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    Hello,

    I am 20 years old, 1.75m (5'9) and 68kg (150lbs) skinny with some fat. I ran Starting Strength for one month and i would like to switch to a hypertrophy routine. My lifts are: Squat: 3x5 170lbs, Bench: 3x5 105lbs and Deadlift 1x5 225lbs.

    I'm thinking about switching to Viking's U/L or Candito's Strength/Hypertrophy U/L. I'd choose ICF 5x5 but due to the very aggressive progression, i might not be able to deal with it while doing a clean bulk of 100-200cal surplus. Which one to choose?

    Viking's U/L:

    Upper Day 1
    Bench Press - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Barbell Row - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Military Press - 3 sets - 25 reps
    Wide-grip Pulldowns or Pullups - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Incline DB Press - 3 sets - 30 reps
    One-arm Cable or DB Rows - 3 sets - 30 reps 
    Straight-arm Pulldowns/Facepulls - 3 supersets - 30 reps each

    Lower Day 1
    Back Squat - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Deadlift - 2 sets - 12 reps
    or
    Romanian DL - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Hack Squat - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Lying Leg Curls - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Single-leg Leg Press - 3 sets - 35 reps
    Abs/Calves Superset - 3 sets each - 40 reps each

    Upper Day 2
    Bench Press - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Barbell Row - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Military Press - 3 sets - 25 reps
    Wide-grip Pulldowns or Pullups - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Lateral Raises/Barbell Shrugs - 3 supersets - 30 reps each
    Barbell Curl/Skullcrushers - 3 supersets - 30 reps each
    Overhead Cable Extensions/Cable Hammer Curls - 3 supersets - 35 reps each

    Lower Day 2
    Back Squat - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Romanian DL - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Leg Press - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Leg Extensions/Leg Curls - 3 supersets - 35 reps each
    Abs/Calves Superset - 3 sets each - 40 reps each


    Candito's Strength/Hypertrophy routine:

    - Monday ­ Heavy Lower Day
    Squat ­ 3 sets x 6 reps
    Deadlift ­ 2 sets x 6 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 3 sets x 8­-12 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 3 sets x 8­-12 reps

    - Tuesday ­ Heavy Upper Day
    Bench Press ­ 3 sets x 6 reps
    Primary Upper Back Exercise ­ 3 sets x 6 reps
    Shoulder Exercise ­ 1 set x 6
    Upper Back Exercise #2 ­ 1 set x 6
    Optional Exercise ­ 3 sets x 8-­12 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 3 sets x 8-­12 reps

    - Thursday ­ Hypertrophy Lower
    Either Back Squat Or Front Squat ­ 5 sets x 8 reps
    Deadlift Variation ­ 3 sets x 8 reps
    Hamstring Curl ­ 3 sets x 12 reps
    Calf Raise ­ 5 sets x 15 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 4 sets x 8-­12 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 4 sets x 8­-12 reps

    - Friday ­ Hypertrophy Upper
    Chest Press (flat or decline) ­ 4 sets x 8 reps
    Incline Chest Press ­ 4 sets x 8 reps
    Upper Back Exercise #1 ­ 4 sets x 8 reps
    Upper Back Exercise #2 ­ 4 sets x 8 reps
    Shoulder Exercise ­ 3 sets x 10 reps
    Bicep Exercise ­ 3 sets x 10 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 4 sets x 8-­12 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 4 sets x 8-­12 reps

    I apologize for any language mistakes i've done,English is not my mother tongue.

    Thank you.
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    Out of the two I’d take the bottom one. The top routine has crazy high reps I couldn’t deal with that.

    Canditos is a good routine and I’ve seen good results from it
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    Viking's routine doesn't have crazy reps. What you see is the total reps for each exercise.

    Have you done the Candito's routine to bulk?
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    Originally Posted by RF4E View Post
    Hello,

    I am 20 years old, 1.75m (5'9) and 68kg (150lbs) skinny with some fat. I ran Starting Strength for one month and i would like to switch to a hypertrophy routine. My lifts are: Squat: 3x5 170lbs, Bench: 3x5 105lbs and Deadlift 1x5 225lbs.

    I'm thinking about switching to Viking's U/L or Candito's Strength/Hypertrophy U/L. I'd choose ICF 5x5 but due to the very aggressive progression, i might not be able to deal with it while doing a clean bulk of 100-200cal surplus. Which one to choose?

    Viking's U/L:

    Upper Day 1
    Bench Press - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Barbell Row - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Military Press - 3 sets - 25 reps
    Wide-grip Pulldowns or Pullups - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Incline DB Press - 3 sets - 30 reps
    One-arm Cable or DB Rows - 3 sets - 30 reps 
    Straight-arm Pulldowns/Facepulls - 3 supersets - 30 reps each

    Lower Day 1
    Back Squat - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Deadlift - 2 sets - 12 reps
    or
    Romanian DL - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Hack Squat - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Lying Leg Curls - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Single-leg Leg Press - 3 sets - 35 reps
    Abs/Calves Superset - 3 sets each - 40 reps each

    Upper Day 2
    Bench Press - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Barbell Row - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Military Press - 3 sets - 25 reps
    Wide-grip Pulldowns or Pullups - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Lateral Raises/Barbell Shrugs - 3 supersets - 30 reps each
    Barbell Curl/Skullcrushers - 3 supersets - 30 reps each
    Overhead Cable Extensions/Cable Hammer Curls - 3 supersets - 35 reps each

    Lower Day 2
    Back Squat - 4 sets - 32 reps
    Romanian DL - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Leg Press - 3 sets - 30 reps
    Leg Extensions/Leg Curls - 3 supersets - 35 reps each
    Abs/Calves Superset - 3 sets each - 40 reps each


    Candito's Strength/Hypertrophy routine:

    - Monday ­ Heavy Lower Day
    Squat ­ 3 sets x 6 reps
    Deadlift ­ 2 sets x 6 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 3 sets x 8­-12 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 3 sets x 8­-12 reps

    - Tuesday ­ Heavy Upper Day
    Bench Press ­ 3 sets x 6 reps
    Primary Upper Back Exercise ­ 3 sets x 6 reps
    Shoulder Exercise ­ 1 set x 6
    Upper Back Exercise #2 ­ 1 set x 6
    Optional Exercise ­ 3 sets x 8-­12 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 3 sets x 8-­12 reps

    - Thursday ­ Hypertrophy Lower
    Either Back Squat Or Front Squat ­ 5 sets x 8 reps
    Deadlift Variation ­ 3 sets x 8 reps
    Hamstring Curl ­ 3 sets x 12 reps
    Calf Raise ­ 5 sets x 15 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 4 sets x 8-­12 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 4 sets x 8­-12 reps

    - Friday ­ Hypertrophy Upper
    Chest Press (flat or decline) ­ 4 sets x 8 reps
    Incline Chest Press ­ 4 sets x 8 reps
    Upper Back Exercise #1 ­ 4 sets x 8 reps
    Upper Back Exercise #2 ­ 4 sets x 8 reps
    Shoulder Exercise ­ 3 sets x 10 reps
    Bicep Exercise ­ 3 sets x 10 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 4 sets x 8-­12 reps
    Optional Exercise ­ 4 sets x 8-­12 reps

    I apologize for any language mistakes i've done,English is not my mother tongue.

    Thank you.
    I do max reps of 5 :/ so neither? If you have to pick one do the lower one, less reps especially if ur lifts are that low

    I aplolgize 4 ny mestakes I make english is the language of my mom
    Bench: 205

    Squat: 275

    Deadlift: 325

    Weight: 158 LB
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