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    Originally Posted by HockeyBacon18 View Post
    I can see more players doing this in the future. Football is too dangerous to play and not get paid. It's so fuked up college athletes get zero money

    As far as Bosa goes, he's suppose to be better than his older brother, which is insane. If he proves that he's healthy come draft time he'll be a top 3 pick and probably 1st overall depending on who's picking
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    It's easy to armchair quarterback this one and say "He should do this & that..." but I'm not the one with millions at stake. I'm just a Buckeye fan living in Columbus who wishes he were still on the roster.

    I have no idea what I would do, but he'll definitely go top 3 - possibly #1 overall. He's that good.
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    Originally Posted by theACEofSPADES View Post
    I can see more players doing this in the future. Football is too dangerous to play and not get paid. It's so fuked up college athletes get zero money

    As far as Bosa goes, he's suppose to be better than his older brother, which is insane. If he proves that he's healthy come draft time he'll be a top 3 pick and probably 1st overall depending on who's picking
    I don't feel bad for college athletes who get a free education and later go on to make millions playing a game. That being said, Bosa is still a top pick. He's established himself as an elite pass rusher and the fact people agree he's better than his brother, taking half a year off isn't going to hurt his value.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    I don't feel bad for college athletes who get a free education and later go on to make millions playing a game. That being said, Bosa is still a top pick. He's established himself as an elite pass rusher and the fact people agree he's better than his brother, taking half a year off isn't going to hurt his value.
    Lol, except when in college they're making the NCAA billions of dollars but don't have a fukking dime to their name as they have no time to get a job.

    Lets be real, most NFL prospects don't get an education in college.
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    Originally Posted by theACEofSPADES View Post
    I can see more players doing this in the future. Football is too dangerous to play and not get paid. It's so fuked up college athletes get zero money

    As far as Bosa goes, he's suppose to be better than his older brother, which is insane. If he proves that he's healthy come draft time he'll be a top 3 pick and probably 1st overall depending on who's picking
    You realize college isn't free in the united states right? Bosa is from florida.- The school easily paid him $60,000 while providing him with 3 years of education. Food. Shelter. Education.

    Anyway- hope he recovers and gets a real pay day.
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Lol, except when in college they're making the NCAA billions of dollars but don't have a fukking dime to their name as they have no time to get a job.

    Lets be real, most NFL prospects don't get an education in college.
    Have a part time, minimum wage job
    Making millions in the NFL

    Pick one

    Also, lettuce not pretend like these students aren't getting "paid" to go to school through free tuition, food and board. We all know how expensive school is.
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    Do any of you watch Ballers on HBO? The season finale was all about how the NCAA is a giant scam making everyone but the guys playing rich

    I love this. Superstar college athlete saying fuk it and going to get paid. Can’t wait until college football is defined as the semi pro league that it is and not a bunch of “student athletes”
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Lol, except when in college they're making the NCAA billions of dollars but don't have a fukking dime to their name as they have no time to get a job.

    Lets be real, most NFL prospects don't get an education in college.
    now who's fault is that? they are playing a game they love in exchange for a scholarship/free education. it's up to the individual if they want to take advantage of that. There are plenty who get their education at some point. Whether it's during their college eligibility, or during their off season, or after their nfl career is over.

    now, if they weren't handing out scholarships, then yes, Pay them all
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    now who's fault is that? they are playing a game they love in exchange for a scholarship/free education. it's up to the individual if they want to take advantage of that. There are plenty who get their education at some point. Whether it's during their college eligibility, or during their off season, or after their nfl career is over.

    now, if they weren't handing out scholarships, then yes, Pay them all
    I don’t think you can realistically expect them to handle all of their classes and football requirements. A few of my roommates at small school played and they had a crazy workload as nobody’s on the team.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    I don't feel bad for college athletes who get a free education and later go on to make millions playing a game. That being said, Bosa is still a top pick. He's established himself as an elite pass rusher and the fact people agree he's better than his brother, taking half a year off isn't going to hurt his value.
    Originally Posted by EthanHun View Post
    You realize college isn't free in the united states right? Bosa is from florida.- The school easily paid him $60,000 while providing him with 3 years of education. Food. Shelter. Education.

