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    Chance for GOP to stop the Blue Wave is here

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    Even as Democratic Party prospects improve statewide in Sun Belt states like Georgia, Texas and Arizona, they’re contending with a stiff pushback in the Upper Midwest. This is where Great Lakes Republicans are looking to buck the “blue wave” expected to crash across America later this year. And while in 2016, Michigan and Wisconsin backed the Republican presidential candidate for the first time in three decades, the GOP’s hopes are pinned on a much deeper transformation underway in the region. Republicans already occupy governor’s mansions in both states. They hope to flip Minnesota this year, with two-term former GOP governor Tim Pawlenty running again. The GOP holds a majority of U.S. House seats in Michigan and Wisconsin, and majorities or supermajorities in all three states’ legislatures. Democratic U.S. Senator Tammy Baldwin, of Wisconsin, looks surprisingly vulnerable, as national GOP-aligned groups pour millions into attack ads. Two Dem-held U.S. House seats in Minnesota could turn red this year; a third teeters. Among them is the 8th District.

    “This open seat is the No. 1 pickup [opportunity] for Republicans nationally,” says Caroline Tarwid, press secretary for Pete Stauber, the presumptive GOP nominee in the contest.

    The rising fortunes of the GOP in this region are rooted in part in factors like factory automation, which has led to declining union rolls. But effective conservative policymaking has been critical too. “Right-to-work” laws, for instance, rob organized labor of funding and new recruits, and Democrats of a once-formidable source of political clout — and votes. In Michigan and Wisconsin, Republican gerrymanders stoke political polarization and voter apathy. And Wisconsin’s strict voter ID law kept at least 16,800 voters from the polls, according to a study by University of Wisconsin professor Kenneth Mayer. In 2016, that accounted for more than 80 percent of Trump’s winning vote share.
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    Didn't read a single word.

    LOL @ Blue Wave
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    Originally Posted by ymer View Post
    Didn't read a single word.

    LOL @ Blue Wave
    Explain your logic behind not believing in the Blue Wave.

    This civil unrest is going to spill over some time, is it not?
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    Originally Posted by ymer View Post
    Didn't read a single word.

    LOL @ Blue Wave

    This.


    "Blue wave is coming!!"

    =

    "Hillary has a 98.1% chance of wining"





    The "blue wave" isn't even based on polls (which are already rigged to the left), but simply on more "Hope 'N Dreams" from the left, aka "cope"


    The blue wave is nothing but "Cope & Dreams"
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    This.


    "Blue wave is coming!!"

    =

    "Hillary has a 98.1% chance of wining"





    The "blue wave" isn't even based on polls (which are already rigged to the left), but simply on more "Hope 'N Dreams" from the left, aka "cope"
    Do you even know why the 2016 election polls failed?

    Pew thinks it's because of "nonresponse bias" i.e. the less educated people didn't want to participate in, or didn't respond to the polls.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ed-their-mark/

    Honestly, ignore the Blue Wave at your own peril - it might just sneak under the radar just like Trump did.

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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Explain your logic behind not believing in the Blue Wave.

    This civil unrest is going to spill over some time, is it not?
    I believe Trump has more support now in the general public than the day he was elected.

    I believe the general public overall is happy with the direction the country is moving.

    I believe jobs are more important to most voters than any other issue.
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Do you even know why the 2016 election polls failed?
    IBD didn't fail - as usual, they nailed it.
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Explain your logic behind not believing in the Blue Wave.

    This civil unrest is going to spill over some time, is it not?
    What is your definition of a Blue Wave this November?

    I'm asking so you can't weasel out of a loss and claim it was a win and proof to your mental claims
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    I believe Trump has more support now in the general public than the day he was elected.

    I believe the general public overall is happy with the direction the country is moving.

    I believe jobs are more important to most voters than any other issue.
    Do you honest to god even believe what you just said?

    Can you think of any other time in recent memory where the U.S. has been so divided fundamentally?
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    What is your definition of a Blue Wave this November?

    I'm asking so you can't weasel out of a loss and claim it was a win and proof to your mental claims
    I'll define it as the Democrats making inroads into the Republican vote and potentially reclaiming the House and Senate.
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    Do you honest to god even believe what you just said?

    Can you think of any other time in recent memory where the U.S. has been so divided fundamentally?
    Polling says otherwise.
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Can you think of any other time in recent memory where the U.S. has been so divided fundamentally?
    Division hasn't changed, you just hear a lot of loud mouthed cry-babies now.
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    I'll define it as the Democrats making inroads into the Republican vote and potentially reclaiming the House and Senate.

