Caffeine on an Empty stomach result in low serotonin level(anxiety, depression)

[truckerfit]

Hi guys,
I just want to share a bit of my experience with Intermittent Fasting.( with caffeine on an empty stomach)
In my past, I was one of those guys you believe in the magic of Intermittent Fasting and how caffeine fasted give me great energy, focus and great workout etc...

But the truth is, My mental heath wasn't doing so great.
A couple month ago I made a psychosis, which happen mainly due to an imbalance in the brain neurotransmitters(low serotonin).
I can say, Pushing Intermittent Fasting with coffee, energy drinks or Prenworkout drink can mess you up pretty bad.

It might be a way to suppress hunger in the sort term but in the long run it's gonna make you crave more foods likes sweet,savoury,massive cheat day/binge, alcohol.(These foods temporarily raise serotonin levels and make you feel better, so your body craves them. In the long run, though, they actually deplete serotonin levels and cause significant weight gain.)

What I'm trying to say despite the fact that I'm not an expert,
Drinking caffeine fasted and eat potato chips at night sound to good to be true.

Hope Y'all learn from my mistake and also keep in mind that mental health is way more important than looking lean.

[ErikTheElectric]

Wat

[AdamWW]

deserves to be stickied

[Kansas123]

Idk of the empty stomach thing is true but when I started working out I noticed slight anxiety after 6 months or so. Now like 4 years deep I can tell when it starts to get really bad.

[TCWoody]

*scratchingmyhead*

[Mikeez0]

It might be a way to suppress hunger in the sort term but in the long run it's gonna make you crave more foods likes sweet,savoury,massive cheat day/binge, alcohol.

- Are you drinking coffee before breakfast?
- Yeah, sure, something wrong?
- You are sick with alcoholism and an eating disorder.
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[JustLost]

Wat

Not sure, but I do like the phrase "I made a psychosis." I'll be looking for a chance to use it in conversation.

[truckerfit]

- Are you drinking coffee before breakfast?
- Yeah, sure, something wrong?
- You are sick with alcoholism and an eating disorder.
-

Yeah sure I was drinking coffee before my breakfast. Like a lot of people actually do when they practice Intermittent Fasting.
I don't drink alcohol and yeah I'm controlling myself not to binge.(I'm always hungry never satisfied.)
What I mean is that if I have a beer I would enjoy it a lot.(more than I should)
If I do any substance that boost my serotonin/dopamine quickly I'll enjoy it a lot.(like any drugs)
I don't do drugs or anythings for that matters.
I'm trying to getting back to a normal state without anything but supplement(tyrosine,5-HTP)
and eating whole foods multiple times a day.

[truckerfit]

Not sure, but I do like the phrase "I made a psychosis." I'll be looking for a chance to use it in conversation.

It can happen to anyone man,
The reason behind it is mainly substance abuse from caffeine in a fasted state.
I can't change the past but at least we can learn something...

[jinkty]

Caffeine doesn't contribute to psychosis in any way, fasting/calorie deficit (among other things) on the other hand will precipitate/worsen psychosis in the mentally ill (remission or otherwise) and can even make healthy people psychotic (Minnesota starvation study)
Something else very few people seem to know is that insulin makes serotonin. In keto your body becomes insulin resistant and your brain becomes insulin sensitive because you have low insulin levels. Doing keto incorrectly will really do a number on you for a whole range of reasons.
Also it's a terrible idea to mix fasting with stimulants.