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    Timothy’s Logtastic Fierce 5 Log

    I started fierce 5 today.
    I am very happy to be back in the school weight room. I will be posting my workouts


    Long term Goals:
    Bench: 315
    Squat: 405
    Deadlift: 415

    F5 Goals
    Bench: 205 3x5
    Squat: 260 3x5
    Deadlift: 300 3x5

    Weight goal: about 180-190 ish lbs
    Current weight: 169 lbs


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    Squat: 145 lbs 3 x 5
    Bench: 115 lbs 3 x 5
    Pendlay: 105 lbs 3 x 5
    Facepulls: 15 lbs 3 x 10
    Calf raises: 45 lbs 2 x 15
    Tricep Pressdown: 45 2 x 10


    Everything was easy as it should be. Next workout is on Tuesday so stay tuned
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Squat: 145 lbs 3 x 5
    Bench: 115 lbs 3 x 5
    Pendlay: 105 lbs 3 x 5
    Facepulls: 15 lbs 3 x 10
    Calf raises: 45 lbs 2 x 15
    Tricep Pressdown: 45 2 x 10


    Everything was easy as it should be. Next workout is on Tuesday so stay tuned
    I also loved squatting and rowing.
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    Glad to see you on the right path buddy. IN, to see you make all dem gains.
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    Deadlift 155 3 x 5
    Overhead press 65 3 x 5
    Leg curl 45 3 x 8
    Ab work 2 x 15
    Lat pull down 65 3 x 8
    Bicep curls 65 1x10 1x5

    Kinda overestimated curls that so i’ll just start with the bar.
    I loved deadlifting too it was super easy
    As it should be like everything else

    Next up, Workout A on Thursday
    Kinda freaking out cause of pressing
    Worried of stalling I did start light tho
    But why does pressing always stall a lot for most people
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    Originally Posted by 17mahmoods View Post
    Glad to see you on the right path buddy. IN, to see you make all dem gains.

    Yeah i’m gonna make a lot of gains.
    I want to skyrocket the big 3 and put on more muscle mass
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Yeah i’m gonna make a lot of gains.
    I want to skyrocket the big 3 and put on more muscle mass
    Don't try to rush it tho...at 16, your gains will come fast...make sure you eat a lot too..
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    Here’s my dumbbell modified workout a fierce 5 routine

    I did at home

    Dumbbell squat 55 lbs 3x8 each
    Bench 3x8 55 lbs each
    Db rows 3x8 55 lbs each
    Reverse flies 3x10 20 lbs each
    Calf raises 2x15 40 lbs each /French press 2x10 super set 25 lbs each

    Next workout will be dumbbell on Saturday. Next tuesday and Thursday will be barbell since i have access to the weight room
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    tip: if you are using dumbbells do split squats. Your grip is simply not going to be able to keep up with normal squats.
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    Originally Posted by 17mahmoods View Post
    tip: if you are using dumbbells do split squats. Your grip is simply not going to be able to keep up with normal squats.
    Really? I went up to 75s 3x8 before when I was screwing around over the summer


    Also I can’t balance on split squats
    I suck at it
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Really? I went up to 75s 3x8 before when I was screwing around over the summer


    Also I can’t balance on split squats
    I suck at it
    So, you were up to squatting with 150 lbs...? Compare that number to your goals.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    So, you were up to squatting with 150 lbs...? Compare that number to your goals.
    It was Dumbbell squatting not the lowbar
    Which is more fun and you can lift heavier
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    So, you were up to squatting with 150 lbs...? Compare that number to your goals.
    Is it really that bad to change the leg exercises? I can if so
    I won’t like it but I wanna get bigger and stronger so I don’t care

    For workout A i replaced the split squat with a dumbbell squat

    Then workout B with dumbbell front squats
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Is it really that bad to change the leg exercises? I can if so
    I won’t like it but I wanna get bigger and stronger so I don’t care

    For workout A i replaced the split squat with a dumbbell squat

    Then workout B with dumbbell front squats
    Given the goals you stated in the OP, freeweight barbell back squats are the single most important exercise for you to do, whenever possible. After that...whatever is closest.

    With bench of course you'll want to work barbell bench a lot with your specific bench goal, but using dumbells instead I'd expect much more carryover to the barbell version than with the squat. Barbell back squats are more than just a leg exercise.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Given the goals you stated in the OP, freeweight barbell back squats are the single most important exercise for you to do, whenever possible. After that...whatever is closest.

    With bench of course you'll want to work barbell bench a lot with your specific bench goal, but using dumbells instead I'd expect much more carryover to the barbell version than with the squat. Barbell back squats are more than just a leg exercise.
    Alright I’ll run the dumbbell program as it is
    I suck with balancing so it discouraged me. I can’t get the form right
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    Weight check 168.2 I guess next time I check should be next Monday

    I’m supposed to gain .5 lbs a week
    Idk what my before bulk weight was
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Weight check 168.2 I guess next time I check should be next Monday

