Newcomer to the gym here and currently running SL 5x5. I am having hip issues where squatting gives me stiff hips and causes me to stop working out due to concern. The stiffness is temporary and goes away until the next time I squat. Until I get this checked out, I am aiming to stop squatting and replace it with other exercises to train my legs.
Would a combination of leg press, leg extensions, and leg curls be a decent option for leg training?
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04-17-2018, 07:03 PM #1
Viable alternatives to back squats?
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04-18-2018, 01:46 AM #2
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Either it's a form issue which can be fixed - or it's a problem in your physique - which should be fixed, not avoided. Such things have ways of making themselves known in other ways.
BTW, the last time I picked up a muscle strain, it was when doing leg extensions...
You could try a form check video for a startoff. You could try alternatives like wall squats (against a bosu ball) or goblet squats. Basically, you can't avoid hip extension if you want to train your lower body - and you don't really want to go through life with a nascent problem lurking just below the surface.
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04-18-2018, 04:02 AM #3
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04-18-2018, 04:37 AM #4
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04-18-2018, 09:06 AM #5
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04-18-2018, 09:09 AM #6
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04-18-2018, 09:26 AM #7
Will try this. How much weight for dumbbells you recommend that is equivalent to the barbell? With the barbell I was able to squat 115 lbs though my form kinda sucked. Dropped the weight to 95 just recently and I was able to squat deeper.
Also, should I approach goblet squats with a 5x5 approach or do I change the reps/sets a bit?
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04-18-2018, 09:30 AM #8
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04-18-2018, 10:06 AM #9
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04-18-2018, 10:12 AM #11
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04-18-2018, 06:10 PM #12
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04-19-2018, 04:59 AM #13
The general consensus is that lighter front squats will elicit the same muscle activation as heavier back squats, with the exception of probably more lumbar activation and much more thoracic activation. Most people like a mix of the two, though some people only do back squats (such as weightlifters with specific knee injuries who don't want to overload) and some people only do front squats (like the Bulgarians during their heyday.) Perfectly viable, probably safer and carries over to other sports better than the back squat. I think Greg Nuckols summarised it well as something like 'front squats will pressure the front of the legs and the back the most, low bar back squats will pressure the posterior chain the most and high back back squats are somewhat of a middle ground.'
Front squats are a bit trickier and require better mobility, especially in the upper body but improving your thoracic extension is probably second only to opening up your hips so I see no problems there. The problem with SS/SL is that linear programs have about the same effectiveness as undulating programs for novices (and much less effective for trained athletes) but are riskier in terms of injuries. Lots of programs have come and gone but I still think the best squat program is the RSR; it's simple, effective and you can run it in its entirety or just the pyramid segment.Last edited by Gwybodaeth; 04-19-2018 at 05:06 AM.
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04-19-2018, 05:06 AM #14
5x5 should work fine but keep in mind it will become increasingly taxing as the weights get heavier.
The general rule is that your 1RM front squat is ~80-85% of your back squat, but goblets are a bit trickier to hold so you might want to plan with something lower. An easy way is to test your 1RM and base it on the heaviest you can lift with optimal form.
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