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    ★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2018 ★

    Now that basketball is over....time for the 2 months of desolation before football starts again known as "there's baseball on but nobody cares"

    Quick thoughts
    1. QB is deep as ever. Already have 1-3 QBs I'd love to have late in the draft but I feel like the "draft a QB late" strat is pretty much standard now
    2. Lots of question marks at RB after the first two rounds. Sure there's a ton of potentially good backs but you'll probably want a half dozen of them just to see which ones will hit
    2a. Would love a top 5 pick this year to take from Gurley/Bell/Elliott/Brown/DJ. After that it's a bit murky
    3. Tom Brady is still the GOAT
    4. LeBron to the Lakers

    6/11 top 12 rankings for the first round
    1. Todd Gurley
    2. Le'Veon Bell
    3. David Johnson
    4. Antonio Brown
    5. Zeke Elliott

    6. DeAndre Hopkins
    7. Kareem Hunt
    8. Alvin Kamara
    9. Melvin Gordon
    10. Julio Jones
    11. Michael Thomas
    12. Keenan Allen

    Notable FA moves/trades
    -Brandin Cooks to the Rams
    -Jerrick McKinnon to the 49ers
    -Dion Lewis to the Titans
    -Jarvis Landry to the Browns
    -Kirk Cousins to the Vikings
    -Michael Crabtree to the Ravens
    -Jordy Nelson to the Raiders
    -CJ Anderson to the Panthers
    -Isaiah Crowell to the Jets
    -Trey Burton to the Bears
    -Alex Smith to the Redskins
    -Carlos Hyde to the Browns
    -Martavis Bryant to the Raiders
    -Jimmy Graham to the Packers
    -Dez Bryant to the couch

    Notable newbies
    -RB Saquon Barkley (NYG)
    -RB Derrius Grice (WAS)
    -WR Calvin Ridley (ATL)
    -WR DJ Moore (ATL)
    -TE Hayden Hurst (BAL)
    -RB Rashaad Penny (SEA)
    -RB Ronald Jones II (TB)
    -RB Sony Michel (NE)
    -RB Royce Freeman (DEN)
    -RB Nick Chubb (CLE)

    Bounce back candidates
    -David Johnson
    -Dalvin Cook
    -Mike Evans
    -Josh Gordon
    -Carson Wentz/Deshaun Watson
    -TY Hilton
    -Amari Cooper
    -Andrew Luck??
    -Ty Montgomery

    Bust candidates
    -LeSean McCoy
    -Jordan Howard
    -Allen Robinson
    -Jay Ajayi
    -Lamar Miller
    -Brandin Cooks
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    INNN, 1rd. Excited to see what the 49ers can pull off this year, lots of new adjustments from last season.
    Non-FF - Excited to see what Jimmy G can do in a full season. McKinnon should be an upgrade over Hyde. Might even go to a game this year

    FF - Jimmy G is ranked too high IMO for what his upside is. McKinnon might be worth drafting. Goodwin could be a sneaky WR3 or a low end WR2

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    Personally I was rooting for the Celtics and the Rockets in the CFs but that all fell apart in one weekend in almost identical manners :/
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    I agree with you about Jimmy G. I think he's going to do well, and win, but I don't think its going to carry to fantasy land. He won't be putting up 300/3TDs a game. As far as fantasy production, I'd compare to maybe last year Case Keenum. Good for a solid 15, occasional 25+

    EDIT: Also think Watson comes back to earth. That run he had was insane, and not sustainable. Coming off injury, I think he will get over drafted for sure (still produce well however, just not 3-5TDs per game)
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    I agree with you about Jimmy G. I think he's going to do well, and win, but I don't think its going to carry to fantasy land. He won't be putting up 300/3TDs a game. As far as fantasy production, I'd compare to maybe last year Case Keenum. Good for a solid 15, occasional 25+

    EDIT: Also think Watson comes back to earth. That run he had was insane, and not sustainable. Coming off injury, I think he will get over drafted for sure (still produce well however, just not 3-5TDs per game)
    Agreed on both points. The niners offense should be better than it was without Jimmy G but yeah I think 15 points a game is a good avg to expect from him. Right now Jimmy G (64) is ranked higher than Carson Wentz (68), Jared Goff (86), and Kirk Cousins (71) while being just 1 lower than Cam Newton. (Yahoo ranks)

    I was reading a FBG article about most overvalued QBs and Watson was smack dab at the top of the list, here are some of the comments

