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    ^^^ Nice.

    I don't own a Saturn. But I have debated installing a mod chip in one of my Gamecubes.
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    Originally Posted by jason_bh View Post
    ^^^ Nice.

    I don't own a Saturn. But I have debated installing a mod chip in one of my Gamecubes.
    I'll eventually get to do stuff on my GameCube and N64. One of the things I REALLY want to do is the N64 HDMI mod. GameCube also has an HDMI mod, I might do that as well as the modchip.
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    When you all play on original hardware, do you still have CRTs lying around? Or do you use newer cable solutions to hook up to more modern TVs? I'm assuming that finding CRTs this day is probably not worth, as they've probably mostly broken down and/or are overpriced by collectors if they're the nicer PVM models. Been wanting to play on some original hardware for some reason lately. But I have also been emulating more.
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    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    When you all play on original hardware, do you still have CRTs lying around? Or do you use newer cable solutions to hook up to more modern TVs? I'm assuming that finding CRTs this day is probably not worth, as they've probably mostly broken down and/or are overpriced by collectors if they're the nicer PVM models. Been wanting to play on some original hardware for some reason lately. But I have also been emulating more.
    I play the older systems on a CRT. They’re actually pretty easy to find. I’ve picked up a couple on ******** marketplace. They can be found really cheap or even free a lot of times. The ones I’ve picked up work perfectly fine. Only problem is finding a stand since CRT’s are much heavier than today’s TV’s, and most TV stands made these days aren’t meant to hold that much weight
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    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    When you all play on original hardware, do you still have CRTs lying around? Or do you use newer cable solutions to hook up to more modern TVs? I'm assuming that finding CRTs this day is probably not worth, as they've probably mostly broken down and/or are overpriced by collectors if they're the nicer PVM models. Been wanting to play on some original hardware for some reason lately. But I have also been emulating more.
    hook them on to the flatscreen

    you just have to find what's the best possible native resolution and use the correct cables

    so don't go using RF or composite cables since this will be bad lol

    I'm in Europe so SCART is my go to for everything up to N64 (RGB mod)

    Gamecube and Wii through component cables (I have the Japanese GC component cable, stupid expensive atm)

    Dreamcast through VGA

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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    I prefer the aesthetic V-Saturn over a mod chip.
    Me too! Those are very rare and hard to find tho, wished I had one.

    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    When you all play on original hardware, do you still have CRTs lying around? Or do you use newer cable solutions to hook up to more modern TVs? I'm assuming that finding CRTs this day is probably not worth, as they've probably mostly broken down and/or are overpriced by collectors if they're the nicer PVM models. Been wanting to play on some original hardware for some reason lately. But I have also been emulating more.
    I don't have a CRT but have been thinking of getting one. I see them every now and then on local ads online, but usually I'll just use one of my older flatscreen TV's to play on them. For the Saturn I did buy the HDMI adaptor and surprisingly it's a good upgrade to the RGB cables. Most of these HDMI adaptors are usually crap (discoloring the image etc..) but the one I bought was great.

    This is the adaptor that I bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    Edit: Screenshot taken with my phone camera, white reflection on the right side was from the blinds of my sliding door and not actual imaging issue on screen. Also not to scale, but you can get the idea that the image is a lot crisper on the HDMI adaptor.
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    Originally Posted by mkx1775 View Post
    For the Saturn I did buy the HDMI adaptor and surprisingly it's a good upgrade to the RGB cables. Most of these HDMI adaptors are usually crap (discoloring the image etc..) but the one I bought was great.
    composite cables really are low quality so not so surprising to see an improvement lol

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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    composite cables really are low quality so not so surprising to see an improvement lol

    shame you NA brahs missed out on SCART
    Not always true for HDMI adaptors though, for example, Pound HDMIs are notorious for being terrible. I have the Xbox (original) and Dreamcast HDMI cables from Pound and I would say they are worse than Composite, specially with color misrepresentation.

    There's some videos on YouTube that talks about the issues:
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    Originally Posted by mkx1775 View Post
    Not always true for HDMI adaptors though, for example, Pound HDMIs are notorious for being terrible. I have the Xbox (original) and Dreamcast HDMI cables from Pound and I would say they are worse than Composite, specially with color misrepresentation.

