Do we have a thread on the mid-engine Corvette yet?

[Avalanche3319]

Some new spy photos:





http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/09/...n-germany.html

[JT11RTR]

I've definitely been interested in it ever since they first started talking about building it.

[Avalanche3319]

I've definitely been interested in it ever since they first started talking about building it.

I can’t wait to hear the performance numbers. Between the vette and the Camaro Chevy killing it as far as performance/dollar ratio.

[twopiece]

Hopefully this means they can start producing them in RHD from the factory instead of the poverty conversions we get in Australia.

If it ever makes it here, it will be at least $200k

[ssg10587]

They had it on the corvette forum somewhere, I think, that they are doing a v8 and a v8 turbo. They are going to be pretty beastly but guessing pretty pricey. Who knows if accurate but floating starting price of 70k.

https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-consideration

I also dig around here a lot: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...iscussion-175/

[Jax05]

I kinda want it to be new sports car "Zora"...get some fresh model going on at Chevy. But I'm excited to see the final product regardless.

[MyBaddBrah]

Once the c8 is out for a year or two, who has an idea of how much the market price of the

- 2017 grand sport will drop to?

and

- 2014-2017 Z06s

[nosirrahx]

If the C8 is amazing the entire mid-engine market might undergo an adjustment.

As it is McLaren is already producing mid-engine V8 monsters that are faster and/or cheaper than many competing cars. Having the C8 in the mix will introduce further disruption.

In my car club we are already seeing far more McLarens than Ferraris. The Huracan is the only reason the Lambos are holding their ground.

On the last cruise I went on I think half of the total Lambos were Huracans and there were as many McLarens as there were Ferraris.

I would love to see a min-engine price war between the Corvette, Lamborghini, Ferrari and McLaren.

There should also be one hell of a price war between mid-engine hybrids by 2025:

https://www.enginetechnologyinternat...aren-2025.html

[bpagonis]

Looks ugly. But at least we get another fast as **** car that is boring as hell. Most owners can't even drive a 10 year old vette to the limit anyways so what's the point? Oh yea, looking cool, red light grand prix and ***goty ass "cruises" to go on.

[EnforcerOTF]

Looks ugly. But at least we get another fast as **** car that is boring as hell. Most owners can't even drive a 10 year old vette to the limit anyways so what's the point? Oh yea, looking cool, red light grand prix and ***goty ass "cruises" to go on.

pls go cry in your prius elsewhere

[bpagonis]

pls go cry in your prius elsewhere

I have driven a prius on a race track before. I figured it would be bad but it honestly shocked me just how terrible it was.

[gatovolador]

What we really need is a Miata or GT86 in mid-engine trim. Like a 4C, but with a stick and less CF.

EDIT: I guess that is called a Lotus- even has a Toyota engine.

[bpagonis]

What we really need is a Miata or GT86 in mid-engine trim. Like a 4C, but with a stick and less CF.

EDIT: I guess that is called a Lotus- even has a Toyota engine.

Or just go spend like $4k on a race ready spec miata and go have the time of your life. Everybody has a couple shots before the races it's legit the funniest thing ever.

[1QWIK7]

Once the c8 is out for a year or two, who has an idea of how much the market price of the

- 2017 grand sport will drop to?

and

- 2014-2017 Z06s

There is no 2014 z06.

But it doesn't even matter because every year, around this time, GM drops the prices on brand new z06's at almost 20 grand. So a z06 that was once 88-90k MSRP is now 68-70k at year end. Brand new z06 with 650hp and exotic supercar looks for under 70k lol. You can't beat it.

With the debut of the C8, depending if there's going to be an FE version or just an ME, will determine how far prices drop for the Z's and GS's. Don't forget the ZR1 is hovering around there and if there is NO FE model for the C8, expect ZR1 prices to really become stable. And i won't be surprised that used 19 ZR1's will be the same price as they go for brand new.

However it does take 2-3 years before GM perfects a certain model. The 18-19 z06's seem to work out all the bugs that the 15-17 z06's had. The only issue still is how sensitive the GM computer is. Meaning if you just put a PTB (ported throttle body), the computer freaks out and throws a CEL. Whereas with a 15-16 z06 you can do a bunch of bolt ons and with no CEL. It was more forgiving.