    Anyway- hope he recovers and gets a real pay day.
    You guys should watch "Schooled: The Price of College Sports," it should still be on Netflix. It address' everything you guys said



    A very small percentage of players make it to the pros, an even smaller percentage last in the pros. Just because you play for Alabama doesn't mean you're going to the NFL and making millions. These guys are tearing their bodies apart and wrecking their brain for no money. All while the NCAA profits BILLIONS a year, it's absolutely ridiculous the players get 0% of that. The argument that they get a "free degree" is bullchit. They're only going to school because it's a required step to enter the NFL. These 18yr olds have a busier schedule than most adults because of classes, tutors, homework, practice, games, watching film, mandatory workouts, etc.


    If you're not gonna pay them at least let them take endorsements or sell autographs

    EDIT: Arian Foster did a podcast with Joe Rogan where he described what it's really like playing D1 football. Should give it a listen
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    You guys should watch "Schooled: The Price of College Sports," it should still be on Netflix. It address' everything you guys said



    A very small percentage of players make it to the pros, an even smaller percentage last in the pros. Just because you play for Alabama doesn't mean you're going to the NFL and making millions. These guys are tearing their bodies apart and wrecking their brain for no money. All while the NCAA profits BILLIONS of dollars a year, it's absolutely ridiculous the players get 0% of that. The argument that they get a "free degree" is bullchit. They're only going to school because it's a required step to enter the NFL. These 18yr olds have a busier schedule than most adults because of classes, tutors, homework, practice, games, watching film, mandatory workouts, etc.

    If you're not gonna pay them at least let them take endorsements or sell autographs
    It doesn't matter how much the NCAA is making. I don't feel bad for athletes who get to play a game they love for free tuition, books, housing, food etc and the opportunity to make millions in the NFL. If they don't enjoy it or worried about "wrecking their brain", then don't do it.

    Maybe someone should make a semi-pro league for athletes to go play and make money instead of their "free degree."
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    I don't feel bad for college athletes who get a free education and later go on to make millions playing a game. That being said, Bosa is still a top pick. He's established himself as an elite pass rusher and the fact people agree he's better than his brother, taking half a year off isn't going to hurt his value.

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    It doesn't matter how much the NCAA is making. I don't feel bad for athletes who get to play a game they love for free tuition, books, housing, food etc and the opportunity to make millions in the NFL. If they don't enjoy it or worried about "wrecking their brain", then don't do it.
    Again, they have to do it in order the have that opportunity to make it to the pros. That's the main reason most of them are there. You're acting like everyone becomes Todd Gurley or something. About 2% of college athletes make it to the NFL.
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    Again, they have to do it in order the have that opportunity to make it to the pros. That's the main reason most of them are there. You're acting like everyone becomes Todd Gurley or something. About 2% of college athletes make it to the NFL.
    According to Ohio State's website, it costs:
    $20,579.20 a year in tuition
    $2,500 in books
    $3,866 for food plan
    $6,832 for housing

    Over the course of 4 years, Bosa would be getting $135,108.80 of free education services at OSU. Per year break down, that's $33,777.20 which is more than any part time job he could get while in school. Again, I don't feel bad. Even if you're not an NFL prospect, but still getting a full ride scholarship, this amount of "free" education is worth their "pain and suffering."
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    you've got to be retarded to be on the side of the NCAA
    this, i cant believe there are people think these people shouldnt be paid. Pay them, and let them put that money towards school if they wish.

    but then youd be running into labor laws and theyd be making less than the minimum wage based on the hours they put in.

    paying them in terms of "scholarships" is a legal way to manuever around that. And LOL if you dont think these players wouldnt want more than min wage.

    why do you think they cant have agents to tell them how much theyre currently being exploited
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    According to Ohio State's website, it costs:
    $20,579.20 a year in tuition
    $2,500 in books
    $3,866 for food plan
    $6,832 for housing

    Over the course of 4 years, Bosa would be getting $135,108.80 of free education services at OSU. Per year break down, that's $33,777.20 which is more than any part time job he could get while in school. Again, I don't feel bad. Even if you're not an NFL prospect, but still getting a full ride scholarship, this amount of "free" education is worth their "pain and suffering."
    33k/year isn't chit for what they're doing. They deserve money in their pockets. They make their school way more than 33k/year, they deserve a piece of it. You think it's fair that another kid can get a full academic ride without tearing their body apart while someone like Bosa gets that same ride but is required to do so much more and risk permanent damage to his body?

    Seriously, go watch that documentary I mentioned and enlighten yourself
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    Originally Posted by theACEofSPADES View Post
    33k/year isn't chit for what they're doing. They deserve money in their pockets. They make their school way more than 33k/year, they deserve a piece of it. You think it's fair that another kid can get a full academic ride without tearing their body apart while someone like Bosa gets that same ride but is required to do so much more and risk permanent damage to his body?

