Garlic + Vitamin C increase Nitric Oxide?

[TheFugitive]

Has anyone had any success with this combo?

Six subjects with marginally elevated blood pressure in the range of 140/90 were assigned to take placebo for 10 days. After a one week washout period they then took vitamin C 2,000 mg. daily for 10 days. After one week of further washout the six were then given 650 mg. daily of garlic tablets for 10 days. After the last washout, garlic and vitamin C were then given another 10 days. The vitamin C apparently did not have any effect on blood pressure. The garlic did result in a lowering of systolic but not diastolic pressure. However when both vitamin C and garlic were given together mean systolic and diastolic pressures were reduced to 110-120 and 75-80. The blood pressure increased when the combined supplement was stopped. The authors of the study suggested that garlic and vitamin C increases production of nitric oxide by about 300% which positively affects the inner lining of blood vessel cell walls.

https://www.deepdyve.com/lp/elsevier...-in-ZgYvrPz9tr

https://www.anabolicmen.com/garlic-and-vitamin-c/

[eatyourspinach]

you mean pre workout or just in general?

[TheFugitive]

you mean pre workout or just in general?

Pre-workout, but it sounds like it could be beneficial for daily use

[eatyourspinach]

Pre-workout, but it sounds like it could be beneficial for daily use

2g of vitamin C pre workout wouldn't be ideal since it's an antioxidant

[Risen25]

I have experimented with this a while back, garlic itself is very rich in vitamin c , so I fail to see the need for even more unless your diet in general is bad. My main reason for taking however was for the anti-oxidant properties of Allicin. This "cleansing" of free radicals and is supposed to be beneficial to the endocrine system. I cant say much for what i experienced anything life changing however my diet is pretty good. I think YES is you are deficient in your diet , it will definitely assist in more ways than a Nitric Oxide boost.

I definitely lowers blood pressure though, I was reading up o this i remember seeing cautions of using it with aspirin or beta blockers due to the fact that these meds already lower blood pressure

[OldGamesBetter]

garlic is magic

[TheFugitive]

2g of vitamin C pre workout wouldn't be ideal since it's an antioxidant

yea, I wouldnt do this

Lulz

[powercage]

Lulz

there are simply better ways to stimulate NO production without the side effects preworkout

[TheFugitive]

there are simply better ways to stimulate NO production without the side effects preworkout

We both know this, but have you tried this combo?

[BULLED]

We both know this, but have you tried this combo?

I'm afraid he wouldn't do that That's a shame though, imagine that new avi with all the veins popping out (no homo).

[powercage]

We both know this, but have you tried this combo?

I have not. I tend not to go over 500mg of Vit C at one time since that generally allows you to reach plasma saturation (and only then when I think there may be a chance of getting sick)

I dont supplement C anyway, normally. I do use Aged Garlic regularly.

[fahdalsheheata]

2g of vitamin C pre workout wouldn't be ideal since it's an antioxidant

Is antioxidant bad before working out?

[eatyourspinach]

Is antioxidant bad before working out?

exercise is a form of oxidative stress, you want your body to adapt to it rather than counteract it with excessive antioxidants

[JoeCannonMSCSCS]

Just because the combo raised nitric oxide does not mean it will make you stronger or bigger in the gym.

Joe

[TheFugitive]

Just because the combo raised nitric oxide does not mean it will make you stronger or bigger in the gym.

Joe

Stronger is not the topic

[TheFugitive]

exercise is a form of oxidative stress, you want your body to adapt to it rather than counteract it with excessive antioxidants

There is just as many positives as negatives.

A quick search on Vitamin C:

Vitamin C is required for the growth and repair of tissues in all parts of your body. It is used to form collagen, a protein used to make skin, scar tissue, tendons, ligaments, and blood vessels. ... For male athletes, Vitamin C will keep testosterone levels high by supporting a lower ratio of cortisol to testosterone

Interesting articles on Vit C

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vit...to-succeed.htm

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform3.htm

[eatyourspinach]

There is just as many positives as negatives.

