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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Kobe lost three first rd series and led his team to sub 40 wins and a lottery pick in his prime. Stop.
    This guy literally admitted he didn't watch basketball before LeBron came back to the Cavs a few years ago. Now he spends every day of his life defending him online.

    Think about that brehs.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Kobe lost three first rd series and led his team to sub 40 wins and a lottery pick in his prime. Stop.
    apples and oranges. Kobe didn't handpick his team, had a worse supporting cast, and played in the nba
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Kobe lost three first rd series and led his team to sub 40 wins and a lottery pick in his prime. Stop.
    LAL roster for three years was a complete joke. Lamar and Caron were solid but three guys aren't enough to get it done
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    This is reminiscent of the Celtics going 7 in the first round against Atl before dominating their way to a championship.
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    Originally Posted by ClevageGobbler View Post
    LAL roster for three years was a complete joke. Lamar and Caron were solid but three guys aren't enough to get it done
    Eh Lamar and Caron could’ve done damage but the 04-05 season they all got injured including Kobe for like 17 games or some **** like that. I don’t consider that season a blemish due to injury.
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    Originally Posted by WrestlingFan123 View Post
    This is reminiscent of the Celtics going 7 in the first round against Atl before dominating their way to a championship.
    except the Celtics had people who were actually clutch. and could play defense.
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    Originally Posted by mvpshaq32 View Post
    except the Celtics had people who were actually clutch. and could play defense.
    So you are admitting the Cavs supporting cast isn’t good?
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    So you are admitting the Cavs supporting cast isn’t good?
    weird they were plenty fine on their previous teams and now they're being labeled as trash as soon as they come to the Cavs

    I thought LeLeader made his teammates better?
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    Originally Posted by mvpshaq32 View Post
    weird they were plenty fine on their previous teams and now they're being labeled as trash as soon as they come to the Cavs

    I thought LeLeader made his teammates better?
    Remove lebron from the roster and how far could this team go?
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    I only enter Lebron threads to check out the stage of meltdown Ari is in....currently on schedule for a full meltdown next week. Should be interesting.

    Moreover, sports misc will be very entertaining when he “takes his talents” elsewhere again, blames management while pushing any responsibility of his own on his teammates (in a passive aggressive manner of course).
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Remove lebron from the roster and how far could this team go?
    Remove Westbrook from OKC and how far do they go?
    Remove AD from the Pelicans and how far do they go?
    Remove Harden from the Rockets and how far do they go?
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    What a dumb argument to make.
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    Originally Posted by GotNext View Post
    Remove Westbrook from OKC and how far do they go?
    Remove AD from the Pelicans and how far do they go?
    Remove Harden from the Rockets and how far do they go?
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    What a dumb argument to make.
    It’s not a dumb argument to make. And conveniently enough you didn’t mention the warriors or the Celtics which helps to prove my point.

    We all know there are only a handful of teams who have even a chance to win a title. The rent free crew makes it sound like the Cavs have the deepest roster in the league by mentioning how much their payroll is etc. how lebron benefits from this amazing supporting cast. We all know the Cavs would be nothing without lebron in the lineup. And of course, the same can be said for most teams in the NBA if they lost their superstar. But look at how the Celtics are still moving along after losing not only Hayward and Irving. Look at the warriors when Durant was hurt last year and now curry this year. These teams are deeper than deep and have a great coach. Two things the Cavs don’t have. Part of that has to do with lebron, sure. But it proves how far behind his support cast is compared to the top teams in the NBA.
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    Originally Posted by GotNext View Post
    Remove Westbrook from OKC and how far do they go?
    Remove AD from the Pelicans and how far do they go?
    Remove Harden from the Rockets and how far do they go?
    Remove ...

    What a dumb argument to make.
    Lol Harden just went 2/18 and won a Playoff game by 20.

    Any one of the players that you mentioned can have a bad game and their team would still be competitive, LeBron can’t even have a bad quarter.
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    Originally Posted by GotNext View Post
    Remove Westbrook from OKC and how far do they go?
    Remove AD from the Pelicans and how far do they go?
    Remove Harden from the Rockets and how far do they go?
    Remove ...

    What a dumb argument to make.
    Harden is the only player out of those who is on a contender, and the Rockets were on a 49 win pace without him this season. GS last year would have won the West without KD. This year they could probably make it to the WCF without Curry. Celtics are winning in the playoffs without Kyrie or Hayward.

    Cavs meanwhile were 0-8 last season without Lebron while having a better team than this season.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Is it difficult to try to balance so many narratives that obviously play against each other?

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    Originally Posted by GotNext View Post
    Remove Westbrook from OKC and how far do they go?
    Remove AD from the Pelicans and how far do they go?
    Remove Harden from the Rockets and how far do they go?
    Remove ...

    What a dumb argument to make.
    Not when the lakercuck crew can't even acknowledge the simple fact that this Cavs team would be completely trash without Lebron and that he is in fact carrying the team with many of their players playing terrible basketball. Boston seem to be doing relatively okay without Kyrie, Pelicans without Cousins, Golden State without Curry (although granted they are stacked), Indiana actually a better team than last year without PG and OKC is a worse team with PG + Melo. Clippers still went above 500 despite tons of injuries and losing Griffin and Chris Paul. I don't think it is a dumb argument because there are only really a handful of players in this league that have the ability to completely turn a franchise around no matter who their teammates are, I would say there are less than 8 players.

    Somehow, if OKC traded Westbrook and got some ok to decent pieces back and got rid of Melo, I think they would be completely fine. Westbrook isn't exactly the hallmark of efficiency with an absurdly high usage rate, high turnover rate, not a good shooter, stat-padder at the expense of his team at times, not exactly a lock-down defender and probably leads the league in the poorest decisions and barrelling out of control to the rim. I've always said the dude was overrated. Great player but I don't think even he could completely turn-around a franchise. With Steven Adams and PG they should at least be a 50 win team although they are missing Roberson. Any team with Lebron on it is a team that can't ever be overlooked or counted out, I don't think this rings as true for any other player in the league.
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    Originally Posted by dtbrehm View Post
    Harden is the only player out of those who is on a contender
    The only way starting your post like this makes sense is if you imply that the Cavs are a contender this year. Are you serious? The 4th seed in the East? The team down 2-1 in the first round?

    Breh ...

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    It’s not a dumb argument to make. And conveniently enough you didn’t mention the warriors or the Celtics which helps to prove my point.
    Not really, with the Warriors I simply didn't knew if I should pick Curry or KD. I think without either they lose to the Rockets.

    As for Celtics: which one to pick, Hayward or Kyrie? The Celtics will probably end up exiting round one, so how does this help prove your point? You try to make it look like only LeBron can make or break a team, when there are a bunch of other players in similar situations, just less spotlight. Without Davis the Pelicans are drafting between #1 and #3 this year ...
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