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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Do you honest to god even believe what you just said?

    Can you think of any other time in recent memory where the U.S. has been so divided fundamentally?
    The country is not divided. Phaggots just tend to scream louder.
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    I'll define it as the Democrats making inroads into the Republican vote and potentially reclaiming the House and Senate.
    Yeah but give me a number. How many victories?

    A "Blue Wave" has to be measurable. If there isn't a Blue Wave and lots of Democratic losses, you're going to spin it as still a success because if the vote is close, you'll claim its proof that Democrats made "inroads into the Republican vote and potentially" could do better in the future
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    I am not going to lie, I have some fear that we will lose the House.

    But it has nothing to do with people unhappy with Trump, just the historical trends of first term Presidents inheriting Congressional majorities.
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Can you think of any other time in recent memory where the U.S. has been so divided fundamentally?
    Yeah. We had a civil fuking war

    Also, the Vietnam era would like a word with you
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    Yeah. We had a civil fuking war

    Also, the Vietnam era would like a word with you
    You have to be one old fukker to think the civil war is in "recent memory".

    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    I am not going to lie, I have some fear that we will lose the House.

    But it has nothing to do with people unhappy with Trump, just the historical trends of first term Presidents inheriting Congressional majorities.
    Finally, some honesty.
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    You have to be one old fukker to think the civil war is in "recent memory".
    Typical Lib - history is the last twenty years or so, that's why we've made so little "progress"
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Do you honest to god even believe what you just said?

    Can you think of any other time in recent memory where the U.S. has been so divided fundamentally?
    A handful of alt-lefters vs a handful of alt-righters does not make a "division".
    politicians howling at the moon does not make a "division".
    The media wants people to think there is some great divide but it's really only a small part of the population that is nutters.
    Most of that part is on the left.

    everywhere I go in real life democrats and republicans socialize without starting fights or even arguing. imagine that.
    BTW those people who don't feel the "divide" just see the nut-balls on the left because it's all the media reports on and it's driving them to Trumps side.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Typical Lib - history is the last twenty years or so, that's why we've made so little "progress"
    Nice try but recent memory is very specific.

    My contention is the right just doesn’t want to believe there’s a Blue Wave just like the Dems pretended Trump didn’t exist. It’s amazing how little you learned from your own win.
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    It's not unusual for a President to lose house/senate/whatever midterm, and Trump is on pace to keep at least one. Not bad.
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Nice try but recent memory is very specific.

    My contention is the right just doesn’t want to believe there’s a Blue Wave just like the Dems pretended Trump didn’t exist. It’s amazing how little you learned from your own win.
    You want to read these as division since they are below the 50 line, but they are all peaks or near





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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Typical Lib - history is the last twenty years or so, that's why we've made so little "progress"
    And of course he ignored the second half of my comment

    I don't even buy that the country is that divided. Go back and look at some history. People were burning down buildings and killing each other over this stuff. You can find these people walking the streets today. I was talking with my grandmother and MIL about this over the weekend

    The extent of the unrest these days is a few people bickering on the internet. Talk about a yawn

    OP doesn't even live in the US. He has no idea how divided the US is aside from the CNN he watches. Passing judgement with zero regard for perspective.
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Do you honest to god even believe what you just said?

    Can you think of any other time in recent memory where the U.S. has been so divided fundamentally?
    Liberal media hysteria and Soros paid protesters are getting to you. Just LMAO that you believe a blue wave is coming.
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    And of course he ignored the second half of my comment

    I don't even buy that the country is that divided. Go back and look at some history. People were burning down buildings and killing each other over this stuff. You can find these people walking the streets today. I was talking with my grandmother and MIL about this over the weekend

    The extent of the unrest these days is a few people bickering on the internet. Talk about a yawn

    OP doesn't even live in the US. He has no idea how divided the US is aside from the CNN he watches. Passing judgement with zero regard for perspective.
    The best judgements come from neutral parties. Your anecdotal “off the streets” evidence is exactly what’s dangerous. You’re in an echo chamber. Keep at it though, it’s the recipe for losing just like the Dems did in 2016. Everyone knows the Misc is ridiculously right wing.

    Provide evidence the country isn’t divided. Look at Trumps approval rating for example. What does that tell you? What does Maxine screaming in the streets to an angry crowd tell you?
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    Originally Posted by FatalTragedy12 View Post
    Look at Trumps approval rating for example. What does that tell you? What does Maxine screaming in the streets tell you?
    Trump's rating is the highest it has been since he took office - that tells me good things.
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