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    Married over fifteen years. Advice for young Miscers. (srs post)

    So my wife and I went to high school together but we didn't start dating until our second year of college. We got married in 2002, so this year will be our sixteenth wedding anniversary. Contrary to popular belief, we haven't cheated on each other. She hasn't stolen half of my money and I haven't stolen half of hers. We love each other more today than we did fifteen-years ago. (srs)

    How can this be? Aren't all women just sloots who will divorce you and take half your life with them? I see a whole lot of young men with unproductive attitudes toward women here, so I thought I'd offer my opinion. No need to get all worked up about it as I know some of you will. I acknowledge that it's just an opinion.

    The first major problem I see is that you all look for women online. Just because television commercials and spending too much time in places like this have brainwashed you into thinking that this is a normal way to meet nice women doesn't make it the truth. What kind of women do you expect to meet when you are picking them up on scummy sites like Tinder? Think about it. No wonder some of you think all women are bad. The only ones you try to date are the ones who have to advertise online.

    The second major problem is that most of you guys are far too entrenched in pornography. You guys grew up with it and have been watching that crap for so long that you can't tell the difference between the scum that populate porn hub and people in the real world. Most of you would have no idea how to get a female physically interested in you because again, you are brainwashed by this crap.

    Another one that I see is that many of you have psychological issues with women. Here's a fun fact: They're really not that different than you are. I don't mean that in some weird liberal way. I just mean that if you're a guy who has never and would never cheat on a significant other (you can count me as one of those men), there's women out there like that as well. For various reasons (mother issues, brainwashing from dumb YouTube sources like mgtow, other miscers, etc), many of you seem to think that all women are sluts and they're going to run around behind your back. This is not true. I repeat: This is not true. But you can make it true by way of self-fulfilling prophecy. You attract what you believe about yourself and others. Am I stating that all women are good? Absolutely not. But they're not all bad either. Not even close.

    Here's a crazy idea for some of you: Quit making it your aim to meet women only for one-night stands on Tinder. Meet actual women at college or Starbucks. Walk up to one and meet her. Talk to her like a person (hint: she probably is one). Ask her on an actual date. Seriously, why don't you guys actually try that? Walk up to a young woman and talk to her like a person. If it's a good conversation, ask her if she wants to go on a date. Make it non-creepy and don't try to screw her on the first date. Go to lunch or dinner or something and delete your Tinder app.

    Cliffs
    -Delete Tinder (or whatever app you're using).
    -Meet real women and stop making it your singular goal to have sex on the first date.
    -Quit watching so much porn.
    -Stop believing all the crap you read and see on the Internet. I promise you there are enough good women to go around. You're just attracting all the wrong ones.
    -Go on a date and dress decent. Be a gentleman.
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    This is solid advice, brah. But it's irrelevant for today.

    One thing you have to keep in mind: we are from an older generation. It was different back then. You have to take that into account that the young guys who feel this way grew up in the tinder/social media age.

    It's a completely different ball game. There's no doubt in my mind women are a lot more promiscuous today than even just 15 years ago. There's no denying that social media has had an immense negative affect on the male/female dynamics.
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    Opening this up.

    The extreme positivity, feminism, love, and pure genius a lot of you men post here daily truly makes me smile Irl.

    The reality here is: OP found a woman he hates and wanted to divorce. Did it in a conventional venue, and was a failure. Shame on him! Don't be such an inspiring person for the sake of being great...

    The small amount of comments uplifting women also has to continue. I'll begin mod repping for those comments when I see them. So keep it up.

    OP has less life experience than the small minority of the misc, with the average age being around 66, and doesn't know his relationship better than everyone here. Who the fuk are you to lift his spirits? Get a life. falsely.

    OP. I wish you the worst of luck. It sounds like you've found a loser.
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    Theres some stuff i agree with and some stuff i dont agree with in your post but really ill just say it feels like your hearts in the right place and youre right there are morally "good" women.
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    "Must spread some reputation around before giving it to truth speaker again"

    Spot on post. And the sad thing... It's MOSTLY common sense. Its the copy/pasted red pill chit from Reddit and butt hurt "Ill never make myself vulnerable again" heartbroken FAs that spread this nonsense.
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    So my wife and I went to high school together but we didn't start dating until our second year of college. We got married in 2002, so this year will be our sixteenth wedding anniversary. Contrary to popular belief, we haven't cheated on each other. She hasn't stolen half of my money and I haven't stolen half of hers. We love each other more today than we did fifteen-years ago. (srs)

    How can this be? Aren't all women just sloots who will divorce you and take half your life with them? I see a whole lot of young men with unproductive attitudes toward women hers, so I thought I'd offer my opinion. No need to get all worked up about it as I know some of you will. I acknowledge that it's just an opinion.

    The first major problem I see is that you all look for women online. Just because television commercials and spending too much time in places like this have brainwashed you into thinking that this is a normal way to meet nice women doesn't make it the truth. What kind of women do you expect to meet when you are picking them up on scummy sites like Tinder? Think about it. No wonder some of you think all women are bad. The only ones you try to date are the ones who have to advertise online.