    Seriously, go watch that documentary I mentioned and enlighten yourself
    Lol...you realize every person in their live, unless they're the CEO, earns just a fraction of what they bring into their company. Jerry Jones is worth $5.6 billion. Does it bother you knowing people are "wrecking their brain" for a fraction of what Jerry makes? Does it both you that any job you've ever had most likely was bringing in only a fraction of what the CEO was making?

    For the record, I'm not saying paying athletes is a bad idea or that I'm against it. I just know that isn't how it works and knowing there are people out there getting $135,000 in free education services so they can play a game they love won't get any sympathy from me.

    I am surprised more student athletes don't sit out to stay healthy for the draft. If you've established yourself as a top prospect and take time off, good for you.
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    Idk how you’ll pay these kids. Who gets what amount. You going to cap it per school? Chit, a lot of these little schools get funded by playing the big ones.


    I am 100% against paying these kids. Even if they fail at football, they’ve got a degree that they had to do chit to achieve and are set up for life if they make the right connections. They aren’t chit w/o this sport.

    I’m over here working my ass off in calculus or whatever finance class while Jamal is sleeping and getting an A because his tutor gives him the answers.

    Fuk u. I worked 40 hours a week/ends + commute while taking 4-6 classes a semester and getting 4 hours of sleep a night. I remember sleeping in the car in school parking lot because I had exams that morning and didn’t want to drive home 20 minutes just to get up in a few hours and drive another 20 minutes and lose 40 minutes of studying.

    I’ll trade my life for them any day of the year.
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    I can see both sides of the argument. The hurdles I think would be tough to overcome are there is a very small percentage of dudes that are NFL level talent. So who gets paid how much? Is it based on performance/value to the team? I don't think that would fly because they would still technically be students. Title IX would probably come into play because even though women's volleyball makes almost no money they are technically being "denied benefits" that football players are getting. Are walk ons paid or just scholarship athletes?

    If you just paid scholarship football players (I took the 130 d1 programs times the 85 scholarships they are allowed) an avg minimum wage salary ($15,080 annually) that would be $166,634,000 per year. Which is 17 percent of the NCAA's annual revenue. I don't know if they'd ever go for that haha.

    I like the idea of a developmental league akin to baseball, and no requirement of attending college as there is now. Mostly because I would enjoy watching the heads of my friends who attended universities solely because they had a good football team explode.

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    Originally Posted by DeshaunWatson View Post
    Idk how you’ll pay these kids. Who gets what amount. You going to cap it per school? Chit, a lot of these little schools get funded by playing the big ones.


    I am 100% against paying these kids. Even if they fail at football, they’ve got a degree that they had to do chit to achieve and are set up for life if they make the right connections. They aren’t chit w/o this sport.

    I’m over here working my ass off in calculus or whatever finance class while Jamal is sleeping and getting an A because his tutor gives him the answers.

    Fuk u. I worked 40 hours a week/ends + commute while taking 4-6 classes a semester and getting 4 hours of sleep a night. I remember sleeping in the car in school parking lot because I had exams that morning and didn’t want to drive home 20 minutes just to get up in a few hours and drive another 20 minutes and lose 40 minutes of studying.

    I’ll trade my life for them any day of the year.
    youre such a fuking moron lol

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    Sure, pay them what semi pro players get paid and make them pay for there education.
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    youre such a fuking moron lol

    "I’ll trade my life for them any day of the year." of course you would cuck "deshaun watson"

    Your IQ is so low you didn’t comprehend what I wrote and went so far over your head. You are a very sad individual with low energy.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    Have a part time, minimum wage job
    Making millions in the NFL

    Pick one

    Also, lettuce not pretend like these students aren't getting "paid" to go to school through free tuition, food and board. We all know how expensive school is.
    You get free food (cafeteria) and living. But you still need money outside of that. Period.

    Meanwhile the schools rake in fukking disgusting amounts of money. At which point, that free schooling/food/living doesn't cost them ****.
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    You get free food (cafeteria) and living. But you still need money outside of that. Period.

    Meanwhile the schools rake in fukking disgusting amounts of money. At which point, that free schooling/food/living doesn't cost them ****.
    College is a business boyo. Just like the NFL is. Chit, the entire world is a business.

    Cheap labor to maximize profits.
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