Today's Order - 2018 Part 5: Double scooping ALL the supplements

[carguy123]

Update on Juggernaut Wild for anyone interested:

If wanting a high stim, opt for Titanium. I'm enjoying Wild but tolerance is a way bigger issue with it compared to Titanium. The 1,4 in Wild seems to be identical to 1,3 in terms of quick tolerance build up.

And I still can't figure out why Arez pres hit so much harder than other DMHA pres, and why White hit's so much harder than Titanium...ya, maybe they are using actual DMHA and other companies aren't, or maybe it's spiked, I don't know. But I mean, Titanium has more DMHA on label compared to White, and White hits way harder...other differences in stims are minimal w White just having .5mg more Rauw, same amount of synephrine, hordenine and caffeine...I mean, noopept and Dendrobium aren't gonna be taking White to a next level stim wise...

Main difference is they claimed they switch the form of DMHA they used. White used 2 amino and titanium uses juglans regia. But I totally agree, white is wayyy stronger than titanium. Last few times I used white it actually made me feel kind of anxious for a few hours after, and thats at like 3/4 of a scoop.

[BenBlue]

Main difference is they claimed they switch the form of DMHA they used. White used 2 amino and titanium uses juglans regia. But I totally agree, white is wayyy stronger than titanium. Last few times I used white it actually made me feel kind of anxious for a few hours after, and thats at like 3/4 of a scoop.

Ya dude, I know exactly what you mean. I honestly can't handle a full serving of White in one sitting. Makes me nauseous and anxious.

[janson_kaniaz]

Funny my friend and I were just discussing how Titanium can even be legal because we get craze-y good workout every single time.

[BenBlue]

Funny my friend and I were just discussing how Titanium can even be legal because we get craze-y good workout every single time.

lulz yep. Very curious.

[SOH11]

So OL’s “I Am Supr3me” is basically a rebrand of Re1gn? Cool, was worried Re1gn was going away. Love that pre, have three unopened tubs in my stash.

Also excited for their protein powder. Curious about what cereal pieces will go in the gingerbread flavor though...but I’ve also got my eye on that Blueberry pastry flavor and how it will stack up to Ghost.

[BenBlue]

So OL’s “I Am Supr3me” is basically a rebrand of Re1gn? Cool, was worried Re1gn was going away. Love that pre, have three unopened tubs in my stash.

Also excited for their protein powder. Curious about what cereal pieces will go in the gingerbread flavor though...but I’ve also got my eye on that Blueberry pastry flavor and how it will stack up to Ghost.

Ya I think it's a rebrand plus their making another PWO, which i'm super curious to see the profile on. I wouldn't imagine OL would make a PWO for the weaksauce, but like, Reign is strong as ****; are they gonna have 2 strong pwo's in their portfolio?

[Meatie]

Anyone occasionally take phenibut for sleep? I'm kicking my benadryl habit. been taking it for about a few months straight and have heard horror stories that it can cause cognitively

thinking 250mg phenibut
ZMA
10mg of melatonin

just to start as i curb benadryl withdrawls

May toss a benadryl into the stack here and there (Not srs) (probably srs)

[VaughnTrue]

Anyone occasionally take phenibut for sleep? I'm kicking my benadryl habit. been taking it for about a few months straight and have heard horror stories that it can cause cognitively

thinking 250mg phenibut
ZMA
10mg of melatonin

just to start as i curb benadryl withdrawls

May toss a benadryl into the stack here and there (Not srs) (probably srs)

phenibut daily is not a great idea

[BenBlue]

Anyone occasionally take phenibut for sleep? I'm kicking my benadryl habit. been taking it for about a few months straight and have heard horror stories that it can cause cognitively

thinking 250mg phenibut
ZMA
10mg of melatonin

just to start as i curb benadryl withdrawls

May toss a benadryl into the stack here and there (Not srs) (probably srs)

i use pheni twice a week and have for the last 2 years at least. Have had great success w it. In fact, I think it's the most valuable supplement in my stash, personally. The anxiety relief, the sleep, it really helps w quality of life.

Not for use everyday though. Tolerance and withdrawal issues.

[VaughnTrue]

i use pheni twice a week and have for the last 2 years at least. Have had great success w it. In fact, I think it's the most valuable supplement in my stash, personally. The anxiety relief, the sleep, it really helps w quality of life.

Not for use everyday though. Tolerance and withdrawal issues.

i took too much one night. gave me crazy sides for 24 hours after. haven't had the balls to take it again since then. a smaller dose would probably be pretty good. how much do you take?

[Meatie]

i took too much one night. gave me crazy sides for 24 hours after. haven't had the balls to take it again since then. a smaller dose would probably be pretty good. how much do you take?

Eh I'd keep it low (250 mg) maybe once in a while if the melatonin won't work for me.

I've been doing 2-3 benadryls per night for the past 4 months. I didn't want to get off but once I started reading into the reduced brain size and decline in cognitive functioning associated with continued use, it was enough for me to want to stop lol

I didn't really gain a tolerance of benadryl either. Just loved how it made me feel. just melted into the bed and felt HNGGGG.