    The second major problem is that most of you guys are far too entrenched in pornography. You guys grew up with it and have been watching that crap for so long that you can't tell the difference between the scum that populate porn hub and people in the real world. Most of you would have no idea how to get a female physically interested in you because again, you are brainwashed by this crap.

    Another one that I see is that many of you have psychological issues with women. Here's a fun fact: They're really not that different than you are. I don't mean that in some weird liberal way. I just mean that if you're a guy who has never and would never cheat on a significant other (you can count me as one of those men), there's women out there like that as well. For various reasons (mother issues, brainwashing from dumb YouTube sources like mgtow, other miscers, etc), many of you seem to think that all women are sluts and they're going to run around behind your back. This is not true. I repeat: This is not true. But you can make it true by way of self-fulfilling prophecy. You attract what you believe about yourself and others. Am I stating that all women are good? Absolutely not. But they're not all bad either. Not even close.

    Here's a crazy idea for some of you: Quit making it your aim to meet women only for one-night stands on Tinder. Meet actual women at college or Starbucks. Walk up to one and meet her. Talk to her like a person (hint: she probably is one). Ask her on an actual date. Seriously, why don't you guys actually try that? Walk up to a young woman and talk to her like a person. If it's a good conversation, ask her if she wants to go on a date. Make it non-creepy and don't try to screw her on the first date. Go to lunch or dinner or something and delete your Tinder app.

    Cliffs
    -Delete Tinder (or whatever app you're using).
    -Meet real women and stop making it your singular goal to have sex on the first date.
    -Quit watching so much porn.
    -Stop believing all the crap you read and see on the Internet. I promise you there are enough good women to go around. You're just attracting all the wrong ones.
    -Go on a date and dress decent. Be a gentleman.
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    Can someone tell me the truth? (srs)
    Are there actually good women or not?
    Women are driven by biological urges (hypergamy).
    Secondly, women will manipulate men.
    If you're good looking, they will manipulate you into sex.
    If you have money, they will manipulate you into marriage.
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    There is no valid or good reason why someone single should delete dating apps.

    Originally Posted by PeterDInga View Post
    Can someone tell me the truth? (srs)
    Are there actually good women or not?
    Women are driven by biological urges (hypergamy).
    Secondly, women will manipulate men.
    If you're good looking, they will manipulate you into sex.
    If you have money, they will manipulate you into marriage.
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    Originally Posted by PeterDInga View Post
    Can someone tell me the truth? (srs)
    Are there actually good women or not?
    Women are driven by biological urges (hypergamy).
    Secondly, women will manipulate men.
    If you're good looking, they will manipulate you into sex.
    If you have money, they will manipulate you into marriage.
    my best advice is to assume all of that is true, then use that knowledge to weed through the garbage women.

    Use that knowledge as power.
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    Originally Posted by PeterDInga View Post
    Can someone tell me the truth? (srs)
    Are there actually good women or not?
    Women are driven by biological urges (hypergamy).
    Secondly, women will manipulate men.
    If you're good looking, they will manipulate you into sex.
    If you have money, they will manipulate you into marriage.
    that kind of mentality is a self-fulfilling prophecy
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    There is no valid or good reason why someone single should delete dating apps.



    Yes there are good women. The challenge is keeping them
    Agreed, good way to eliminate 50% of the dating pool by removing it.
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    The problem with the first part is that a lot of women that you meet in person will also have an online dating profile. It's just so ingrained in our culture that it's really hard to find a girl without one. Even if they barely use it.

    The key to finding a good girl (wherever you happen to meet her) is to see how their home life is. How close their family is and stuff like that.
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    Originally Posted by PeterDInga View Post
    Can someone tell me the truth? (srs)
    Are there actually good women or not?
    Women are driven by biological urges (hypergamy).
    Secondly, women will manipulate men.
    If you're good looking, they will manipulate you into sex.
    If you have money, they will manipulate you into marriage.
    Not true. I have never cheated and I know a few women who have never cheated. Some women cheat often though but its so obvious. The cheaters and gold diggers are obvious. its just men choose not to see their true colours. it seems men make up their minds almost on sight about a womans character sometimes.


    But apparently I am manipulative...dont see how though.
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    Meh, why though?

    Im just going to speak for myself, and give an alternative perspective...

    What's the upside? Ive been in relationships with some good women, and did get engaged to one once. imo there is really nothing that great about it at all. No matter how you slice it, relationships involve a pretty substantial amount of compromise and sacrifice (no matter how "Alpha" you are in the relationship, there is still going to be a lot of BS regardless that you can completely avoid being single). Very little upside, with a whole lot of downside. Its not very gratifying at all and sex is overrated too.

    You want actual camaraderie, emotional bonding, intelligent conversations? That's what good male friends are for - far superior in that regard, without all the additional BS. Sex? Like I said, its very overrated.

