave browser has been redirecting affiliate links for their own profit.

    You should be able to short it on a few exchanges out there.

    Well, Parker did predict Brave would go viral just a couple of posts up.
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    Well, Parker did predict Brave would go viral just a couple of posts up.
    I would hardly call that viral. Its just a couple hundred bitcoin maximalists circle jerking each other. Brave is already bigger than crypto twitter and crypto reddit.
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    Originally Posted by Parkerscott View Post
    lmfao quite the scandal. Just a bunch of threatened bitcoin maximalists trying to make a molehill into a mountain. Pretty fkn sad if you ask me. Going long.
    A web browser modifying URL's to change them in a for-profit measure is so far removed from what you just said I can't really come up with a rational response.
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    Originally Posted by lowstrife View Post
    A web browser modifying URL's to change them in a for-profit measure is so far removed from what you just said I can't really come up with a rational response.
    and? Does this affect you or anyone in any way?

    I will say it again. Just a bunch of threatened bitcoin maxis just being losers like always. 15.4m monthly active users vs bitcoin at 7m. Theres a reason bitcoin developers have blocked Brendan Eich on twitter.
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    Originally Posted by Parkerscott View Post
    and? Does this affect you or anyone in any way?

    I will say it again. Just a bunch of threatened bitcoin maxis just being losers like always. 15.4m monthly active users vs bitcoin at 7m. Theres a reason bitcoin developers have blocked Brendan Eich on twitter.
    Just because something doesn't affect me doesn't invalidate my right to have an opinion about it or be disgusted about the actions that were taken. The CTO of Brave committed those referral links into the browser. This wasn't some random commit.

    I don't know where you're getting the number of active bitcoin users because that number doesn't exist. It's impossible to know how many people "use" it, or what that metric even means.
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    Originally Posted by lowstrife View Post
    Just because something doesn't affect me doesn't invalidate my right to have an opinion about it or be disgusted about the actions that were taken. The CTO of Brave committed those referral links into the browser. This wasn't some random commit.

    I don't know where you're getting the number of active bitcoin users because that number doesn't exist. It's impossible to know how many people "use" it, or what that metric even means.
    This is fair. I do not see how BAT is a threat to Bitcoin and for there to be any reason for 'maxis' to care.

    Building referrals links into a product which markets around discretionary advertisement is either careless if unintentional or shifty if intentional.
    People never wake up from their fantasy worlds. They live meaningless lives. They waste their precious days over nothing. No matter how old they get, they'll continue to say, "My real life hasn't started yet. I will be incredible in my final form and my best is still ahead." They continue to tell themselves that. And they age. Then die. And on their deathbeds, they finally realize: the life they lived was the real thing. People don't live provisional lives, nor do they die provisional deaths.
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    Originally Posted by lowstrife View Post
    Just because something doesn't affect me doesn't invalidate my right to have an opinion about it or be disgusted about the actions that were taken. The CTO of Brave committed those referral links into the browser. This wasn't some random commit.

    I don't know where you're getting the number of active bitcoin users because that number doesn't exist. It's impossible to know how many people "use" it, or what that metric even means.
    Yeah those ref links are so egregious.....

    Strong concern trolling. Expected better from you.

    Those bitcoin numbers are from a study by chainalysis btw. All of those people on twitter with their pitchforks are bitcoin maximalists that are mad brave abandoned bitcoin and created their own token.
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    Originally Posted by Parkerscott View Post
    Yeah those ref links are so egregious.....

    Strong concern trolling. Expected better from you.


    Serenadium said it best.

    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    Building referrals links into a product which markets around discretionary advertisement is either careless if unintentional or shifty if intentional.
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    Those bitcoin numbers are from a study by chainalysis btw. All of those people on twitter with their pitchforks are bitcoin maximalists that are mad brave abandoned bitcoin and created their own token.
    How does one define a user? I know the work those guys do, I mean it's kind of baked into their name. If they are extrapolating on-chain transactions and active wallets along with API data from Coinbase of created user accounts (hint: they are); that is at best an imprecise measurement of the number of active users. Indivigual users can have dozens or hundreds of wallets, conduct dozens or hundreds of transactions per day. Arbitrage firms do this daily as a regular part of business. Then you have long-term investors who transact at best a few times per year from a single wallet that's held on Coinbase which is mixed in with thousands of other customers. These may be outliers, but I'm bringing them in to make a point that it's a guessing game at best, and it's mostly blind. And then you have all the transaction mixing services, combined custodial wallets on exchanges, etc, etc, etc. This all makes on-chain analysis of the true number of users meaningful impossible. It could be 100,000, it could be 50 million.

