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    i was planning on doing upper lower split 3 days a week since i can only do 3
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    At the moment I am flying solo, but I had a few consults with an old therapist of mine prior to starting, and i also kept in touch with them via phone until I felt I made enough progress.

    And yes, I highly, highly recommend seeing someone.
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    i was planning on doing upper lower split 3 days a week since i can only do 3
    Not a bad plan, if you have enough recovery days
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    Well today kind of sucked.... not too bad though.

    Woke up in a weird position and my left rear shoulder area was really irritated with movement. It didn't really flare up at the gym, but either way was a bit odd... oh well.

    Nothing progress-wise today... I did an exact repeat from last push day, and was still able to nag 3 of my 5 sets on squats with 160 5x5, the last two being 155.

    If anything, I think I grinded too hard last time and this was just a reflection of that. On saturday I think it'll be nice and easy.

    Either way, workout took a loooong time... had rest quite a bit.
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    Well, just one of those weeks.

    Only able to do a repeat workout this morning, Pull day.

    Woke up at like 2am after 3.5-4hrs of sleep and felt fine... couldn't get back to sleep until like 5am... then when I finally woke up at 730... just felt awful... like worse than at 2am... weird.

    ANYWAY...

    I decided it was time to weigh myself this morning after two weeks off and just not caring, given some lags in strength changes.

    Obviously I haven't been weighing in so today's could be a fluke, but I'm up 1.7lb from two weeks ago, so that's an average of around .8lb/week... but that might be closer to 1 or closer to .5, who knows.

    EITHER way, it went up... so im happy there

    I also might start tracking my food temporarily to make sure i'm getting enough and see how that goes, too.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Well, just one of those weeks.

    Only able to do a repeat workout this morning, Pull day.

    Woke up at like 2am after 3.5-4hrs of sleep and felt fine... couldn't get back to sleep until like 5am... then when I finally woke up at 730... just felt awful... like worse than at 2am... weird.

    ANYWAY...

    I decided it was time to weigh myself this morning after two weeks off and just not caring, given some lags in strength changes.

    Obviously I haven't been weighing in so today's could be a fluke, but I'm up 1.7lb from two weeks ago, so that's an average of around .8lb/week... but that might be closer to 1 or closer to .5, who knows.

    EITHER way, it went up... so im happy there

    I also might start tracking my food temporarily to make sure i'm getting enough and see how that goes, too.
    Glad you are happy with that bro !

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    Glad you are happy with that bro !

    I hate that dam scale, I am glad my batteries died on it lol
    I do too in a way, but for the first time in years I had zero emotional response to it... makes me feel pretty good knowing that :-D
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    My weight has remained the same for weeks but I feel I'm getting slimmer. I haven't been keeping track of what I'm eating either.
    The scale can’t measure badass, ya know?
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    I do too in a way, but for the first time in years I had zero emotional response to it... makes me feel pretty good knowing that :-D
    That is key; Im working on that too

    I think from so much emphasis on it in the past, it takes steps towards not letting it control
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    Finally hit 160 for my 5x5 squat today.

    Felt very sturdy and strict. Not light, but great on form.

    Yet again... OHP hasn't changed. Not sure what to do about that.
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    AWESOME lift today:


    - Exceeded target reps for BB Row (got to 135x9 on the first set)
    - Reached 165lb on Romanian DL's for all sets (now 165 for 3x8)
    - Increased DB curl reps


    Sleep has been hugely improved.... feeling awesome. Gaining weight pretty quick, but it feels really good having the extra leverage finally.
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    Props for making legit progress. Keep it up!
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    Props for making legit progress. Keep it up!
    Thanks man. Mentally and physically I'm in a weird transitional place... coming out of this eating disorder is a bit like being 'born again' in a way... getting used to feeling fuller, less hunger, better hormonal function, mental focus... makes me appreciate how adaptive the human body can be. Truly amazing.... i'm just glad I finally sucked it up and started properly feeding myself and enjoying not obsessing over leanness.
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    Had a weak session today... back was feeling pretty fatigued and I suspect I didn't get great sleep. New job is awesome but, honestly, it can be overwhelming.

    That being said, Im getting the feeling I need to over-feed/force-feed a little more... as much as I want to simply be 'intuitive', I think testing out a higher-calorie approach for a few weeks just to see where I land would be useful.

    So, i'll probably be opting for more high-fat protein sources... lots of fattier fish, etc... see how I do on that.
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    I have no idea how, but I hit more increases today... 4 hours of awful sleep.... mentally not there... and yet... it happened.

    Pendlay Row (all sets felt lighter)

    135x9
    135x8
    135x8
    135x8

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    165x9 (+1 rep)
    165x8
    165x8

    Weighted Pull Up

    10x8
    10x8 (+1 rep)
    10x7

    Standing DB Curl

    3 sets of 10 at 25lb... added one rep total, second set

    Laterals

    3 sets of 11 at 20lb... added one rep each

    Cable Crunches

    3 sets of 15
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    well... test results in... not good news...

    I have low test... low free test... low white and red cells...
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    Did an un-planned 'deload' push day today. Went in and my body just felt like it needed it. I slept a lot last night, but felt like it's due to the fact that i'm just a bit over-worked.
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    symptoms of low t?

    may i ask what you scored?
    also did you get shbg, e2 thyroid panel, lh and fsh?

    current weight and height?
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    Originally Posted by letsallmakeit View Post
    symptoms of low t?

    may i ask what you scored?
    also did you get shbg, e2 thyroid panel, lh and fsh?

    current weight and height?
    The tests I had were a CBC, Metabolic Panel, Lipid Screen (Total Cholesterol, HDL, LDL, VLDL, Triglyceride, C-reactive protein), and a Hormone test (Free and Total Test).

    i'm 6 feet tall.

