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    Is Men's Physique getting too Big?



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    Just the maximum natty limit bro.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    Just the maximum natty limit bro.
    Lol obviously these guys are all sauced, I'm just saying the distinction between MP and CP is slipping away.
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    YES! the full point of starting men's physiques was a smaller, nicer, more attainable aesthetic physique, if you look at the 2014 or 2015 and compare it to 2018 there's a massive difference and if it keeps going in this direction its just going to end up the same route open bodybuilding has went in and be to big
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    The mens physique I saw before looked great. Was p dam aesthetic. These are big... too big.
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    It's the trend that just keeps moving like that. It's happening on the women's side too. Women's BB created some monsters, got to the point where it was too much, and those girls got marginalized. Invent WPD, add bikini, etc. But now bikini girls starting to get rewarded leaner and leaner, striations, etc. Figure girls are getting huge. WPD starting to look more like BB.
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    I always thought that physique was for the aesthetic body that is attainable natty, but judging by Op's video i'd say that's no longer the case.
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    Originally Posted by JamiePhyisque View Post
    YES! the full point of starting men's physiques was a smaller, nicer, more attainable aesthetic physique, if you look at the 2014 or 2015 and compare it to 2018 there's a massive difference and if it keeps going in this direction its just going to end up the same route open bodybuilding has went in and be to big
    Yep, I touched on that in the vid. Even comparing Buendia from his first O to this last one is a very drastic transformation

    Originally Posted by SSGBroly View Post
    The mens physique I saw before looked great. Was p dam aesthetic. These are big... too big.
    Agreed, still amazing physiques from these guys. Just way too sizey.

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    It's the trend that just keeps moving like that. It's happening on the women's side too. Women's BB created some monsters, got to the point where it was too much, and those girls got marginalized. Invent WPD, add bikini, etc. But now bikini girls starting to get rewarded leaner and leaner, striations, etc. Figure girls are getting huge. WPD starting to look more like BB.
    Yeah, it's an all around issue. It's what caused the men's open to get to where it is today in the IFBB, and forced the creation of MP and eventually CP. People are continuously pushing the thresholds year in and year out, which obviously should be the goal (to improve), but it causes those thresholds to be surpassed and eventually the division(s) just seems to accept it push for more and more extremities.

    Originally Posted by HahaRaptor View Post
    I always thought that physique was for the aesthetic body that is attainable natty, but judging by Op's video i'd say that's no longer the case.
    Certainly not. Being that it's pro level and the IFBB, competition drugs of some sort will almost always come into play... but it definitely has gotten out of hand recently.
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    Originally Posted by ProYeo View Post
    It's the trend that just keeps moving like that. It's happening on the women's side too. Women's BB created some monsters, got to the point where it was too much, and those girls got marginalized. Invent WPD, add bikini, etc. But now bikini girls starting to get rewarded leaner and leaner, striations, etc. Figure girls are getting huge. WPD starting to look more like BB.
    ^^^this

    I just don’t understand this, it’s almost like the establishment WANTS to promote drug use among its competitors, destroy the image of healthy athletes, and alienate this sport from the general public. A few years back we were headed in the right direction, what the hell happened?
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    ^^^this

    I just don’t understand this, it’s almost like the establishment WANTS to promote drug use among its competitors, destroy the image of healthy athletes, and alienate this sport from the general public. A few years back we were headed in the right direction, what the hell happened?
    I mean, I'm natty and in WPD... I'm doing well right now, but I understand the limitations. It's self-imposed and I don't expect any sport to cater to me, of course. I respect the hard-work of all the men and women in the sport and I respect whatever decisions they make. I know people like to see the monster dudes, but there's a place for that already. There's also a lot of people who want to see the more 'attainable' physiques, people who want to see what bodybuilding used to be continue... and on the women's side, it just doesn't make sense to push the standard more and more to the point where it lost popularity/got marginalized in the first place. What do you do then, add more divisions? Classic bikini? Classic WPD? etc... (I know this is the men's thread, but the parallels fit)
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    That is just craazy. I was considering competing locally and see what i get obviously ill never reach the kind of look shown in the video though
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    Originally Posted by Kevinwuelm View Post
    That is just craazy. I was considering competing locally and see what i get obviously ill never reach the kind of look shown in the video though
    yeah that **** is ****ed no way in a long while compete up against them or maybe never lol
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    For my perspective, too big ahah
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    To be honest, I didn't know what the rubrics are before I watched this video. But if you put it that way, then I must concur. At the end of the day, there isn't much public info out there for us to know what goes on behind the scenes of Mr. Olympia Body Building Competitions.
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    It was always going to head this way. Humans in general are getting bigger, and typically people evolve in sports and get better over time, maybe due to better nutrition etc, I don't know, but typically players in sports improve over time. Bodybuilding with it's supplements, better knowledge on vitamins and nutrition, the competitors are going to get bigger. Personally I've never really been a fan of actual bodybuilding competitors. i even thought Arnie was too big,but now compared to the elite body builders of today, he's more aesthetically pleasing. Yes they're getting too big, but if the shows are based on muscles, then of course the evolution of bodybuilding is to get bigger and bigger muscles.
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    Anyone (from this thread) see the 2019 Arnold Classic Men’s Physique? Calves were smaller, but upper bodies looked as big (or bigger) than the men’s classic. They really need to turn back the clock and start imposing height/weight limits to preserve the intention of Physique before it goes too far (well..it has gone to far).