    It was fun when Watson set the world on fire in limited action as a rookie. And it's undeniable his ability to produce fantasy points with his legs makes him more or less bust-proof (injuries notwithstanding). But how on earth are people considering drafting him in the same range as Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson, when he's coming off his second ACL tear in three years (separate knees) and a season in which he posted an entirely unsustainable 9.3% touchdown rate? As long as encouraging reports continue on his knee, Watson will be fine as an every-week fantasy starter. Just don't reach for him ahead of early-round running backs and wide receivers expecting the same once-in-a-lifetime results we saw last year
    Watson was a shooting star in his half-season-ish of rookie season production, logging numbers first-year quarterbacks only dream about. Watson's efficiency was off the charts in terms of touchdown rate and yards per attempt. Watson also added Cam Newton-like rushing production en route to his elite fantasy numbers. However, it is worth noting Watson did have the typical rookie growing pains in terms of interception rate and sack rate, both well above the NFL average. The biggest concern with Watson is his ADP represents having to shoot the needle again on the perfect fantasy season to justify the cost of going quarterback early compared to other positions, where the drop off is more substantial by the later rounds.
    I think he's a really fun players to watch and he elevates the entire HOU offense but in terms of value I'd rather have a later round guy than him
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    welcome back gents

    early random thoughts
    -Mitch Trubisky the new Goff/Wentz hot ticket late QB?
    -Odell best WR overall?
    -David Johnson most fascinating pick in R1 IMO
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    Yesssssss

    Keeper question. In my league no one can keep anyone drafted in the first 2 rounds of the previous year. I have 1st pick and i get to keep DJ for a 5th round pick. My keepers will probably be

    DJ - 5th
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    Do i grab a stud WR like hopkins or get dat 1/2 stud RB with gurley and DJ?
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    Originally Posted by Murph0408 View Post
    welcome back gents

    early random thoughts
    -Mitch Trubisky the new Goff/Wentz hot ticket late QB?
    -Odell best WR overall?
    -David Johnson most fascinating pick in R1 IMO
    Hey Murph, glad to see you back for another year

    Mitch - they definitely upgraded his weapons this year (+Arob, +Gabriel, +Burton, +Miller, +maybe healthy White?) Should see more Cohen this year. I'm not a bears fan and didn't watch many games but maybe? I'd probably put him on the lower end of the QB spectrum still though

    Lol @ Odell

    I think Kamara is the most fascinating pick in R1, but curious to why you think DJ is. I mean he's the best bet to hit 2k rush/receiving and coming off a wrist injury that doesn't look like it has any lingering effects

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    Yesssssss

    Keeper question. In my league no one can keep anyone drafted in the first 2 rounds of the previous year. I have 1st pick and i get to keep DJ for a 5th round pick. My keepers will probably be

    DJ - 5th
    Ertz-7th
    Diggs-8th
    Juju-14th
    Collins-15th

    Do i grab a stud WR like hopkins or get dat 1/2 stud RB with gurley and DJ?
    Sup dhawk

    Gurley + DJ = hnnnnng

    Diggs + JuJu makes for an okay WR corps with Collins @ flex. Would probably take a WR after that and then load up the RB backups

    Pretty nice keepers brah mirin
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    I also think Kamara is a really interesting round 1 pick. Can he sustain the production? Will the work load start tilting in his favor? Didn't he average something like 6-7yds per touch last year?
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    I think Kamara is the most fascinating pick in R1, but curious to why you think DJ is. I mean he's the best bet to hit 2k rush/receiving and coming off a wrist injury that doesn't look like it has any lingering effects
    hey

    DJ was just one of the best fantasy guys we've ever seen 2 years ago. at the same time his team is doing a reboot at QB and his coach retired. the upside is incredible and i'd be genuinely tempted to take him as the top dog, even over gurley.
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    hey

    DJ was just one of the best fantasy guys we've ever seen 2 years ago. at the same time his team is doing a reboot at QB and his coach retired. the upside is incredible and i'd be genuinely tempted to take him as the top dog, even over gurley.
    I'd have no hesitation taking DJ #1 overall either. Wasn't a knee injury or anything. Cards got better at QB regardless of who starts IMO. Palmer was a shell of himself.
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    Originally Posted by yuja View Post
    Hey Murph, glad to see you back for another year

    Mitch - they definitely upgraded his weapons this year (+Arob, +Gabriel, +Burton, +Miller, +maybe healthy White?) Should see more Cohen this year. I'm not a bears fan and didn't watch many games but maybe? I'd probably put him on the lower end of the QB spectrum still though

    Lol @ Odell

    I think Kamara is the most fascinating pick in R1, but curious to why you think DJ is. I mean he's the best bet to hit 2k rush/receiving and coming off a wrist injury that doesn't look like it has any lingering effects



