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    44 y/o lifting for 20 years, not on TRT

    Is this physique attainable naturally at that age without TRT? Pic is 6' 200lbs
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    Originally Posted by actionactor View Post
    Is this physique attainable naturally at that age without TRT? Pic is 6' 200lbs
    There were guys with far better physiques as former 'golden age' bodybuilders before drugs entered the sport.....so sure.

    It's all in the genes man. Nothing that crazy about his physique. Looks good.
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    Originally Posted by actionactor View Post
    Is this physique attainable naturally at that age without TRT? Pic is 6' 200lbs
    I don't believe the 6' part based on that pic, but being short would make it easier.
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    Originally Posted by bigtallox View Post
    I don't believe the 6' part based on that pic, but being short would make it easier.
    Looks like a taller guy. He is not very "thick" at all. Back in not even showing from the front. Guy is fit, but nothing even close to a physique I would feel the need to question about attanabiliy if a guy had a good training response.

    6' and 200lbs seem totally believable. Cut down, the guy would be in the low 180's showing good midsection definition. It is sad that people have become so skeptical that even 'decent' build is called into question. These usually come from those on the other side of the curve of genetic response. They just cant wrap their heads around the idea that so much of one's success or failure is pre-determined. Genetics are everything. Some are lucky, some are not. That said, you can always improve YOURSELF....but it is not a level playing feild out there, and hard work and time can only shift the curve slightly.

    Just like I can work as hard as I want, and I will never be 6'8
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    Originally Posted by actionactor View Post
    Is this physique attainable naturally at that age without TRT? Pic is 6' 200lbs
    Not sure why you would even think his physique is enhance with TRT or otherwise, his build looks decent.

    I can understand you questioning folks who are on but never come out and admit it one way or another, (those folks are lying to themselves) but you have to be realistic as to what build you are questioning and the one you just posted is not questionable.
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    Not sure why you would even think his physique is enhance with TRT or otherwise, his build looks decent.

    I can understand you questioning folks who are on but never come out and admit it one way or another, (those folks are lying to themselves) but you have to be realistic as to what build you are questioning and the one you just posted is not questionable.
    The ironic part of all of this, is I see guys all the time that are FAR from natural and look 10x worse than the guy the OP posted.
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    The ironic part of all of this, is I see guys all the time that are FAR from natural and look 10x worse than the guy the OP posted.
    Sad but true.
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    Well, it's like politics...the media/fitness industry has half the idiots believing guys that are on something aren't, and the other half of the idiots believe the guys that aren't on anything must be.

    At 160 pounds sopping wet, I've actually been accused a couple times...people can be kinda stupid when it comes to this, and they will believe whatever makes them feel better about thier own genetics.

    I've seen guys that don't even lift, who have wide shoulders, tiny waists, and huge calves. They look better than me without ever stepping in a gym...imagine if they did.
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