    It's not a private company with a centralized bean-counter to determine active users. There is no meaningful way to determine exactly how many "users" are "active". If I had to guess, the best accuracy you could get is to within a single order of magnitude.

    You're comparing apples to oranges. Please stop.

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    I will say it again. Just a bunch of threatened bitcoin maxis just being losers like always. 15.4m monthly active users vs bitcoin at 7m. Theres a reason bitcoin developers have blocked Brendan Eich on twitter.
    What active users has to do with injecting what is basically a phishing link hard-coded into a web browser is beyond me. But you brought it up, so I have to rebut this bull****.
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    Serenadium said it best.



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    How does one define a user? I know the work those guys do, I mean it's kind of baked into their name. If they are extrapolating on-chain transactions and active wallets along with API data from Coinbase of created user accounts (hint: they are); that is at best an imprecise measurement of the number of active users. Indivigual users can have dozens or hundreds of wallets, conduct dozens or hundreds of transactions per day. Arbitrage firms do this daily as a regular part of business. Then you have long-term investors who transact at best a few times per year from a single wallet that's held on Coinbase which is mixed in with thousands of other customers. These may be outliers, but I'm bringing them in to make a point that it's a guessing game at best, and it's mostly blind. And then you have all the transaction mixing services, combined custodial wallets on exchanges, etc, etc, etc. This all makes on-chain analysis of the true number of users meaningful impossible. It could be 100,000, it could be 50 million.

    It's not a private company with a centralized bean-counter to determine active users. There is no meaningful way to determine exactly how many "users" are "active". If I had to guess, the best accuracy you could get is to within a single order of magnitude.

    You're comparing apples to oranges. Please stop.

    EDIT: I'll bring this back in too.



    What active users has to do with injecting what is basically a phishing link hard-coded into a web browser is beyond me. But you brought it up, so I have to rebut this bull****.
    Theres 40m bitcoin wallets so I don't think those numbers are a stretch. Lots of them have been abandoned for 10+ years

    My whole point is that bitcoin turds on twitter are back to being the usual crabs in a bucket. Thats all there is to this whole story. Most people do not give a chit at all, and the only people who are making a stink are nitpicky maximalist turds. Its the same group of people everytime on twitter and reddit.

    Then theres you who is concern trolling about a "phishing" link that is nothing more than a ref link from their partner site.
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    Theres 40m bitcoin wallets so I don't think those numbers are a stretch. Lots of them have been abandoned for 10+ years
    Yeah and I personally have a double digit number of wallets on a blockchain that have some balance on them. Have used many more over the years. Just me, one person.

    You're using a flawed argument to draw an incorrect conclusion. I believe Chainalysis is wrong to give such a specific number.

    Originally Posted by Parkerscott View Post
    Then theres you who is concern trolling about a "phishing" link that is nothing more than a ref link from their partner site.
    It is a phishing link because it transforms a specific URL into a different one.

    It is not a disclosed partner site. There is no documentation about them capturing extra revenue by affiliate signups.

    There is no transparency. For all we know it could be some dude's personal affiliate accounts and it doesn't even touch the company coffers, much less the blockchain and the advertising revenue the token generates for web browsing.
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    used to think BAT was worth something and one of the few legit projects in this space because brendan eich was involved, It pretty much lost all credibility pulling off something like this. They are just as bad as rest of the scam coins out there which are pure moneygrab.

    If they are brazen enough to force users into affiliate links - Imagine what else might be going on behind the scenes that hasn't yet come out yet.

    What eich has done is a serious ethical violation when it comes to software products. Anyone who is invested in a chitcoin , read this. I understand emotions are involved - but time to think critically.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment

    Firstly, a situation has a costly amount of resources such as time, money and people invested in the project. Next, past behavior leads up to an apex in time where the project has not met expectations or could be in a cautious state of decline. Lastly, these problems all force a decision-maker to make choices that include the options of continuing to pursue a project until completion by adding additional costs,
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    Originally Posted by lowstrife View Post
    Yeah and I personally have a double digit number of wallets on a blockchain that have some balance on them. Have used many more over the years. Just me, one person.

