fighting with a herniated disc

[BangDingOw]

Anyone know if its possible to fight with a herniated disc? (terrible genetics) - Its my L5-S1 or L4-L5 disc and its compressing on my nerve, which gives me sciatica. Twisting, bending, fast movements and lifting things from the ground are all big no nos with a herniated disc. Maybe I could make my core really strong and stable and it would be possible to do boxing? I think MMA is completely out of the question.

[Azn00Superman]

Fighting? Yeah. Winning? Probably not.

[BangDingOw]

Fighting? Yeah. Winning? Probably not.

yeah true.. genetics ruined my life man

[cgc]

I mean, if you want to be a punching bag or grappling dummy....sure.

I'm assuming you've been to a spine specialist because a member of my family had a nerve compressed and they were able to go in and relieve the pressure. They're probably at 95% now. I'm sure you've already checked on this, but if not...worth a shot.
Hate you're having to live\deal with that pain.

[sooby]

it's difficult, i've had a herniated disc before and I couldn't imagine fighting.

You just never know when it'll act up on you during training or fail you. it is a big risk. Not sure if Derrick Lewis had a herniated disc but that guy seems to be plagued with back issues to the point where he had to pull out of some fights and had less than stellar performances because his back didn't allow him to move.

[Zjunky]

We are not who should be addressing this question. This is a question for your Dr.

I have been trying to recover from a herniation at L5/S1 for several years now. Prior to the injury I was playing judo regularly. At the moment, no. I'm still avoiding anything with high spinal torque.

I'm hoping to go back to it - I really enjoy it. But I'm not going to risk making things worse until I get the approval from the doc. I had to use a standing desk for almost a year because I couldn't sit for more than ten minutes.

Talk to your doctor - and I mean a real doctor, not a chiropractor who will often make things worse. It can get worse - much, much worse. If you want to avoid that, find out what you need to avoid until it recovers. Just be aware that herniated discs do not recover quickly. You could be sidelined for several years.

[BangDingOw]

We are not who should be addressing this question. This is a question for your Dr.

I have been trying to recover from a herniation at L5/S1 for several years now. Prior to the injury I was playing judo regularly. At the moment, no. I'm still avoiding anything with high spinal torque.

I'm hoping to go back to it - I really enjoy it. But I'm not going to risk making things worse until I get the approval from the doc. I had to use a standing desk for almost a year because I couldn't sit for more than ten minutes.

Talk to your doctor - and I mean a real doctor, not a chiropractor who will often make things worse. It can get worse - much, much worse. If you want to avoid that, find out what you need to avoid until it recovers. Just be aware that herniated discs do not recover quickly. You could be sidelined for several years.

Yeah this isn't my first round with a herniated disc. I already had surgery for one I had since 14-15 to 20 years old. I have horrible genetics. Also, doctors and therapists dont know sh** about fighting or weightlifting and have no information about fighting with a herniated disc, they all just say to avoid anything involving bending or twisting. They only know basic things like that.

[KingSWRV]

Well theres different levels of severity but generally speaking you don't want to get a surgery because that kind of makes it all weaker anyways

There is actually a cure the doctors don't normally talk about or know about which is squatting and deadlifting and just making all the ligaments in the surrounding area super strong and then it relieves the tension from the stress points in most cases and you can actually cure the pain just by the effects of lifting.

The caveat is that once you stop lifting and you get weak enough again the pain will come back

I would recommend doing a starting strength type program starting with very light weights

[cgc]

Also, doctors and therapists dont know sh** about fighting or weightlifting and have no information about fighting with a herniated disc, they all just say to avoid anything involving bending or twisting. They only know basic things like that.

Ok, I'm just going to be blunt because I think you're apparently missing what everyone is saying.

You just said that Dr. "only know basic things like that". When you say "basic things", I'm assuming that you were referencing "avoiding anything involving bending or twisting".

With what you said above in mind...what part of MMA does NOT involve bending or twisting? Are you watching MMA fights where people fight like Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots? There is a LOT of bending, twisting and movement that evolves rotation in the hips and back. If you don't trust your Dr. or a Physical Therapist look for someone trained in Sports Medicine....but if you're still being told to stay away from those motions...>Don't do it.

I mean I'm sure you can find some stay at home mom on FB who will sell you some essential oils that might work

Come on man...don't act stupid.

[cgc]

Well theres different levels of severity but generally speaking you don't want to get a surgery because that kind of makes it all weaker anyways

There is actually a cure the doctors don't normally talk about or know about which is squatting and deadlifting and just making all the ligaments in the surrounding area super strong and then it relieves the tension from the stress points in most cases and you can actually cure the pain just by the effects of lifting.

The caveat is that once you stop lifting and you get weak enough again the pain will come back

I would recommend doing a starting strength type program starting with very light weights

1. Surgery does not always mean that it will make the area weaker and or it can not recoup.
2. I'm sure dead-lifting and squatting with a herniate disk that is causing compression on nerves is a wonderful idea.

The guy should talk to a Dr. who specializes in sports med, specifically with spinal injuries.

[KingSWRV]

1. Surgery does not always mean that it will make the area weaker and or it can not recoup.
2. I'm sure dead-lifting and squatting with a herniate disk that is causing compression on nerves is a wonderful idea.

The guy should talk to a Dr. who specializes in sports med, specifically with spinal injuries.

