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    Originally Posted by poison View Post
    White Flash looks bomb.
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    OP I have enjoyed these pre workouts a lot and would definitely recommend them.

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    thanks for the white flash support guys
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    Originally Posted by thedarce View Post
    been a while guys, sorta fell out of the loop. getting back to a normal routine where the gym fits into my schedule. which leads me to looking for a new pre workout. what's the best? is 1,3 still around? ideally looking for a stim/nootropic pre workout since my workout sessions are at 5AM.
    This is my preworkout.

    I take Kaged Muscle Purcaf Caffeine pills. I break open one of the pills and pour it in a water bottle. I then sip on it for like 4 hours for sustained energy.

    That's it.

    It's organic caffeine powder extracted from green coffee beans.
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    What happened to white pump? That had me lifting way heavier in the gym
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    Originally Posted by OxbowSky View Post
    What happened to white pump? That had me lifting way heavier in the gym
    discontinued long ago. have you tried white flash?
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    Originally Posted by OxbowSky View Post
    What happened to white pump? That had me lifting way heavier in the gym
    White Flash is in a whole other league
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    Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    discontinued long ago. have you tried white flash?
    No I haven't, i've been out of working out for a few years. I filled out the form for the new CL samples so hoping to try it out, however is it more like white flood or white pump? I've never had a pre sup do what white pump did for me.
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    Originally Posted by OxbowSky View Post
    No I haven't, i've been out of working out for a few years. I filled out the form for the new CL samples so hoping to try it out, however is it more like white flood or white pump? I've never had a pre sup do what white pump did for me.
    The benefits from White Flash are far superior.

    Best pre CL has ever put out by far, and arguably the best on the market.
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    Originally Posted by OxbowSky View Post
    No I haven't, i've been out of working out for a few years. I filled out the form for the new CL samples so hoping to try it out, however is it more like white flood or white pump? I've never had a pre sup do what white pump did for me.
    Compared to White Flood, White Flash provides a crazier pump and vascularity. The focus of White Flash is better than White Flood and is one of the best pres in terms of focus that i've experienced.

    Energy is about the same in terms of the smoothness, nothing dramatic or over the top.
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    LIT from Beyond Raw. Icy Fireworks flavor. Best tasting pwo I've ever had and love the energy. It doesn't make you want to run through a wall but it's a good sustained energy that I can usually still feel a little at the end of the workout. Makes it easier to workout longer and push yourself a little further.
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    Originally Posted by OxbowSky View Post
    No I haven't, i've been out of working out for a few years. I filled out the form for the new CL samples so hoping to try it out, however is it more like white flood or white pump? I've never had a pre sup do what white pump did for me.
    unfortunately we do not have white flash samples

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    White Flash is the best available. Quickly took over NutraBio's pre as my favorite.

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    Originally Posted by thedarce View Post
    got me a tub of white flash will report back!
    Should have went with them BANG or C4 rtd.. love that damn carbonation!!

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    No one ever used pre-works about 15 years ago, why start now. To be honest it's more of a mental thing. Once you buy your first pre-workout you are hooked, then you feel the need to HAVE to have it for a good workout. This is how the supp companies make their money. I believe in supplements but not a pre-workout, it's a bunch of BS.
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    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    No one ever used pre-works about 15 years ago
    yes they did, theyve been used extensively since the 90s in their current forms (almost 30 years). Prior to that, for decades, guys were using caffeine in combo with many other stimulants (ephedra, amphetamines etc)

    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    Should have went with them BANG or C4 rtd.. love that damn carbonation!!

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    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    No one ever used pre-works about 15 years ago, why start now. To be honest it's more of a mental thing. Once you buy your first pre-workout you are hooked, then you feel the need to HAVE to have it for a good workout. This is how the supp companies make their money. I believe in supplements but not a pre-workout, it's a bunch of BS.
    People have been taking stimulants or whatever else pre workout for a long time.