    You're using a flawed argument to draw an incorrect conclusion. I believe Chainalysis is wrong to give such a specific number.



    It is a phishing link because it transforms a specific URL into a different one.

    It is not a disclosed partner site. There is no documentation about them capturing extra revenue by affiliate signups.

    There is no transparency. For all we know it could be some dude's personal affiliate accounts and it doesn't even touch the company coffers, much less the blockchain and the advertising revenue the token generates for web browsing.
    Originally Posted by BDSMBBW View Post
    used to think BAT was worth something and one of the few legit projects in this space because brendan eich was involved, It pretty much lost all credibility pulling off something like this. They are just as bad as rest of the scam coins out there which are pure moneygrab.

    If they are brazen enough to force users into affiliate links - Imagine what else might be going on behind the scenes that hasn't yet come out yet.

    What eich has done is a serious ethical violation when it comes to software products. Anyone who is invested in a chitcoin , read this. I understand emotions are involved - but time to think critically.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment

    The over reaction in this thread is sad. Hope that short works out for you two.
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    Originally Posted by BDSMBBW View Post
    used to think BAT was worth something and one of the few legit projects in this space because brendan eich was involved, It pretty much lost all credibility pulling off something like this. They are just as bad as rest of the scam coins out there which are pure moneygrab.

    If they are brazen enough to force users into affiliate links - Imagine what else might be going on behind the scenes that hasn't yet come out yet.

    What eich has done is a serious ethical violation when it comes to software products. Anyone who is invested in a chitcoin , read this. I understand emotions are involved - but time to think critically.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment
    I use Brave and have $30 dollars worth of BAT that I have no way of getting into a regular wallet. But I can 'tip' my admakers. WTF is even the benefit of this garbage?
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    Originally Posted by jamalfudge View Post
    I use Brave and have $30 dollars worth of BAT that I have no way of getting into a regular wallet. But I can 'tip' my admakers. WTF is even the benefit of this garbage?
    You can't make an uphold account?
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    You can't make an uphold account?
    Dafuq is an uphold account?
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    Originally Posted by jamalfudge View Post
    Exhibit B:

    Dafuq is an uphold account?
    brave://rewards/

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    I really don't care about all this BTC vs BAT bullchit. I'm not getting emotionally attached to the movement of fuking crypto lol. However, I've always liked BAT for the simple reason that it is the only crypto-currency that i've seen that has a real life product.

    Is the product great? not particularly, but at least it's already built into some tech people use every day and can be used. Every other coin outside of BTC and ETH talk about a bunch of literal nonsense that no one can see tangible benefits of, so for me, BAT will always be one of 3 coins that i go long on (6+ months).


    All that said, in this day and age of GDPR, CCPA, user privacy, and business transparency... not disclosing they were auto directing to a referral link is very poor business practice. They could have avoided this by putting a "how brave makes money" section on their home page and explaining they autodirect to a referral link (that cost users nothing) and i don't think anyone would give a fuk. But having it exposed in THIS way is poor PR.



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    So is the discrepancy between $ in Coinbase's BTC graph viz and the actual buy/sell order just reflective of BTC's volatility? It's a frustratingly large difference, and then the fee. Should I be doing something else here? Aware me

    Just spiked and ppl rushing to sell, might explain it

    EDIT: nvm it's part of the spread. still, isn't there a way around this.

    edit2 oh so coinbase pro is a thing and it's free but not advertised conspicuously? lol just lol
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    Originally Posted by codefreeze View Post
    So is the discrepancy between $ in Coinbase's BTC graph viz and the actual buy/sell order just reflective of BTC's volatility? It's a frustratingly large difference, and then the fee. Should I be doing something else here? Aware me
    In the time it took me to open misc and respond to this, the price on binance has gone from 9708 to 9706 back to 9708 and now it's at 9687. All this in the span of literally 2 minutes so theres definitely some intense volatility.

    That said, coinbase (and coinbase pro) are absolutely haram. Particularly with the buy in fees.
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