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    Exclamation Bulk or Cut? Skinny fat help!

    Hey boyz, basically I'm a 17 yo guy who started lifting about 1.5 years ago with 3x a week but only kind of started seriously and counting macros around 8 months ago.
    Today, I go to the gym 4x a week doing a push/pull with 2 days for Power and 2 days for Hypertrophy.
    I started lifting with around 54kg and 172cm, currently, I weigh around 61kg and 173cm.
    So.. there's no doubt that I've gotten stronger and more muscular but I still want more and I don't consider me as a "muscular looking" guy.
    The heaviest I got, was 62.7kg during a small surplus bulk and the lightest was 60.1kg like 10 days ago, since I am currently on a cut for already about a month (began after the 62.7kg bulk end)
    But.. I still ask myself if I'm doing the right thing trying to lose this small layers of BF and then go for a lean bulk or should I just get some more weigth in and then cut?
    I appreciate all the help, thanks!!
    PS: those pics were taken 10/03/2018 when I was weighting 61.8kg in the mids of the bulk.

    *EDIT: My current lifts are:
    Bench: 121 for 10
    Squat: 154 for 8
    DL: 176 for 4
    OHP DUMBBELL: 50 (each hand) for 7-8
    BENT OVER ROW: 132 for 6
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    Depends. If you don't mind the extra fat for some muscle gain, go for the bulk. If you do mind, you can cut. Keep your protein at about .82-1g per pound of your bodyweight. Since you're 8 months in into serious lifting, you might get away with gaining strength and muscle while losing bodyfat.
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    Originally Posted by Ney1011 View Post
    Depends. If you don't mind the extra fat for some muscle gain, go for the bulk. If you do mind, you can cut. Keep your protein at about .82-1g per pound of your bodyweight. Since you're 8 months in into serious lifting, you might get away with gaining strength and muscle while losing bodyfat.
    I kind of don't mind but since Summer is coming I might go for some more weeks on cut, btw do you think a surplus of 500cal would be nice?
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    Originally Posted by Pophigh View Post
    I kind of don't mind but since Summer is coming I might go for some more weeks on cut, btw do you think a surplus of 500cal would be nice?
    Sure, cut for summer and then go for a bulk. 500 surplus is good, but no more than that, since your body can only turn so much of the calories into muscle. When going over 500, you'll be gaining a lot more fat.
    starting lifts:
    20lbs standing ohp, 30lbs bench press, 65lbs squat, 95lbs deadlift, 45lbs power clean

    current:
    145 standing ohp, 225 bench press, 290 squat, 375 deadlift, 145lbs power clean
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    Originally Posted by Ney1011 View Post
    Sure, cut for summer and then go for a bulk. 500 surplus is good, but no more than that, since your body can only turn so much of the calories into muscle. When going over 500, you'll be gaining a lot more fat.
    Alright man, appreciate it!
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    I see no reason to cut.
    You can't help the hopeless.

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    Originally Posted by Partyrocking View Post
    I see no reason to cut.
    Well, I really want to get bigger and I'm willing to sacrifice some body fat for that but since Summer is arriving and I never got that feeling of having visible abs, I dunno want to do.
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    You don't have enough muscle to look like you think you will with "visible abs". You will end up dieting down to nothing and look worse. You need more muscle on your frame. Lean bulk.
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    Originally Posted by Diamhea View Post
    You don't have enough muscle to look like you think you will with "visible abs". You will end up dieting down to nothing and look worse. You need more muscle on your frame. Lean bulk.
    Hmm aight then.. my maintenance is around 2250, how much do you think I should be looking to have of a surplus and gaining by week/month
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    Originally Posted by Pophigh View Post
    Hmm aight then.. my maintenance is around 2250, how much do you think I should be looking to have of a surplus and gaining by week/month
    1-2lbs a month. 200-400 calories above maintenance
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