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    Originally Posted by cannonballdooky View Post
    Other than my friend who only became interested in running after lifting for years, I've yet to see a runner with a good physique, or one that I'd rather have. Mostly all of them are painfully skinny or chubby, running is just cope for those who aren't strong enough to lift lol
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    Jogging right now, so Fukin unfit it’s unreal. Half a mile at a pace of 6 minutes 50 per mile. Done that twice with 5 Min break inbetween. Trying to eventually reach 3 Miles in 20 minutes but can’t even do a mile yet lmao.

    Btw I do have a good physique, always get compliments. Just working on fitness
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    Jogging is not running. Jogging is basically fast walking. Out of shape people take 45 minutes to "jog" 5K. You're not running unless you're under 30 minutes for a 5K as a male.
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    Originally Posted by saltypits View Post
    Jogging is not running. Jogging is basically fast walking. Out of shape people take 45 minutes to "jog" 5K. You're not running unless you're under 30 minutes for a 5K as a male.
    My long term goal is 15 mins, I’ll be so happy if I reach that. Goal within next 3 months is 20 mins
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    Originally Posted by saltypits View Post
    Jogging is not running. Jogging is basically fast walking. Out of shape people take 45 minutes to "jog" 5K. You're not running unless you're under 30 minutes for a 5K as a male.
    You have to jog before you run. When you first start running it's all about pace. You slowly increase distance and speed. When I ran a half marathon I was being passed by soccer moms who were speed walking after mile 8. Yet I can run a 5k in 20 minutes. It's all relative.
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    Originally Posted by sr7914 View Post
    You have to jog before you run. When you first start running it's all about pace. You slowly increase distance and speed. When I ran a half marathon I was being passed by soccer moms who were speed walking after mile 8. Yet I can run a 5k in 20 minutes. It's all relative.
    for most beginners it's probably better to focus on building the work capacity to jog or run longer, rather than speed, running faster to begin with right off the bat will probably kill work capacity, at least for me i'm just focusing on being able to jog for longer times then will work on pace
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    Originally Posted by sr7914 View Post
    You have to jog before you run. When you first start running it's all about pace. You slowly increase distance and speed. When I ran a half marathon I was being passed by soccer moms who were speed walking after mile 8. Yet I can run a 5k in 20 minutes. It's all relative.
    I'm not really all that focused on speed, not sure if I will ever shift that focus. I'm more for distance right now.
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    Running for me gives me a general sense of well being and fitness, but I find the calorie loss jogging is quickly offset by the increased hunger and sugar cravings created by it.

    You have to be extremely disciplined with your diet if you use jogging to lose weight.
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    Originally Posted by nzgs View Post
    Jogging is for people who just don't know better. I agree I almost never see a jogger with a decent physique. Even professional marathon runners look horrible, emaciated and frail.
    don't know better what? Is running bad for you?
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    Originally Posted by Frank Drebin View Post
    Running for me gives me a general sense of well being and fitness, but I find the calorie loss jogging is quickly offset by the increased hunger and sugar cravings created by it.

    You have to be extremely disciplined with your diet if you use jogging to lose weight.
    I’m running to lose weight, yeah it’s extremely hard but feels rewarding. Killing 2 birds with one stone (losing weight, increasing endurance)
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    Well a lot of stupid people think jogging will cause them to lose weight.
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    It’s because it doesn’t burn **** for cals unless running for over and hour, which burns muscle. I run for endurance and stamina and to burn off an extra 200 cals I may have gone over on my diet. Seriously, you can’t outtrain a bad diet.
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    that person you see is probably running for the first time in months. I don't know anyone who regularly runs that's fat
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    I've noticed the opposite.

    Fat people walk, fit people run.
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    Originally Posted by sr7914 View Post
    You have to jog before you run. When you first start running it's all about pace. You slowly increase distance and speed. When I ran a half marathon I was being passed by soccer moms who were speed walking after mile 8. Yet I can run a 5k in 20 minutes. It's all relative.
    The fatties aren't really interested in getting better. They just think that they "ran" and so they deserve to down a muffin or three.
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    Originally Posted by faxanadu View Post
    Not trying to bash you ... but it blows my mind how people in general are so convinced of fancy shoes and by fancy shoe shop employees. Even when you show them info on people like the Tarahumara (indigenous group in Mexico) who have zero issues and run in crappy sandals.

    I spent the two months hiking the appalachian trail in agony due to the shoes i was wearing. A lot of biomechanical imbalances become very obvious when you start walking 15+ miles a day. I went through multiple pairs of shoes trying to figure out wtf the deal was. I got the same spiel about gait/shanks/ankle support/etc every shoe shop i entered. I finally went into some shop attached to an outdoor center on a river and working there was some retired Dr. that had specialized in foot orthotics in his previous life. He simply worked at the shop to stay busy. The dude pulled out the insoles in my shoes, looked at them, and started telling me about all the problems/pain i was having without me even telling him.

    Anyways... he went on to eventually say how most shoes are simply terrible for the average person and causes all kinds of issues that they would never guess to be related to their shoes. And that it doesn't become obvious to most people because the average person doesn't walk/run enough. He basically said you have two choices.

    A) Minimalist shoes
    B) Spend a crap ton of money to get a specialist to make custom shoes for you

    People don't want to do A because they think it is weird. People don't want to do B because it's too expensive. So that's where he came in ... adjust the shoe to fit the stubborn person. I had spent that entire time up to that point trying different shoes to fix problems caused by the shoes themselves. I switched to nike frees using his info ... bammmm issues solved.

    A good minimalist shoe will mold to your feet after a certain amount of use. Similar to a leather bicycle seat and how it will form to your sit bones. Bad shoes ... the insoles will form to your feet / biomechanics but the shoe itself will mostly not.
    Where can one find these minimialist shoes? I've been starting to get some shin splints from all the soccer and running ive been doing lately.
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    Originally Posted by colectk View Post
    Running 3 Miles in 20 mins or so you’re gonna burn 500 cals, and you won’t reach the point where you’re using muscle (over 30 mins). Doing this once or twice a week is very beneficial. Everyone should be doing cardio.

    I eat in a deficit AND run (for my cutting)
    https://www.sparkpeople.com/resource...sp?exercise=22

    maybe if you are like 250 lbs, for the average 150-160 lb male probably around 350 (srs on the 350)
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    Originally Posted by jlick View Post
    Where can one find these minimialist shoes? I've been starting to get some shin splints from all the soccer and running ive been doing lately.
    They've become more common lately. IMO nike frees are pretty minimalist. REI sells various kinds. A lot of outdoors stores like Academy sell them. Anything that is lightweight, extremely flexible, and has zero drop is what i personally consider minimalist. Used to be about the only thing out there were the goofy looking vibram five fingers.

    I've thought about trying some of these out for my next shoe (wearing nike free flyknits now)...

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    I noticed it too...........I think joggers basically train their body to CONSERVE energy (fat) and LOWER metabolism (consume muscle mass) so you end up flabby and like a melted candle but can jog for 20 miles with no problem
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    i assume most are doing it for the health gains
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