    If you really don't want to spend the money you can always go with nothing, or with caffeine tabs, or caffeine and bulk citrulline, or coffee, for little money.

    Me...the pre workouts help and have always been worth it. Granted, I buy and open way too many at once lol
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    People have been taking stimulants or whatever else pre workout for a long time.

    If you really don't want to spend the money you can always go with nothing, or with caffeine tabs, or caffeine and bulk citrulline, or coffee, for little money.

    Me...the pre workouts help and have always been worth it. Granted, I buy and open way too many at once lol
    LMAO same. I have five pre's open in my cabinet right now. I usually just grab one at random.
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    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    No one ever used pre-works about 15 years ago, why start now. To be honest it's more of a mental thing. Once you buy your first pre-workout you are hooked, then you feel the need to HAVE to have it for a good workout. This is how the supp companies make their money. I believe in supplements but not a pre-workout, it's a bunch of BS.
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    Personally, all I want is caffeine, citrulline, taurine, and beta alanine. And cheap and taste good.

    I like bodybuilding.com signature pre. I add a little extra bulk cit and BA. Works for me.
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    Personally, all I want is caffeine, citrulline, taurine, and beta alanine. And cheap and taste good.

    I like bodybuilding.com signature pre. I add a little extra bulk cit and BA. Works for me.
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    White Flash is in a whole other league
    Yep with 300mg caffeine way to go CL! If you are stim sensitive this svcks!

    Mesomorph at 1/3 a scoop has this beat easily for me.
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    Originally Posted by ubernoob View Post
    Yep with 300mg caffeine way to go CL! If you are stim sensitive this svcks!

    Mesomorph at 1/3 a scoop has this beat easily for me.
    That's probably the dumbest comparison I've seen on the boards yet.

    For one, the theanine tempers the jitters and issues people have with caffeine.

    And 2, you are comparing a third of a scoop vs an entire scoop of another. If you are that sensitive to stims, half scoop it? You'd still get more ergogenic actives. Not sure why you would ever think 1/3 of a scoop of a prop blend is somehow comparable to a full scoop of a properly dosed open label.
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    Seriously and you’re a dentist, I’m comparing a 1/3 scoop to a 1/3 scoop. Let’s compare apples to apples and I don’t give 2 cents about the additives as I have my own mix that I do that is far much cheaper than your product. If I wanted that much caffeine I will just pop some pills and yet I can still have a better pre than yours. I love mesomorph for the focus, the other stuff is just extra, feels similar to OG craze. I expected more from you cage, disappointed to say the least.

    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    That's probably the dumbest comparison I've seen on the boards yet.

    For one, the theanine tempers the jitters and issues people have with caffeine.

    And 2, you are comparing a third of a scoop vs an entire scoop of another. If you are that sensitive to stims, half scoop it? You'd still get more ergogenic actives. Not sure why you would ever think 1/3 of a scoop of a prop blend is somehow comparable to a full scoop of a properly dosed open label.
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    No one ever used pre-works about 15 years ago, why start now. To be honest it's more of a mental thing. Once you buy your first pre-workout you are hooked, then you feel the need to HAVE to have it for a good workout. This is how the supp companies make their money. I believe in supplements but not a pre-workout, it's a bunch of BS.
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    Originally Posted by ubernoob View Post
    Seriously and you’re a dentist, I’m comparing a 1/3 scoop to a 1/3 scoop. Let’s compare apples to apples and I don’t give 2 cents about the additives as I have my own mix that I do that is far much cheaper than your product. If I wanted that much caffeine I will just pop some pills and yet I can still have a better pre than yours. I love mesomorph for the focus, the other stuff is just extra, feels similar to OG craze. I expected more from you cage, disappointed to say the least.
    if you have your own mix you dont need a pre

    Even if you are stim sensitive 1/3 of a scoop would be minimal with the theanine. Your comment makes no sense
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...

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