I honestly can't wait for the C8 because i want to upgrade. I love my C7Z but newer is always better and if GM can get this mid engine corvette right, and if it comes with a PROPER AUTO and not that chitty 8 speed they covered all the C7 models with, then THAT will be the car to get, own, and keep for a long long time.

But i'll be getting the C8 z06 version or whatever high performance model they come out with. Definitely not doing a base C8.

[tng83]

Once the c8 is out for a year or two, who has an idea of how much the market price of the

- 2017 grand sport will drop to?

and

- 2014-2017 Z06s

They wont. If anything C7s will rise in value because average people wont be able to buy C8s. Demand will go up and prices will stay strong.

[nosirrahx]

They wont. If anything C7s will rise in value because average people wont be able to buy C8s. Demand will go up and prices will stay strong.

There is another factor that helps, the robust aftermarket. It will get harder to find unmolested examples as time goes on. As it becomes harder to find low mileage stock C7s their value will hold decently well.

[Dec4y]

They had it on the corvette forum somewhere, I think, that they are doing a v8 and a v8 turbo. They are going to be pretty beastly but guessing pretty pricey. Who knows if accurate but floating starting price of 70k.

https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-consideration

I also dig around here a lot: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...iscussion-175/

Surprised if it's not knocking on 100k start...

[nosirrahx]

Surprised if it's not knocking on 100k start...

Depends on if they feel like they have a winner with high initial demand or something that will need drivers raving about to drive sales.

Its actually better for consumers if people are hesitant at first.

[guest89]

Looks ugly. But at least we get another fast as **** car that is boring as hell. Most owners can't even drive a 10 year old vette to the limit anyways so what's the point? Oh yea, looking cool, red light grand prix and ***goty ass "cruises" to go on.

I think the current gen Corvette is the most aesthetic American car on the road. Even if they stick with a V8, the mid engine Vette will be the best performance to aesthetics to price car on the road.

[BullittEV]

Looks ugly. But at least we get another fast as **** car that is boring as hell. Most owners can't even drive a 10 year old vette to the limit anyways so what's the point? Oh yea, looking cool, red light grand prix and ***goty ass "cruises" to go on.

did someone that drove a vette steal your girl?

jeez lmao.

the car is sexy, american-made, fast, efficient.

c7 upgrades bring the interior up to par. dont be a jelly *******

[1QWIK7]

did someone that drove a vette steal your girl?

jeez lmao.

the car is sexy, american-made, fast, efficient.

c7 upgrades bring the interior up to par. dont be a jelly *******

Sounds like someone who is a closet fan of the corvette but could never own one, whether it's because he's unable to due to kids/wife or because he/she can't afford it lol. So they default into talking chit about it. Simple psychology.

If the C8 will have both the FE and ME models, i expect C7 prices to go down. All of them. Even the ZR1's.

If they finally introduce the new DOHC V8, expect that to be NA for base and some sort of FI for the high performance models.

I do see some 6cyl version thrown in the mix. Like some sort of eco-boost 6 cyl somewhere. Whether the base FE model or a high performance FE model while keeping the V8 variants for the ME models.

Either way, it's a great time to be a corvette fan/owner/enthusiast. They are on the right step with the C7. It finally has the looks of an exotic. Love the C6 and previous gens but GM is finally opening peoples eyes with the C7, hopefully it will get better with the C8.

[Scarrdbutsmartr]

My father in law is a GM lifer and worked at GM his entire career. He trades up into a new Z06 every year and was getting ready to buy a ZR1. He reached out to catch up with one of his friends at GM that is one of R&D engineers on the Zora. The engineer told him the numbers the Zora is putting up are simply ludicrous and to not to waste money on the ZR1. He told my father in law the new Zora is going to make a lot of exotics rethink their life decisions...

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the full release and the specs...