A quick search on Vitamin C:

Vitamin C is required for the growth and repair of tissues in all parts of your body. It is used to form collagen, a protein used to make skin, scar tissue, tendons, ligaments, and blood vessels. ... For male athletes, Vitamin C will keep testosterone levels high by supporting a lower ratio of cortisol to testosterone

A. This leaves us with a net positive of 0
B. Protein with a full amino acid profile is more important for restorative properties
3. In regards to the OP why would you want to lower BP before working out?

[OT2000]

I hate commenting in your threads Fug...


But...


I have used both of these in high amounts mainly for health reasons. I did not notice any change in my workouts and/or even lipid profile. Mind you, I have always had a good lipid profile over the last few years so there may not be too much there.

Prior to a workout, you should not be taking either. First, pre workout ingredients should be taken on as much of an empty stomach as possible and both of these will cause heavy gi distress under that condition. Even buffered can regardless of advertisers.

Garlic for health such is kyolic is fine, some vC is fine but I doubt you will notice anything beyond a few hundred mgs except diarrhea. Take them both with a meal.

[TheFugitive]

A. This leaves us with a net positive of 0
B. Protein with a full amino acid profile is more important for restorative properties
3. In regards to the OP why would you want to lower BP before working out?

I hate commenting in your threads Fug...


But...


I have used both of these in high amounts mainly for health reasons. I did not notice any change in my workouts and/or even lipid profile. Mind you, I have always had a good lipid profile over the last few years so there may not be too much there.

Prior to a workout, you should not be taking either. First, pre workout ingredients should be taken on as much of an empty stomach as possible and both of these will cause heavy gi distress under that condition. Even buffered can regardless of advertisers.

Garlic for health such is kyolic is fine, some vC is fine but I doubt you will notice anything beyond a few hundred mgs except diarrhea. Take them both with a meal.

Guys,

I asked if anyone used this combo. I haven't and I'm not defending it. The claims interested me, that is all

[TheFugitive]

A. This leaves us with a net positive of 0
B. Protein with a full amino acid profile is more important for restorative properties
3. In regards to the OP why would you want to lower BP before working out?

Do you use any type of pump product prior to training?

[OT2000]

Guys,

I asked if anyone used this combo. I haven't and I'm not defending it. The claims interested me, that is all

I hate commenting in your threads Fug...


But...


I have used both of these in high amounts mainly for health reasons. I did not notice any change in my workouts and/or even lipid profile. Mind you, I have always had a good lipid profile over the last few years so there may not be too much there.

Prior to a workout, you should not be taking either. First, pre workout ingredients should be taken on as much of an empty stomach as possible and both of these will cause heavy gi distress under that condition. Even buffered can regardless of advertisers.

Garlic for health such is kyolic is fine, some vC is fine but I doubt you will notice anything beyond a few hundred mgs except diarrhea. Take them both with a meal.

What am I missing here? You asked so I gave you an honest answer without bashing your thread. Slow your damn defense

[TheFugitive]

What am I missing here? You asked so I gave you an honest answer without bashing your thread. Slow your damn defense

Thanks for your response. One member (OT2000) has tried this combo with no changes, anyone else?

My threads seem to elevate BP

[VaughnTrue]

last week i had a glass of orange juice and some heavily garlic seasoned pasta about 90 mins pre-wo.


felt like a damn champion.


Mr. Olympia here I come.

[lucia316]

last week i had a glass of orange juice and some heavily garlic seasoned pasta about 90 mins pre-wo.


felt like a damn champion.


Mr. Olympia here I come.

FEELZ CONFIRMED BY Vaughn. /thread?

[eatyourspinach]

Do you use any type of pump product prior to training?

Yes, MTS Vasky.

[TheFugitive]

Yes, MTS Vasky.

Wouldn't that lower your BP?

[eatyourspinach]

Wouldn't that lower your BP?

Nitrosigine has no effect http://www.nutraceuticalsworld.com/c...d-pressure/991

[aaronuconn]

last week i had a glass of orange juice and some heavily garlic seasoned pasta about 90 mins pre-wo.


felt like a damn champion.


Mr. Olympia here I come.

Seek advice from Powercage on best toothpaste/mouthwash to use after that meal

[compan]

Nitrosigine has no effect http://www.nutraceuticalsworld.com/c...d-pressure/991

Did you feel it had no effect?

[eatyourspinach]

Did you feel it had no effect?

no but it's not Chromadex verified so who knows what I'm taking