    Anyway, what REALLY got my panties in a bunch was the announcer said (and I paraphrase):

    These divisions (Men’s Physique and Woman’s Bikini) are becoming really popular because these physiques are obtainable. A guy can work out for a year or a year and a half, buy a pair of shorts, and be ready for the stage.

    I was like, WTF? These guys have top tier genetics, good looks, the best drugs, have spent thousands of dollars, and have busted thier ass in the gym for years and years. I thought it was disrespectful to the competitors AND the intelligence of the audience.

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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post

    Anyway, what REALLY got my panties in a bunch was the announcer said (and I paraphrase):

    These divisions (Men’s Physique and Woman’s Bikini) are becoming really popular because these physiques are obtainable. A guy can work out for a year or a year and a half, buy a pair of shorts, and be ready for the stage.

    I was like, WTF? These guys have top tier genetics, good looks, the best drugs, have spent thousands of dollars, and have busted thier ass in the gym for years and years. I thought it was disrespectful to the competitors AND the intelligence of the audience.

    P.S. Pro Yeo, were you there this year?
    This may be true for bikini division. If a girl has good genetics (structure, fast metabolism, proportions, etc), she can certainly be top bikini competitors in a couple years.

    But certainly not men physique. You can be an IFBB Pro men physique natural. Yes I said that. But only if you have crazy good genetics and you won't be top competitor with no drugs like the caliber of Jeremy Buendia or Brandon Hendrickson. As good as it gets you will place 16th in Mr.Olympia like Jeff Seid, (I believe he's natural, he doesn't weight much compared to his frame and has always been looking good since he was 12, that's great genetics, he has been training consistently since, but he just doesn't used drugs to take it further like the other guys) and that's if you have crazy good genetics 1% TOP of the population. So yeah, Men's physique is NOWHERE NEAR OBTAINABLE.
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    Originally Posted by UnkleDolan View Post
    This may be true for bikini division. If a girl has good genetics (structure, fast metabolism, proportions, etc), she can certainly be top bikini competitors in a couple years.

    But certainly not men physique. You can be an IFBB Pro men physique natural. Yes I said that. But only if you have crazy good genetics and you won't be top competitor with no drugs like the caliber of Jeremy Buendia or Brandon Hendrickson. As good as it gets you will place 16th in Mr.Olympia like Jeff Seid, (I believe he's natural, he doesn't weight much compared to his frame and has always been looking good since he was 12, that's great genetics, he has been training consistently since, but he just doesn't used drugs to take it further like the other guys) and that's if you have crazy good genetics 1% TOP of the population. So yeah, Men's physique is NOWHERE NEAR OBTAINABLE.
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    Originally Posted by smokinal View Post
    I don't believe he's natty for a second
    Just because your physique looks like **** compared to him doesn't mean he's not natty. People with good genetics do exist, I have worked personally with people like that. His competition weight is 180 lbs at 6'0 which is reasonable considering his height and frame. He looks way bigger because of his gifted structure.
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    Originally Posted by UnkleDolan View Post
    Just because your physique looks like **** compared to him doesn't mean he's not natty. People with good genetics do exist, I have worked personally with people like that. His competition weight is 180 lbs at 6'0 which is reasonable considering his height and frame. He looks way bigger because of his gifted structure.
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