[VaughnTrue]

Eh I'd keep it low (250 mg) maybe once in a while if the melatonin won't work for me.

I've been doing 2-3 benadryls per night for the past 4 months. I didn't want to get off but once I started reading into the reduced brain size and decline in cognitive functioning associated with continued use, it was enough for me to want to stop lol

I didn't really gain a tolerance of benadryl either. Just loved how it made me feel. just melted into the bed and felt HNGGGG.

I've been on sleep meds ever since I started having seizures. I want to get off of them so badly, but lack of sleep is my #1 trigger. I legit have no clue wtf I'm going to do at this point. My neurologist seems to think it's fine to take this stuff daily, but everything else I've ever read/seen says it absolutely is not. I'm going on 1.5 years of daily use, and starting to panic a little bit tbh

[BenBlue]

i took too much one night. gave me crazy sides for 24 hours after. haven't had the balls to take it again since then. a smaller dose would probably be pretty good. how much do you take?

I've experienced that as well. True to form, I had a period where I over did it with Pheni. Not fun when you take too much.

I use one gram, give or take, on Sundays and Wednesdays. I would start lower though if you don't have a ton of pheni experience. I don't think you'd have any issues with 500mg, but you might want to try 250mg to start. Just give it time to kick in. I find it really kicks in 3-4 hours after ingestion and then it plains out and rides steady for 12-24 hours.

[VaughnTrue]

I've experienced that as well. True to form, I had a period where I over did it with Pheni. Not fun when you take too much.

I use one gram, give or take, on Sundays and Wednesdays. I would start lower though if you don't have a ton of pheni experience. I don't think you'd have any issues with 500mg, but you might want to try 250mg to start. Just give it time to kick in. I find it really kicks in 3-4 hours after ingestion and then it plains out and rides steady for 12-24 hours.

I had some experience with lower doses...tried 500mg up to 1g and never saw much tbh. Tried 1 scoop of ****tomax, and thought "ok it's not bad, but I'm not super impressed". Decided to up it to 2 scoops.

really, REALLY bad idea. omfg.

[BenBlue]

I've been on sleep meds ever since I started having seizures. I want to get off of them so badly, but lack of sleep is my #1 trigger. I legit have no clue wtf I'm going to do at this point. My neurologist seems to think it's fine to take this stuff daily, but everything else I've ever read/seen says it absolutely is not. I'm going on 1.5 years of daily use, and starting to panic a little bit tbh

That's tough dude. Lack of sleep is horrible, and it's really hard to kick habits when you develop dependencies on sleep meds.

Valerian Root (smells like ****), Melatonin and Phenibut are what I cycle through. Pheni twice a week, melatonin and/or valerian on the other days. Would be nice not to rely on anything, but I'd opt for stuff like this vs prescribed sleep meds. Prescription drugs scare me.

[BenBlue]

I had some experience with lower doses...tried 500mg up to 1g and never saw much tbh. Tried 1 scoop of ****tomax, and thought "ok it's not bad, but I'm not super impressed". Decided to up it to 2 scoops.

really, REALLY bad idea. omfg.

ok so you want to find your sweet spot in that case. Maybe 1.5G? Not sure how much pheni is in ****tomax.

[VaughnTrue]

ok so you want to find your sweet spot in that case. Maybe 1.5G? Not sure how much pheni is in ****tomax.

I don't know either...but from my experience I'm going to guess somewhere between a lot and a crap ton.

[Farley1324]

Anyone occasionally take phenibut for sleep? I'm kicking my benadryl habit. been taking it for about a few months straight and have heard horror stories that it can cause cognitively

thinking 250mg phenibut
ZMA
10mg of melatonin

just to start as i curb benadryl withdrawls

May toss a benadryl into the stack here and there (Not srs) (probably srs)

After my Fade Out tubs ran dry (one scoop has 1g phenibut) I bought bulk phenibut. 1-2x per week I take 500-1,000mg, generally stacked with a couple hundred mg theanine and some melatonin

[Misctake7]

Eh I'd keep it low (250 mg) maybe once in a while if the melatonin won't work for me.

I've been doing 2-3 benadryls per night for the past 4 months. I didn't want to get off but once I started reading into the reduced brain size and decline in cognitive functioning associated with continued use, it was enough for me to want to stop lol

I didn't really gain a tolerance of benadryl either. Just loved how it made me feel. just melted into the bed and felt HNGGGG.

Go to a doctor. When regular supplements don't work to help you sleep and you're relying on medications at higher than suggested amounts, you're doing damage to your body. See a professional.

[VO2Maxima]

So OL’s “I Am Supr3me” is basically a rebrand of Re1gn? Cool, was worried Re1gn was going away. Love that pre, have three unopened tubs in my stash.

Also excited for their protein powder. Curious about what cereal pieces will go in the gingerbread flavor though...but I’ve also got my eye on that Blueberry pastry flavor and how it will stack up to Ghost.

Yes, Black Magic Edition is rebrand of Re1gn.