    Sup dhawk

    Gurley + DJ = hnnnnng

    Diggs + JuJu makes for an okay WR corps with Collins @ flex. Would probably take a WR after that and then load up the RB backups

    Pretty nice keepers brah mirin
    Its PPR which is why im kinda thinking hopking/dj but i feel like wr is deep and my keepers are pretty good i can still find WR1 talent at the 2/3 turn with back to back picks
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    I also think Kamara is a really interesting round 1 pick. Can he sustain the production? Will the work load start tilting in his favor? Didn't he average something like 6-7yds per touch last year?
    he kinda scares me to take super early this year. remember though, mark ingram is out first few games. might help.

    although frankly the real money choice might be ingram instead. he'll go cheap and he was super productive even with kamara blowing up every week.
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    Its PPR which is why im kinda thinking hopking/dj but i feel like wr is deep and my keepers are pretty good i can still find WR1 talent at the 2/3 turn with back to back picks
    Gurley had 78 catches last year, it's not like he can't catch the ball

    in fact, the top RBs all have pretty good hands
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    Originally Posted by yuja View Post
    Non-FF - Excited to see what Jimmy G can do in a full season. McKinnon should be an upgrade over Hyde. Might even go to a game this year

    FF - Jimmy G is ranked too high IMO for what his upside is. McKinnon might be worth drafting. Goodwin could be a sneaky WR3 or a low end WR2
    I'll get you back when im off spread, i don't rep enough lol. But I agree, i'm not sold on his FF value quite yet, but non FF I think we look so much better as a team this year. Also eager to see how Richard Sherman performs.
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    So since this thread finally popped up, I'll post a draft I already did. Yes, I know. It's early as fuk, but this particular guy hosts tons of drafts every and spreads them out. Just so happens I jumped in an early one the past few years. Makes it interesting come camp time hoping nobody gets injured.

    Anyway here is where I came in. Had 2nd pick in a 10 team PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 W/R/T, 1 DEF, 6 bench.

    QB - Watson, Stafford
    RB - Bell, Howard, Ajayi, Mack
    WR - Adams, Fitz, Landry, C. Davis, K. Benjamin, Nelson
    TE - Reed, Njoku
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    I think David Johnson wont be in the top 5 rb conversation this year with his new coach/shaky QB situation.

    that offense is going to be anemic
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    Originally Posted by reverse79 View Post

    that offense is going to be anemic
    This is exactly why he's valuable. His workload will be insane because there is no one else as talented as him. He will definitely break 2000 scrimmage yds. TDs may be a different story though.
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    Originally Posted by bullybreed View Post
    So since this thread finally popped up, I'll post a draft I already did. Yes, I know. It's early as fuk, but this particular guy hosts tons of drafts every and spreads them out. Just so happens I jumped in an early one the past few years. Makes it interesting come camp time hoping nobody gets injured.

    Anyway here is where I came in. Had 2nd pick in a 10 team PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 W/R/T, 1 DEF, 6 bench.

    QB - Watson, Stafford
    RB - Bell, Howard, Ajayi, Mack
    WR - Adams, Fitz, Landry, C. Davis, K. Benjamin, Nelson
    TE - Reed, Njoku
    DEF - Chicago (Stream most of the year unless I latch on to a good one)
    ugh on Nelson, Ajayi, and Reed. Stafford will throw for 5k yards and 30 td's this year
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    Yesssssss

    Keeper question. In my league no one can keep anyone drafted in the first 2 rounds of the previous year. I have 1st pick and i get to keep DJ for a 5th round pick. My keepers will probably be

    DJ - 5th
    Ertz-7th
    Diggs-8th
    Juju-14th
    Collins-15th

    Do i grab a stud WR like hopkins or get dat 1/2 stud RB with gurley and DJ?
    How did you get DJ in the 5th round? He was #1 overall in every draft last year. Strong potato league. LOL.
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    ugh on Nelson, Ajayi, and Reed. Stafford will throw for 5k yards and 30 td's this year
    stafford is a strong dependable QB but what makes you think he's having basically a career year at those stats? he hit 5k many moons ago but unless they threw calvin johnson in a time machine and brought him back i don't see why he'd suddenly get there again

    his last 5 years have been consistently mid/low 4k yards and mid/high 20's TDs. i'm just curious why you think he'd be any different this year.
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    yuja, you running the misc league again?

    Also, I'm thinking Hopkins > Brown this season. No thanks on Julio in the first round, same with Hunt.
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