[BullittEV]

My father in law is a GM lifer and worked at GM his entire career. He trades up into a new Z06 every year and was getting ready to buy a ZR1. He reached out to catch up with one of his friends at GM that is one of R&D engineers on the Zora. The engineer told him the numbers the Zora is putting up are simply ludicrous and to not to waste money on the ZR1. He told my father in law the new Zora is going to make a lot of exotics rethink their life decisions...

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the full release and the specs...

bro, tell your dad to hook me up with GM points.

[waisoserious]

I think the idea of a mid-engined corvette is stupid and it will hurt the car.

The Corvette has always been a blue-collared hero. If they make it mid-engine its going to enter another price point. Also mid-engined cars are more troublesome and expensive to service.

Also with the corvette being a V8 (vs a 2.0 or 2.5L Flat 4 like the Cayman/Boxster), it will seriously lack trunk/frunk space.

Also with the mid-engined corvette inevitably costing more than a FR, they will sell less of them. And surely they do not plan to make both mid-engined and FR corvettes side by side.

So I really fail to see where this leads to.

Maybe they should have just introduced another car all together and not called it a corvette at all. That way they could MORE justify charging more than just charging more and still calling it a corvette.

[BuildUpNow]

I think the idea of a mid-engined corvette is stupid and it will hurt the car.

The Corvette has always been a blue-collared hero. If they make it mid-engine its going to enter another price point. Also mid-engined cars are more troublesome and expensive to service.

Also with the corvette being a V8 (vs a 2.0 or 2.5L Flat 4 like the Cayman/Boxster), it will seriously lack trunk/frunk space.

Also with the mid-engined corvette inevitably costing more than a FR, they will sell less of them. And surely they do not plan to make both mid-engined and FR corvettes side by side.

So I really fail to see where this leads to.

Maybe they should have just introduced another car all together and not called it a corvette at all. That way they could MORE justify charging more than just charging more and still calling it a corvette.

Maybe GM feels the Camaro can replace the FR vette.

I just wonder where they will price it at.

[SouthDakotaBrah]

Mid-engine layout is a very Corvette thing to do. The idea of a mid-engine Corvette has been around since the 50s - rumors have surrounded the release of every single generation of the Corvette.

On one hand, the Corvette needs to go mid-engine to improve its performance numbers. The performance potential of the front-engine Corvette has been pretty much been maxed out with the C7 ZR1 - there's really nowhere else the Corvette can go from here to keep improving.

On the other hand, the idea of the Corvette being the "blue-collared hero" is kind of diminished by being mid-engine rather than front-engine. But doesn't the Camaro now pretty much match the Corvette on the race track anyways?

I had figured the C8 would remain the front-engine blue-collared hero the Corvette always has been, and the mid-engine variant would either be a premium trim (still carrying the Corvette name - raising the pedigree of the brand even higher) or even cooler IMO it is branded as a Cadillac.

[1QWIK7]

Maybe GM feels the Camaro can replace the FR vette.

I just wonder where they will price it at.

Considering the camaro ZL1 with the A10 can outperform a C7Z with the A8 really raises questions.

The C7 ZR1 is the peak of what they can do, that's why they shifted over to mid engine. Take a crack at challenging the exotics, for a fraction of the cost.

Plus what a good way to debut the new DOHC NA V8.

Whatever the case is, i can't wait to upgrade to the C8. But i'm not doing a base model. Gotta be a Z or whatever high performance model they call it.

[knightofday]

I REALLY REALLY hope this thing sells well and lowers the price point on C7Zs!!!!!! I MUST get ahold of a C7Z, has to happen

[CrookedDink]

Will be upgrading to a "Zora" "grand sport" as soon as theyre out

[waisoserious]

I don't think anyone has confirmed that it's replacing the C7, lots of speculation of it being an offshoot.


That said, I would absolutely welcome the shift to mid-engine, and look forward to the possibility of it forcing other mid-engine sports cars to get more competitive with their pricing models.

Yea like I said, It would be a better idea for them to introduce it as another model, something not called a corvette. because see below

Maybe GM feels the Camaro can replace the FR vette.

I just wonder where they will price it at.

The camero can never replace the corvette. No matter how much more practical or as fast it is. Because the corvette is a image/brand/icon, its not simple a track time.