US has 57 times as many school shootings as other major industrial nations combined

[SYKO227]

Stop spreading CNN fear mongering. People like you and them give them this platform to commit these acts and get 24/7 news coverage and then pretend like you don't know why they do it and then blame the gun

They seem to enjoy this so they can keep pointing at guns as the problem. Media loves it for the viewers.

[Tamorlane]

They seem to enjoy this so they can keep pointing at guns as the problem. Media loves it for the viewers.

Guns are the problem. Hence why this problem is unique to the US where guns are prevalent (101 guns exist for every 100 citizens, second place country isn't even half that amount per 100 citizens).

[otisthebat]

reduction in school shootings
reduction in child-deaths from firearms

And you have nothing to say about your entire OP being proven to be fake news?

Do you understand that the organizations that collect this data have an agenda to ban guns and as such they inflate the numbers?

Come on man they included fukking police officer accidental discharges in their "school shooting" numbers. They included stray bullets that originated from who knows where, but since they hit a window at a school, it's a "school shooting". They included a robbery that took place in an apartment complex on university property as a "school shooting".

At this point you HAVE to realize that the goal is to ban guns and they will lie and fabricate data to reach that goal.

[SYKO227]

Guns are the problem. Hence why this problem is unique to the US where guns are prevalent (101 guns exist for every 100 citizens, second place country isn't even half that amount per 100 citizens).

My guns sit where I leave them when I go to work. It's the person that's either looking for media attention/ fame, or doped up on some medication. Why don't they release stats for shooters after being tested for drugs which are likely prescribed?

Sure seems like nowadays there's "medication" for everything.

[PSToolman]

Other countries don’t deal with mental illness? There has to be something in America that exists in significantly higher numbers that could be a factor

Access to weapons, and disregard for human life.

[Cleveland33]

Guns are the problem. Hence why this problem is unique to the US where guns are prevalent (101 guns exist for every 100 citizens, second place country isn't even half that amount per 100 citizens).

What problem, shootings?

The EU has a higher mass KILLINGS per capita rate than the US and their number of deaths per attach is also higher.

[xxAchillesxx]

lol Everybody else is too busy blowing each other up. I'll stick to trying to solve a legit school shooting every now and then, thanks.



http://cpostdata.uchicago.edu/search_new.php?clear=1

[FFailed]

Is access to guns in America a new thing though? Were there always this many school instances in the past?

[xxAchillesxx]

Is access to guns in America a new thing though? Were there always this many school instances in the past?

No and yes.

https://www.k12academics.com/school-...-united-states

[FFailed]

Guns are the problem. Hence why this problem is unique to the US where guns are prevalent (101 guns exist for every 100 citizens, second place country isn't even half that amount per 100 citizens).

How do we have 144 times more than a place like Canada that still has a good amount of guns? I know they have stricter laws on purchasing but what do they have in place to stop ****ty parenting and kids taking their parents firearms?

[AltarOfPlagues]

I wonder if the people in Switzerland feel like they have freedom of speech or are told what to say in their daily lives by their government

I wonder how many school shootings they've had this year

go the phuck to switzerland then and bother the swiss.

[kel_varnsen]

Guns are the problem. Hence why this problem is unique to the US where guns are prevalent (101 guns exist for every 100 citizens, second place country isn't even half that amount per 100 citizens).

Wrong. Why do libs assume that more guns equal more gun violence? Do they not understand that a simple linear statistical relationship between two variables in no way means causation?

" It must be tentatively concluded that higher gun ownership rates do not cause higher crime rates, including homicide rates."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...4723521400107X

[GaloisTheory]

My guns sit where I leave them when I go to work. It's the person that's either looking for media attention/ fame, or doped up on some medication. Why don't they release stats for shooters after being tested for drugs which are likely prescribed?

Sure seems like nowadays there's "medication" for everything.

Damn, big pharma giving kids autism, making them gay, and turning them homicidal. Modern medicine is a disaster.

[Dave22reborn]

reduction in school shootings
reduction in child-deaths from firearms

How do you want to make that happen? And do you cry your crocodile tears when a 16 year old gangsta disciple is killed? Technically he's a child.

[MoeBettuh]

We will never ever get to a place where we can have a constructive discussion about this type of thing with ppl like OP being so dishonest with themselves about things.

[ToPHeR35]

Access to weapons, and disregard for human life.

Try mental illness and the breakdown in family values. But go ahead and blame an object if it makes you feel better

[dhawkeye1980]

Access to weapons, and disregard for human life.

Why shouldnt law abiding citizens have easy access to protect themselves?