    My thyroid is normal, always has been, even when I tested it when I was underweight... im not concerned about my thyroid.

    I have no idea what shbg, e2, lh, or fsh are.

    SYmptoms of low T... no idea, my libido is less than it was when I was at a healthy weight though.

    i've said this before: I already KNOW what the problem is... i've had dozens and dozens of blood tests over the years, and only since I've been underweight were my tests 'off' or low.

    I need to get to a healthier weight for my body, simple as that.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    The tests I had were a CBC, Metabolic Panel, Lipid Screen (Total Cholesterol, HDL, LDL, VLDL, Triglyceride, C-reactive protein), and a Hormone test (Free and Total Test).

    i'm 6 feet tall.

    My thyroid is normal, always has been, even when I tested it when I was underweight... im not concerned about my thyroid.

    I have no idea what shbg, e2, lh, or fsh are.

    SYmptoms of low T... no idea, my libido is less than it was when I was at a healthy weight though.

    i've said this before: I already KNOW what the problem is... i've had dozens and dozens of blood tests over the years, and only since I've been underweight were my tests 'off' or low.

    I need to get to a healthier weight for my body, simple as that.
    i cant message you for some reason. im interested in knowing your current weight since im 6’2” 151 low test too. also would like to know your score if you dont mind
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    i cant message you for some reason. im interested in knowing your current weight since im 6’2” 151 low test too. also would like to know your score if you dont mind
    My total serum test was 179 (ref range 264-916)
    Free Test was 3.54 (ref range 5-21)

    I currently weigh about 130 and am still grossly lean, but it's also up about 4lbs up from start of the month or so.... the last time when my test was high, I was about 172, and I was able to deadlift 410, bench 225 for reps, and squat almost 300... so, I have a ways to go (my avatar pick was during that phase when I was roughly 170).

    I also recently increased my target calorie minimum so force weight gain... I'm looking to essentially 'speed bulk' so long as I don't feel ill until I hit about 140, then see how my body adjusts...

    I'm not closely tracking, as in i'm not tracking macros, i'm simply targeting calories as a minimum and if I go over, it's even better.

    Looking to possibly gain 7-10lb by end of March, if possible.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    My total serum test was 179 (ref range 264-916)
    Free Test was 3.54 (ref range 5-21)

    I currently weigh about 130 and am still grossly lean, but it's also up about 4lbs up from start of the month or so.... the last time when my test was high, I was about 172, and I was able to deadlift 410, bench 225 for reps, and squat almost 300... so, I have a ways to go (my avatar pick was during that phase when I was roughly 170).

    I also recently increased my target calorie minimum so force weight gain... I'm looking to essentially 'speed bulk' so long as I don't feel ill until I hit about 140, then see how my body adjusts...

    I'm not closely tracking, as in i'm not tracking macros, i'm simply targeting calories as a minimum and if I go over, it's even better.

    Looking to possibly gain 7-10lb by end of March, if possible.
    dont get down because of the labs. yes they are low, but if you know its from weight then go ahead and gain some and re test when you feel ready. i got tested low t when i weighted 174 ;/ i do not recommend speed bulk tho. i read hormones does takes time to restore. but if you want to go that way then do it. good luck!

    you said you dont count macros but just make sure you get enough fats atleast
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    Originally Posted by letsallmakeit View Post
    dont get down because of the labs. yes they are low, but if you know its from weight then go ahead and gain some and re test when you feel ready. i got tested low t when i weighted 174 ;/ i do not recommend speed bulk tho. i read hormones does takes time to restore. but if you want to go that way then do it. good luck!

    you said you dont count macros but just make sure you get enough fats atleast
    i'm not down per se... just on a mission.

    believe me, fats aint low ;o)
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    You are pretty damn strong for your bodyweight man

    And as you said, if you want your test levels fixed you know what to do, being underweight isn't the maincause, being grossly lean is
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    Originally Posted by hercules666 View Post
    You are pretty damn strong for your bodyweight man

    And as you said, if you want your test levels fixed you know what to do, being underweight isn't the maincause, being grossly lean is
    Well the two usually go hand in hand... you’re not gunna find someone my height/weight who isn’t pretty damn lean, tho of my course I’m on the extreme end
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    Originally Posted by hercules666 View Post
    You are pretty damn strong for your bodyweight man

    And as you said, if you want your test levels fixed you know what to do, being underweight isn't the maincause, being grossly lean is
    yeah i discovered low t at 172 and i got sad. now im 153 and dont know if gaining is the right thing to do.
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    Originally Posted by letsallmakeit View Post
    yeah i discovered low t at 172 and i got sad. now im 153 and dont know if gaining is the right thing to do.
    6-2 and 153.... what else would u do other than gain?
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    6-2 and 153.... what else would u do other than gain?
    true stuff! i just get well... you know... scared because of low t and everything going straight to fat. (thats why im on road to beat ED)
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    Originally Posted by letsallmakeit View Post
    true stuff! i just get well... you know... scared because of low t and everything going straight to fat. (thats why im on road to beat ED)
    what? test has nothing to do with how you store fat... and at 6'2" 153, why would you be concerned about fat gain anyway? You'd need to gain like 50lb of pure fat to even be considered slightly chubby...
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    Originally Posted by letsallmakeit View Post
    true stuff! i just get well... you know... scared because of low t and everything going straight to fat. (thats why im on road to beat ED)
    Are you actively seeing a professional on a regular basis to help you with your ed?
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