    There's some videos on YouTube that talks about the issues:
    Skip to 7:33 for comparison
    these comparisons are with component, not composite

    RF < composite < S-video < SCART < component < VGA < HDMI

    I always try to get the best possible native signal through the right cable, not a fan of the adaptors but if it's between an adaptor and composite it's probably gonna be better with the adaptor lol
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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    these comparisons are with component, not composite

    RF < composite < S-video < SCART < component < VGA < HDMI

    I always try to get the best possible native signal through the right cable, not a fan of the adaptors but if it's between an adaptor and composite it's probably gonna be better with the adaptor lol
    True but my point was that you don't always get the best image quality with an HDMI adaptor.
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    Originally Posted by mkx1775 View Post
    True but my point was that you don't always get the best image quality with an HDMI adaptor.
    true, that's why I stick to the standard cables to hook them up

    too bad most modern flatscreens don't come with SCART or VGA ports anymore

    so when my current television set breaks down I'm screwed
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    Tempted to try those Retrotink cables that take the composite to HDMI with a N64 I have. It'll prob look awful...my computer monitor is 4k so i'm assuming it might be heinous lol. But if it was even serviceable, i'd rather spend 50 bucks on a cable than have a CRT in my house haha. Got enough room on my desk set up for a retro console or two without changing anything around. Could be cool to pop in to them from time to time with the original hardware. Brb 3k computer next to a 1k monitor hooked up to a N64. Would be pretty lulzy looking.

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    Tempted to try those Retrotink cables that take the composite to HDMI with a N64 I have. It'll prob look awful...my computer monitor is 4k so i'm assuming it might be heinous lol. But if it was even serviceable, i'd rather spend 50 bucks on a cable than have a CRT in my house haha. Got enough room on my desk set up for a retro console or two without changing anything around. Could be cool to pop in to them from time to time with the original hardware. Brb 3k computer next to a 1k monitor hooked up to a N64. Would be pretty lulzy looking.

    https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/...D2X-HDMI-CABLE
    I watched the Digital Foundry review/demo on the RAD2X and it looks pretty good. There's an option for smoothing and makes 3d games look great. I am still debating about buying a one but I'm so tempted to do the hdmi mods (if I can get a hold of them).
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    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    Tempted to try those Retrotink cables that take the composite to HDMI with a N64 I have. It'll prob look awful...my computer monitor is 4k so i'm assuming it might be heinous lol. But if it was even serviceable, i'd rather spend 50 bucks on a cable than have a CRT in my house haha. Got enough room on my desk set up for a retro console or two without changing anything around. Could be cool to pop in to them from time to time with the original hardware. Brb 3k computer next to a 1k monitor hooked up to a N64. Would be pretty lulzy looking.

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    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    I did end up picking up a CRT on ******** marketplace. Works well. Buddy is giving me a bunch of older systems/games he had at his parents house. You guys have any sites you buy from regularly? Or just look at like eBay reviews. Less concerned with the best possible deal and just that they’re reputable, etc
    i'd probably just hit up pawn and thrift shops.
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    I’ve been watching YouTube more. Tons of retro collectors video room tours on there for inspiration.

    If I get into it I am thinking will focus on Nintendo. I did have PlayStation ce a lot of them actually but I was an idiot we opened them and threw out the box.

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    i'd probably just hit up pawn and thrift shops.
    Most of them just have chitty old flatscreens these days
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    As a hardware junkie, I hate to say this, but retropie or Pandora's box is the way to go these days.
    I would tend to agree if all you want to do is play the games. However, for collectors it's another story.


    I have retropie and numerous consoles/handhelds that are modded to play retro games. I mostly collect handhelds (Gameboys). I find myself wanting to play on original hardware more so than playing on a retropie setup.
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    Originally Posted by jason_bh View Post
    I would tend to agree if all you want to do is play the games. However, for collectors it's another story.


    I have retropie and numerous consoles/handhelds that are modded to play retro games. I mostly collect handhelds (Gameboys). I find myself wanting to play on original hardware more so than playing on a retropie setup.
    Buy an adaptor to use an original controller. That only really impacts N64 and Gamecube. That's the only real difference. Plus with emulation you can make the game look even better.
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    Originally Posted by OptimusTrajan View Post
    Buy an adaptor to use an original controller. That only really impacts N64 and Gamecube. That's the only real difference. Plus with emulation you can make the game look even better.
    I really only play Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, NDS, and 3DS games. I have been selling off my NES, SNES, Xbox, etc games to buy GB games.

    However, I do like to play NES games. If I do that I will emulate them on one of my handhelds. IMO, handheld games do not look good on HD/4K TV's.
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    This channel is helping me get started
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    I don’t really want to play my orange n64 until I visit a pawn shop or somewhere to get an oldschool boob tube ye all heard waimsayin yeah?

    So it’s just sitting here in a cabinet now
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    I don’t really want to play my orange n64 until I visit a pawn shop or somewhere to get an oldschool boob tube ye all heard waimsayin yeah?

    So it’s just sitting here in a cabinet now
    You're not collecting as a form of investments are you?

    The retro video game market will bust in time. It is artificially inflated due to the 'video grading' scam.

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    Originally Posted by jason_bh View Post
    You're not collecting as a form of investments are you?

    The retro video game market will bust in time. It is artificially inflated due to the 'video grading' scam.

    Those collectibles aren’t coins or old baseball card sets or anything but while I like games, I was hoping they’ll be worth something in the future. Like enjoy my run, then sell whatever I have later… sometime before I die. I mean does the grading system tack on any extra money? If so I’d honestly take it if it means anything to a potential buyer.
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