Yeah I agree that so I started off with each severity is different

I'm basing this off of first of all one of my good friends had it he did the surgery and it actually got worse and he got addicted to the pain medications for life and ruined his life and also the fact that I have it and I didn't do the surgery and it went on for two years until i started dead-lifting and squatting and it went away like a miracle after avoiding deadlifts thinking it would make it worse.

The injury was caused by light dead lifting and it was also fixed by light dead lifting so it's a weird thing but I just thought I would share that that was an option that is possible but not commonly known and not very intuitive

[cgc]

Yeah I agree that so I started off with each severity is different

I'm basing this off of first of all one of my good friends had it he did the surgery and it actually got worse and he got addicted to the pain medications for life and ruined his life and also the fact that I have it and I didn't do the surgery and it went on for two years until i started dead-lifting and squatting and it went away like a miracle after avoiding deadlifts thinking it would make it worse.

The injury was caused by light dead lifting and it was also fixed by light dead lifting so it's a weird thing but I just thought I would share that that was an option that is possible but not commonly known and not very intuitive

Considering (as you conveniently pointed out) that there such varying spectrum or back injuries/conditions...do you really think it's a wise thing to suggest ANYTHING given the fact that you know nothing about the dude's condition other than what he said above and the compare two wildly different scenarios you know about?

I've had back issues for years and I have people in my family who have had back conditions as well as back surgery...I've also worked at a hospital (up until about 9 months ago) where I've had the opportunity to talk to PTs and a few specialists regarding sport medicine - that doesn't put me in any position to make recommendations that could potentially do harm than good.

[Pozy]

Anyone know if its possible to fight with a herniated disc? (terrible genetics) - Its my L5-S1 or L4-L5 disc and its compressing on my nerve, which gives me sciatica. Twisting, bending, fast movements and lifting things from the ground are all big no nos with a herniated disc. Maybe I could make my core really strong and stable and it would be possible to do boxing? I think MMA is completely out of the question.

I did boxing and Muay Thai this year, after recovering from a similar injury. I was at it for seven months. Mine injury was pretty bad. Everything was going great then I had leg pain and weakness all of a sudden. I think it is mostly from my job where I sit in a chair all day, however, I think tour is over. I'll try to get back into it depending on my recovery, but I think it is not in it for the cards, for me at least. The symptoms are not bad. It just might not be worth the risk. Good luck with what ever you do.

As a little background my core was great I worked on it and did tons of yoga. Weights, running, biking gave it a bit of pain now-and-then, but all the twisting with Muay Thai and boxing may not jive with my back.

[BangDingOw]

Ok, I'm just going to be blunt because I think you're apparently missing what everyone is saying.

You just said that Dr. "only know basic things like that". When you say "basic things", I'm assuming that you were referencing "avoiding anything involving bending or twisting".

With what you said above in mind...what part of MMA does NOT involve bending or twisting? Are you watching MMA fights where people fight like Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots? There is a LOT of bending, twisting and movement that evolves rotation in the hips and back. If you don't trust your Dr. or a Physical Therapist look for someone trained in Sports Medicine....but if you're still being told to stay away from those motions...>Don't do it.

I mean I'm sure you can find some stay at home mom on FB who will sell you some essential oils that might work

Come on man...don't act stupid.

Lol anyone knows that mma fighters are bending and twisting 24/7 - i literally said mma is out of the question in my post. can you read correctly? gtfo jackass

[BangDingOw]

I did boxing and Muay Thai this year, after recovering from a similar injury. I was at it for seven months. Mine injury was pretty bad. Everything was going great then I had leg pain and weakness all of a sudden. I think it is mostly from my job where I sit in a chair all day, however, I think tour is over. I'll try to get back into it depending on my recovery, but I think it is not in it for the cards, for me at least. The symptoms are not bad. It just might not be worth the risk. Good luck with what ever you do.

As a little background my core was great I worked on it and did tons of yoga. Weights, running, biking gave it a bit of pain now-and-then, but all the twisting with Muay Thai and boxing may not jive with my back.

how long did it take you to get your core really strong? do you think 3 months of daily core exercises is good to make the core strong enough for most exercises besides squatting and deadlifting? i also am gonna start doing lots of pressups and stretching and stuff for my back

[ralphlaurenbrah]

THats a good way to end up in chronic pain for the rest of your life.

Back surgery patient crew checking in. Not worth it man. TRUST me.

[Pozy]

how long did it take you to get your core really strong? do you think 3 months of daily core exercises is good to make the core strong enough for most exercises besides squatting and deadlifting? i also am gonna start doing lots of pressups and stretching and stuff for my back

Oh yeah, three months is plenty of time even with moderate attention. Do take care as everyone and their injuries are different. I am sure you can do what you want if you focus, but the poster above may be right. The risk may not be worth the reward so don't push through and know when to walk away.

[cgc]

Lol anyone knows that mma fighters are bending and twisting 24/7 - i literally said mma is out of the question in my post. can you read correctly? gtfo jackass

Here is the first sentence in your original post.

"Anyone know if its possible to fight with a herniated disc?"

So, if "MMA is out of the question", what the hell exactly are you asking? If you don't think MMA is a possibility based on what you know, what the hell are you asking the question for?

As far as gtfo...keep pushing my buttons and we'll see who ends up taking that request. I'd quit now.

[cgc]

Now, see this is what happens when you act stupid....I start digging and I find multiple accounts....

What was that about gtfo?