Inclusions will be in all but the chocolate peanut butter one, as far as I know. Not necessarily cereal pieces specifically though, it's just that some are cereal influenced so it makes sense in those cases.

Ya I think it's a rebrand plus their making another PWO, which i'm super curious to see the profile on. I wouldn't imagine OL would make a PWO for the weaksauce, but like, Reign is strong as ****; are they gonna have 2 strong pwo's in their portfolio?

International market loves their stims, so yes it'll be strong. Won't have the exotics though so the overall feel will be different. Won't be weak though.

[Misctake7]

Yes, Black Magic Edition is rebrand of Re1gn.

Inclusions will be in all but the chocolate peanut butter one, as far as I know. Not necessarily cereal pieces specifically though, it's just that some are cereal influenced so it makes sense in those cases.


International market loves their stims, so yes it'll be strong. Won't have the exotics though so the overall feel will be different. Won't be weak though.

I'd be okay with a weaker, well dosed pump driven formula. I know.....not a big seller because people are stim junkies

[BenBlue]

Yes, Black Magic Edition is rebrand of Re1gn.

Inclusions will be in all but the chocolate peanut butter one, as far as I know. Not necessarily cereal pieces specifically though, it's just that some are cereal influenced so it makes sense in those cases.


International market loves their stims, so yes it'll be strong. Won't have the exotics though so the overall feel will be different. Won't be weak though.

I'd be okay with a weaker, well dosed pump driven formula. I know.....not a big seller because people are stim junkies

I concur. Reign is plenty strong. A non exotic would be nice.

[Meatie]

Go to a doctor. When regular supplements don't work to help you sleep and you're relying on medications at higher than suggested amounts, you're doing damage to your body. See a professional.

Now you listen here you chicken mcnugget head, i've only been using benadryl to sleep and it always works the same for me. didnt know it was considered 'medication' either lol. i'd go to the doc but they'd tell me to 'cut all stims' and then i'd tell them to make like a tree and Frigg off.

After my Fade Out tubs ran dry (one scoop has 1g phenibut) I bought bulk phenibut. 1-2x per week I take 500-1,000mg, generally stacked with a couple hundred mg theanine and some melatonin

Sweet bejesus, i should've just picked up a few tubs of that instead of this lame home brew. That is a fantastic profile on the fade out.

[Misctake7]

Now you listen here you chicken mcnugget head, i've only been using benadryl to sleep and it always works the same for me. didnt know it was considered 'medication' either lol. i'd go to the doc but they'd tell me to 'cut all stims' and then i'd tell them to make like a tree and Frigg off.

RIP

[SOH11]

Yes, Black Magic Edition is rebrand of Re1gn.

Inclusions will be in all but the chocolate peanut butter one, as far as I know. Not necessarily cereal pieces specifically though, it's just that some are cereal influenced so it makes sense in those cases.


International market loves their stims, so yes it'll be strong. Won't have the exotics though so the overall feel will be different. Won't be weak though.

Cool cool, will keep my eye out for when the protein gets released!

[mccyjcb]

I've been on sleep meds ever since I started having seizures. I want to get off of them so badly, but lack of sleep is my #1 trigger. I legit have no clue wtf I'm going to do at this point. My neurologist seems to think it's fine to take this stuff daily, but everything else I've ever read/seen says it absolutely is not. I'm going on 1.5 years of daily use, and starting to panic a little bit tbh

I would not read Why Do We Sleep by Matthew Walker. This book will scare you s***less into sleep meds. Sleep medicine is considered a sedative, much like alcohol is. He goes on to reference studies in there that say if you take more than 1 pill per year, you're ~3.6x more likely to suffer serious health consequences.

[BenBlue]

I would not read Why Do We Sleep by Matthew Walker. This book will scare you s***less into sleep meds. Sleep medicine is considered a sedative, much like alcohol is. He goes on to reference studies in there that say if you take more than 1 pill per year, you're ~3.6x more likely to suffer serious health consequences.

That seems kind of arbitrary...

[TrainerTone]

So OL’s “I Am Supr3me” is basically a rebrand of Re1gn? Cool, was worried Re1gn was going away. Love that pre, have three unopened tubs in my stash.

Also excited for their protein powder. Curious about what cereal pieces will go in the gingerbread flavor though...but I’ve also got my eye on that Blueberry pastry flavor and how it will stack up to Ghost.

Correct on I Am Supreme Black Magic Edition being a rebrand of Re1gn. I Am Supreme will be the new pre along with a stim free called No M3rcy.

As for the protein, early reviews were great so I’m anxious to try it out.

[Meatie]

I would not read Why Do We Sleep by Matthew Walker. This book will scare you s***less into sleep meds. Sleep medicine is considered a sedative, much like alcohol is. He goes on to reference studies in there that say if you take more than 1 pill per year, you're ~3.6x more likely to suffer serious health consequences.

sounds like the biggest crock of **** statistic i've ever heard lmao

[Gym God]

Sleep meds and a sound sleep > no sleep meds and no sleep

If I can't sleep, I'll find something to put me out. Alcohol ****s up my sleep, so that's out of the question.