    I’m supposed to gain .5 lbs a week
    Idk what my before bulk weight was
    would be a good idea to do a daily weigh in and just record it on an app. libra for anrdoid and happyscale for ios
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    Originally Posted by 17mahmoods View Post
    would be a good idea to do a daily weigh in and just record it on an app. libra for anrdoid and happyscale for ios
    Yes. Weigh each morning. No reason to go with less information, no reason to intentionally skip data points on something that is known to vary. More data points, more accurate trend-line.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Yes. Weigh each morning. No reason to go with less information, no reason to intentionally skip data points on something that is known to vary. More data points, more accurate trend-line.
    169.6 lbs
    Checked this morning right now
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Yes. Weigh each morning. No reason to go with less information, no reason to intentionally skip data points on something that is known to vary. More data points, more accurate trend-line.
    Ok so I’m doing dumbbell workout B rn
    I think i found the solution to my lunge problem. By not doing the variating ones and go leg by leg cause I screw up with that
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    Ok i checked again I’m 169
    Why does my weight keep changing
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Ok i checked again I’m 169
    Why does my weight keep changing

    Because that's what it does. Take and record your bodyweight first thing in the morning, after hitting the bathroom, same or similar clothes (or not), each day. That simple.
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Ok i checked again I’m 169
    Why does my weight keep changing
    Weight fluctuations are normal. To minimize it what I do is I weigh myself each morning in a fasted state after going to the washroom. Just record it using one of the apps I mentioned above and it gives you a better judgement of how your weight is moving.
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    Workout A 10/2/18

    Squats: 165 lbs 3x5 warmup: bar and 1x5 125 lbs
    Bench: 125lbs 3x5 warmup: bar and 95
    Pendlays: 85 lbs 3x8 ish no warmup
    Face pulls: 3x14 15s
    Calf raises with bar 55 lbs 2x15
    Tricep press down: 45 lbs 2x14

    Kinda screwed up with pendlays
    went too heavy i’ll lower the weight to 75 lbs. i was trying to get the form down
    And I got it now my form was garbo fidst workout A.
    Squats not too much of a problem i guess it was with lowbar trying to find where the bar sits. I got it 3rd work set but for the first 2 i could squat it just kinda painfully the way the bar was sitting. I mastered benching finally i found my lift off problem
    The j hooks or whatever they’re called were too low. So i set them one up. Perfect lift off and sets.

    Just gotta tweak lowbar
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    Workout A 10/2/18

    Squats: 165 lbs 3x5 warmup: bar and 1x5 125 lbs
    Bench: 125lbs 3x5 warmup: bar and 95
    Pendlays: 85 lbs 3x8 ish no warmup
    Face pulls: 3x14 15s
    Calf raises with bar 55 lbs 2x15
    Tricep press down: 45 lbs 2x14

    Kinda screwed up with pendlays
    went too heavy i’ll lower the weight to 75 lbs. i was trying to get the form down
    And I got it now my form was garbo fidst workout A.
    Squats not too much of a problem i guess it was with lowbar trying to find where the bar sits. I got it 3rd work set but for the first 2 i could squat it just kinda painfully the way the bar was sitting. I mastered benching finally i found my lift off problem
    The j hooks or whatever they’re called were too low. So i set them one up. Perfect lift off and sets.

    Just gotta tweak lowbar
    -

    Did you do any warmup before the squats? Two sets of squats to start a session, only one above the empty bar, isn't much of a warmup, even at 165 lbs...and especially when you are trying to figure out your form.

    Do a warmup for every major exercise/every exercise that is a new muscle group. So, do a rows warmup, even if at that point it's just one set.

    https://www.andybaker.com/warm/
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    List one weight, the total weight of the bar + plates

    Did you do any warmup before the squats? Two sets of squats to start a session, only one above the empty bar, isn't much of a warmup, even at 165 lbs...and especially when you are trying to figure out your form.

    Do a warmup for every major exercise/every exercise that is a new muscle group. So, do a rows warmup, even if at that point it's just one set.

    https://www.andybaker.com/warm/
    Thank you farley I shall take a look at the link
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
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    Did you do any warmup before the squats? Two sets of squats to start a session, only one above the empty bar, isn't much of a warmup, even at 165 lbs...and especially when you are trying to figure out your form.

    Do a warmup for every major exercise/every exercise that is a new muscle group. So, do a rows warmup, even if at that point it's just one set.

    https://www.andybaker.com/warm/
    I’m still kinda confused can you give an example

    For example: a 130 lb bench
    And 175 lb squat
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    Originally Posted by TLWeight View Post
    I’m still kinda confused can you give an example

    For example: a 130 lb bench
    And 175 lb squat
    Looking at the previous session as a whole I would try something like

    Full body warmup to get the blood flowing/generally warmed up...Agile 8 (look it up), some box jumps, some elliptical, a little bit on a rower (no muscle fatigue to speak of, light and easy), etc, just something so you aren't getting under the bar cold and tight and slow.

    Extended squat warmup because it's such a major exercise, and your first of the day

    Squat
    45x10
    95x5
    115x1
    135x1
    165 3x5

    This give you more opportunity to practice getting under the bar, walking it out, going through reps with as-perfect of form as you are capable, racking, repetition, and get completely warmed up and firing on all cylinders.

    Bench
    45x10
    Face Pulls 1 set
    95x5
    Face Pulls 1 set
    125 3x5
    Face Pulls 1 set

    Rows
    45x5
    65x1
    85 3x5



    Treat every set and every rep, even the empty bar, as if it was a 1RM weight in terms of following strict habits regarding setting up and performing the rep, move the bar quickly with a purpose, concentrate on staying tight throughout always.
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