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    Question A cannon ball is fired from a cannon horizontally

    At the same time you drop a cannon ball of the same weight from the same height. Which cannon ball will hit the ground first?
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    They hit at the same time?
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    Does it depend on speed of cannon ball fired? Probably the one you drop though I think
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    Both hit at the same time
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    the one you drop, the one from the cannon travels laterally so due to the spherical nature of the earth will have further the drop (assuming its on "flat" ground)
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    Originally Posted by SwimToTheMoon View Post
    Does it depend on speed of cannon ball fired? Probably the one you drop though I think
    No its always the one you drop, the speed just increases the differential. And at a high enough velocity it just goes into orbit
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    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    They hit at the same time?
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    Both hit at the same time
    Why though?
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    No its always the one you drop, the speed just increases the differential. And at a high enough velocity it just goes into orbit
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    Originally Posted by PowerRanger View Post
    Why though?
    Because gravity effects each cannonball equally.
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    We grade 10 physics again??
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    Originally Posted by PowerRanger View Post
    At the same time you drop a cannon ball of the same weight from the same height. Which cannon ball will hit the ground first?
    You left out one important detail, speed / acceleration of cannonball fired.
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    Horizontal wud land at same time

    Fired above horizontal will land after
    Fired below horizontal will land first

    Basic mechanics cmon guys
    Youve given the ball zero vertical acceleration if you fire horizontal

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    Originally Posted by Kylevolution View Post
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    Brah! C'mon, I know you know that horizontally is not straight up... don't you?
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    Originally Posted by PTzFree View Post
    Brah! C'mon, I know you know that horizontally is not straight up... don't you?
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    if firing in earth's atmosphere the minuscule amount of lift generated will make the fired one land slightly later
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    Originally Posted by melDorado View Post
    Horizontal wud land at same time

    Fired above horizontal will land after
    Fired below horizontal will land first

    Basic mechanics cmon guys
    Youve given the ball zero vertical acceleration if you fire horizontal

    Source believe it or not melDorado has first class honours degree in physics
    Well, your honours degree left you a fukkin moron.
    A cannon is about 4 feet off the ground. You drop a cannon ball from four feet I can guarantee you it's hitting the ground sooner than a cannon ball being accelerated across the ground horizontally. Is this seriously even debatable?

    What OP left out because he's also a fukkin moron is a chit-ton of variables that make this a math problem. Instead, because you're both dipchits, it's a logic problem that has evaded both of you.
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    Originally Posted by melDorado View Post
    Horizontal wud land at same time

    Fired above horizontal will land after
    Fired below horizontal will land first

    Basic mechanics cmon guys
    Youve given the ball zero vertical acceleration if you fire horizontal

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    2:1 Mathematics degree here, and you're wrong. Speed matters when cannonball is fired horizontally, because F=ma.

    When cannonball is dropped, equation becomes F=mg because gravity.

    When fired from horizontal, acceleration must be taken into account because that will have an effect on how long the projectile will travel before it hits the ground.

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    Originally Posted by AquilaConfido View Post
    2:1 Mathematics degree here, and you're wrong. Speed matters when cannonball is fired horizontally, because F=ma.

    When cannonball is dropped, equation becomes F=-mg because gravity.

    When fired from horizontal, acceleration must be taken into account because that will have an effect on how long the projectile will travel before it hits the ground.

    Basic projectile ballistics.
    Horizontal is in a different plain though, and does not effect the vertical forces except for any lift generated
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    Originally Posted by AquilaConfido View Post
    2:1 Mathematics degree here, and you're wrong. Speed matters when cannonball is fired horizontally, because F=ma.

    When cannonball is dropped, equation becomes F=mg because gravity.

    When fired from horizontal, acceleration must be taken into account because that will have an effect on how long the projectile will travel before it hits the ground.

    Basic projectile ballistics.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Horizontal is in a different plain though, and does not effect the vertical forces except for any lift generated
    Are you kidding me?

    Fuk me a bunch of dumbasses ITT.

    Do this experiment.

    Fire a M1911 handgun horizontally, and at the same time drop a bullet from same height. Guarantee you the bullet dropped will hit the ground first.

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    THANK YOU! For the love of God, someone with some brains.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Horizontal is in a different plain though, and does not effect the vertical forces except for any lift generated
    For example, if the cannonball comes close to escape velocity, vertical forces will virtually remain the same, but the time it hits the ground will be longer than for the other cannonball.
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    Originally Posted by PowerRanger View Post
    Why though?
    The cannon is firing the cannon ball in the x direction only. Gravity is moving both the cannon balls in the y direction. Gravity doesn't care what the x velocity is, it only effects the y direction so both balls hit at the same time.


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    Originally Posted by AquilaConfido View Post
    2:1 Mathematics degree here, and you're wrong. Speed matters when cannonball is fired horizontally, because F=ma.

    When cannonball is dropped, equation becomes F=mg because gravity.

    When fired from horizontal, acceleration must be taken into account because that will have an effect on how long the projectile will travel before it hits the ground.

    Basic projectile ballistics.
    It affects how FAR horizontally it travels but not the time it takes to hit the ground
    Again only applies if fired exactly horizontal
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    Originally Posted by melDorado View Post
    It affects how FAR horizontally it travels but not the time it takes to hit the ground
    Again only applies if fired exactly horizontal
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    Originally Posted by melDorado View Post
    It affects how FAR horizontally it travels but not the time it takes to hit the ground
    Again only applies if fired exactly horizontal
    Wrong. The faster the initial speed of the projectile, the longer it will travel and the more time it will take to hit the ground.
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