We're not talking elective procedures, we're talking about a life saving procedure for one person.
No I am speaking of harm to both patients in that example.
It's not a perfect example but there is no actual real life example that is remotely close to this debate.
You really shouldn't be throwing around accusations of garbage arguments because the only thing you have is body autonomy and that has been addressed by several posters here several times.
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Yes and there is still no medical precedent that would force someone to give up part of their body to save someone else under any circumstances, even if they already had the tube in their arm. If the doctor decided to forcibly take it against a mentally capable patient's will, it'd probably be that docs last day on the job.
Not one poster (certainly not you) has managed to explain why bodily autonomy is somehow relinquished just because you say so. In fact no one has done anything but revert to emotional outbursts about murder, because that's literally the only thing the pro life camp has. There are other arguments for why abortion should be legal as well, FYI, it's just that the concept of bodily autonomy is the only one needed to successfully make the case.
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That probably explains why so few appropriate doctors perform abortions. But I guarantee that if you and I were hooked up together and a tube was feeding you something from my body and it kept you alive and severing that tube will result in your death within minutes - most doctors will not sever that tube no matter how much I protest as long as the tube is not negatively impacting my well being.
Body autonomy is relinquished when the mother takes the choice to have sexual intercourse that may result in pregnancy.
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I'm accustomed to the evangelical right voicing their opinion with emotion rather than reason. You're no different than a pink haired lesbian screaming about the patriarch who formulates arguments with insults. :yawn:
Maybe it was a conservative judge? There are quite a few of them.
LOL at this example. Come on, you can do better.
Body autonomy is relinquished when the mother takes the choice to have sexual intercourse that may result in pregnancy.
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I agree you can’t, but it certainly appeared you were. Hence my initial response. I now know that you weren’t, however.
So let’s move on ... you think abortion is immoral and should be banned. I think it’s abhorrent and should be minimized and yet has societal benefits that outweigh its banning. We have different outlooks on the issue.747 Driver
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