    Single? You save A LOT of money, answer to no one (but yourself), do what the hell you want, arent getting bytched at for "not being affectionate enough" or a bajillion other possible things, arent having your time wasted with inane nonsense, the list goes on and on.

    imo the better advice is to disregard sloots. Even good ones dont bring nearly enough to the table to make it worthwhile.


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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Meh, why though?

    Im just going to speak for myself, and give an alternative perspective...

    What's the upside? Ive been in relationships with some good women, and did get engaged to one once. imo there is really nothing that great about it at all. No matter how you slice it, relationships involve a pretty substantial amount of compromise and sacrifice (no matter how "Alpha" you are in the relationship, there is still going to be a lot of BS regardless that you can completely avoid being single). Very little upside, with a whole lot of downside. Its not very gratifying at all and sex is overrated too.

    You want actual camaraderie, emotional bonding, intelligent conversations? That's what good male friends are for - far superior in that regard, without all the additional BS. Sex? Like I said, its very overrated.

    Single? You save A LOT of money, answer to no one (but yourself), do what the hell you want, arent getting bytched at for "not being affectionate enough" or a bajillion other possible things, arent having your time wasted with inane nonsense, the list goes on and on.

    imo the better advice is to disregard sloots. Even good ones dont bring nearly enough to the table to make it worthwhile.


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    You’ve been married since college. How many girls did you date before her?
    Seems like you’re dating experience is almost nothing and yet here you are giving advice on it.
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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Meh, why though?

    Im just going to speak for myself, and give an alternative perspective...
    I mean, good for you if you want to hang around a bunch of dudes. It's your life.

    It sounds like we're just hardwired differently. I'd rather hang around my wife and kids than anyone else.
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    Originally Posted by BetaThanU View Post
    You’ve been married since college. How many girls did you date before her?
    Seems like you’re dating experience is almost nothing and yet here you are giving advice on it.
    Like most typical old guys/people, OP doesn't understand that it's a completely different generation he's talking to.

    Great advice, but it's completely out of touch with modern day reality.
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    Originally Posted by AmIAWizard View Post
    Like most typical old guys/people, OP doesn't understand that it's a completely different generation he's talking to.

    Great advice, but it's completely out of touch with modern day reality.
    I'm old enough for a miscer I guess. I'm 37.

    But I don't think I'm out of touch. On the contrary, as I laid out in my OP, I think typical miscers are brainwashed into thinking people like me are out of touch.
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    Originally Posted by AmIAWizard View Post
    Like most typical old guys/people, OP doesn't understand that it's a completely different generation he's talking to.

    Great advice, but it's completely out of touch with modern day reality.

    came in to say this


    No disrespect OP, but its a different world out there now
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    OP took a position gotta respect that. Too many people that go with whatever is being parroted which in this case is negativity on misc
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    ITT OP travels 15 years into the future to present day to give dating advice.
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    ITT OP brags about being able to get married to a decent quality women "Before Facebook".

    Literally, we don't even need Before and After Christ. We should just restart the timeline again with "After Facebook."
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    Loyalty has nothing to do with generation its about strength of character. That does not vary based on generation but based on the individual. every guy in here knows at least one girl from college etc who is decent. so they should be saying "the girls I'm interested seem to be cheaters or users".
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    Originally Posted by tential View Post
    ITT OP brags about being able to get married to a decent quality women "Before Facebook".

    Literally, we don't even need Before and After Christ. We should just restart the timeline again with "After Facebook."
    Lul we've both had Facebook since like 2007.
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    I appreciate the effort and intent of this post. Been with my wife 11 years, married for 6.

    That said, I’m more of a cynic than you. These young brahs today are screwed. The proliferation and subsuquent mainstream acceptance of Tinder, Netflix and Chill, and other social media “norms” has ruined everything. Not saying that these young guys aren’t just as at fault for participating but morals are gone now. Now it’s completely normal for the entirety of a persons dating life is spamming a few dozen strangers a day the text equivalent of “wanna fuk?” Sex is transactional now and it’s sad.

    The guys who truly want a committed good relationship can achieve it but it’s IMMENSELY harder for them than it was for us.
    I don’t want a large farva, I want a goddamn liter of cola

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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    Lul we've both had Facebook since like 2007.
    Hard to believe 2007 was over 15 years ago.
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    I'm genuinely happy for you OP. And I sincerely hope you live out the rest of your life just as fulfilled.

    There are some really good women out there to be sure. They are very very few and far between nowadays, and that trend is only getting worse. This combined with family court just makes the whole enterprise super risky.

    What if we were about to go skydiving, a super thrilling and fulfilling experience for some, but there's one catch. 50% of the parachutes will fail. There are 20 for us to choose from. So 10 of them are going to not open as we are plummeting to Earth. Furthermore, of those 10, only two of them look really frayed and beat to sh!t with warning stickers on them (meaning we obviously wouldn't choose those ones). The remaining 18 all look identical, 8 of them just won't open.

    We still going skydiving?
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    Lul we've both had Facebook since like 2007.
    Congrats on getting married before Facebook!

    Most of us didn't have that opportunity.
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