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    Is Raw with Wraps almost like Equipped now? Powerlifting numbers are increasing a lot

    Is Raw (with Wraps) almost like Equipped now? There is not much gap now. Numbers are increasing a lot.

    I think 100% Raw is where the real strength is.
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    Numbers are constantly increasing as the bar is raised competition will seek to raise it higher. No one knows what the limits are. Once someone achieves an all time record it puts that in reach of the next generation knowing it can be done.

    Strength is strength regardless of what's used. If you don't like it then don't watch it or compete in those feds. F'off
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    Fun fact: equipped lifters compete against other equipped lifters. Raw/wraps against other raw/wraps and raw competes against raw. And for clarity, strongman compete against strongman with their own sets of rules.

    Their own levels of strength are tested against people on the same playing field as they are.
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    Originally Posted by MarkSamuel1 View Post
    Is Raw (with Wraps) almost like Equipped now? There is not much gap now. Numbers are increasing a lot.

    I think 100% Raw is where the real strength is.
    RAW is Sleeves
    Classic Raw is Wrap
    Equipped is Equipped either single or multi-ply
    They all only compete in their own class/division

    Numbers increase as powerlifting gains popularity, more competitor and larger pool. What's your point?
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    Another fun fact: raw w/ wraps IS equipped
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    If you're wearing a belt it is equipped. If you're wearing wrist wraps it is equipped. If you're wearing clothes it is equipped.


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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Comment : “shoes on. Doesn’t count”

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    I am not comparing raw to equipped. I'm comparing raw w/wraps (old suits) with new ones. I think there are better belts and wraps that allow one to lift heavier.
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    I don't know why it ever was. Raw should be nothing but you and the bar (and clothes, of course, lol), which means no straps, wraps, or belts. I could understand shoes, but that should be about it.

    But as long as people are competing against others with the same equipment, I don't see the big deal.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Numbers are constantly increasing as the bar is raised competition will seek to raise it higher. No one knows what the limits are. Once someone achieves an all time record it puts that in reach of the next generation knowing it can be done.

    Strength is strength regardless of what's used. If you don't like it then don't watch it or compete in those feds. F'off
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    Anecdotally, I see a lot of novice lifters wear knee wraps and wrist wraps in the gym... a lot more than 5 years ago.
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    Originally Posted by CamBeastMode00 View Post
    I don't know why it ever was. Raw should be nothing but you and the bar (and clothes, of course, lol), which means no straps, wraps, or belts. I could understand shoes, but that should be about it.

    But as long as people are competing against others with the same equipment, I don't see the big deal.
    Shoes are equipment. Even in the late 1800s it was suggested to have a solid base on the foot for optimal performance. Including wrist wraps was known to help support bigger weight. Just wasn't suggested for beginners to help strengthen their wrists.

    "Another item of importance is clothing, which must, above all, be loose, and rubber-soled slippers should be worn. I do not advise the use of wrist straps. For the time being you obtain support, and apparently your wrist is strengthened, but the strength is only apparent and not real. Should you be compelled to lift without your wrist straps you would miss them, and your wrist would not be equal to the strain." ~Arthur Saxon circa 1905
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