[Dave22reborn]

Try mental illness and the breakdown in family values. But go ahead and blame an object if it makes you feel better

He doesn't really believe in family values. He's a homosexual that supports open relationships.....what could go wrong with that kind of mentality?

[Austanian]

Not adjusting per capita...

Only using one type of weapon and not including "school attacks with multiple dead"

Using "attack" to include any discharge of a weapon near campus regardless of time.

Surely not just op creating another BS thread.

reduction in school shootings
reduction in child-deaths from firearms

reduction in school shootings
reduction in child-deaths from firearms

reduction in child-deaths from firearms

child-deaths from firearms

from firearms

Well chit. I am sure you will be 10 times happier if the kid is killed with a knife instead of a firearm.

[brighamw]

While school shootings are an issue we clearly need to address, these kinds of stats are disingenuous.

Damn!

I'm impressed...

And you're right, as a previous already stated "school shootings" is a broad term.

There are actually "good" school shootings using the parameter of "school zones" as a school shooting, police, self defense, etc...

Usually statistics like this also include somebody committing suicide in a school zone well that's not a "school shooting" as far as it pertains to these type discussion...

[Dave22reborn]

Damn!

I'm impressed...

And you're right, as a previous already stated "school shootings" is a broad term.

There are actually "good" school shootings using the parameter of "school zones" as a school shooting, police, self defense, etc...

Usually statistics like this also include somebody committing suicide in a school zone well that's not a "school shooting" as far as it pertains to these type discussion...

When school isn't in session, and someone is shot and killed on school grounds, is that considered a school shooting?

[ToPHeR35]

OP has a 350 times as many useless threads as other major R&P posters

[scheal]

Another Californian liberal speaks his mind

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.med...are-dying/amp/

Scary to watch

[dhawkeye1980]

Another Californian liberal speaks his mind

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.med...are-dying/amp/

Scary to watch

Damn even the article is full of left wing BS

[PepperedAngus]

US has 57x more freedom than ******* countries too, and freedom is dangerous.

Doesnt mean we need to legislate down the the lowest common denominator and let the crazies determine the good peoples freedoms.

[cheerupemokid]

Wrong. Why do libs assume that more guns equal more gun violence? Do they not understand that a simple linear statistical relationship between two variables in no way means causation?

" It must be tentatively concluded that higher gun ownership rates do not cause higher crime rates, including homicide rates."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...4723521400107X

Yeah, OP needs to go to Wyoming and observe how safe it is—in terms of people. And then marvel at their gun ownership numbers and how he managed to survive being among so many gun owners.

[xxdef1antxx]

I'd bet my last dollar that we have more vehicle related deaths than all those countries as well. More kids are killed due to cars than to guns but I don't see you trying to ban those. Who would've thought that a country with more kids, more schools, and more guns would have more school shootings?

Why are anti-gunners so dishonest when they try to spread their emotionally laced propaganda? You all act like NO OTHER violence happens in schools or outside them and that gun violence is only caused because of the access we have to them. Only a mentally undeveloped sadist can come to the conclusion that stealing guns and shooting up a school is a viable answer to ones personal problems. The recent upswing in school shootings is directly related to ****ty parents bringing up their kids in broken and ****ty households and solving all of their kids problems by putting them on drugs and caving into their demands. The parents of these kids are responsible for their lack of morality and coping ability. How can any of you anti-gunners possibly come to the conclusion here that its the tools fault and not the person's fault who is operating the tool is absolutely beyond me.

[Austanian]

Wrong. Why do libs assume that more guns equal more gun violence? Do they not understand that a simple linear statistical relationship between two variables in no way means causation?

" It must be tentatively concluded that higher gun ownership rates do not cause higher crime rates, including homicide rates."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...4723521400107X

You just did what OP did and misuse statistics to make a point.

More guns =/= more gun ownership.
Then you reduced it to pure crime rate and homicide rate and not "Gun Crime and Gun deaths"

"Gun ownership" is the correct measure. However it needs to be presented as the case.
Gun presence does in fact have a strong correlation with "Gun" crimes. After stating gun crime in your first line. You would be correct that it would be smarter to measure the "crime" itself instead of the tool used but pretending they are the same thing is wrong.

I have ran the numbers... the correct statement is "There is no statistically significant relationship between gun ownership and homicide/violent crime." Stating "gun ownership rates does not cause higher crime rates " is also wrong.

Essentially, people decide they want to kill/attack someone then look for the best/easiest to acquire tool for the job. In America that tool is typically guns. In other countries substitution takes place.

[FBjuiceboxFTW]

Make America gun-free again

[scheal]

Make America gun-free again

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