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    Dutch lawyer is first person to be sentenced in Mueller probe, gets 30 days in prison


    (CNN)A Dutch lawyer tied to former Trump deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates became the first person to be sentenced in Robert Mueller's investigation when a federal judge sentenced him on Tuesday to spend 30 days in prison and pay a $20,000 fine after he admitted to lying to investigators.

    Alex van der Zwaan, who worked with Gates and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort while he practiced law at a large international firm, admitted to lying and failing to turn over emails to Mueller's team in February.

    Van der Zwaan's communications with Gates and a person with Russian intelligence ties became important to the special counsel's broader investigation, as it pursues crimes related to Russian interference in the 2016 election, Mueller's team has said.

    Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, has pleaded not guilty to two sets of federal charges, and prosecutors revealed they could investigate allegations that he colluded with Russians to interfere with the 2016 presidential election.

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    How many AG's have been held in Contempt of Congress?
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    So Ronald Reagan's administration went after corrupt officials and threw them in jail?
    Wow what a scandalous criminal that Reagan guy was.
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    Originally Posted by SlothLord View Post
    So Ronald Reagan's administration went after corrupt officials and threw them in jail?
    Wow what a scandalous criminal that Reagan guy was.
    Yes, Reagan's administration was full of corrupt officials.

    Just like how Trump's cabinet is full of corrupt officials.
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    Originally Posted by SlothLord View Post
    So Ronald Reagan's administration went after corrupt officials and threw them in jail?


    Ronald Reagan and his administration were the corrupt officials.It was the Justice Department that went after them.


    Originally Posted by SlothLord View Post
    Wow what a scandalous criminal that Reagan guy was.

    You have no idea........

    Ronald Reagan tripled national debt by giving the wealthy massive tax cuts.Dick Cheney said on several occasions that "If we learned anything from Ronald Reagan it's that deficits don't matter."

    Raised taxes 7 out of 8 eights trying to repair the damage.

    Gave Saddam Hussein WMDs including chemical weapons and viruses such as anthrax and bubonic plague which were used to kill thousands of innocent men,women,and children.

    Gave aid and comfort to Osama Bin Laden and the Mujaheddin by supplying weapons that were later used to kill American servicemen.

    Armed and trained the Contras who raped women and killed children despite signing a Congressional bill promising not to.

    Holds the record for presiding over the most corrupt administration in American history with 138 investigations,indictments, and convictions.

    Sold weapons to Iran despite the Iranians storming the American Embassy in Tehran and holding Americans hostage for 444 days.

    The Russians shot down an Airliner killing over 50 Americans and a US Congressman and Reagan stayed on vacation in California for another 3 days.He also told his staff not to 'upset' the Russians.

    He remained on vacation until his staff convinced him to return to Washington and deal with the matter.He wrote in his diary "It saddened me to lose those three days of vacation."

    Over 80,000 companies filed for bankruptcy in only 3 months in 1987,a record that still stands today.

    Attacked unions despite being the former leader of the Screen Actors Guild.

    He ignored the AIDS epidemic for years while thousands Americans died including children who needed blood transfusions for hemophilia(a blood clotting disease).

    He ordered the Marines guarding the Marine Base in Beirut not to load their weapons because it might "insult their Muslim host."The guards watched helplessly while suicide bombers drove two bomb laden trucks up to the barracks killing over 200 marines.Reagan later ordered the Marines to "cut and run."

    9/11 happened because of Reagan's cowardly leadership.Osama Bin Laden believed America would run away from a fight if it was attacked.He wanted the USA to withdraw from Saudi Arabia and he believed an attack on American soil would make the USA "cut and run'' again.

    Just days after the bombing that killed 241 Marines in Beirut, Reagan launched an attack on the island of Grenada to remove Cuban soldiers there. This successfully took attention away from the devastating loss of those Marines in Beirut.

    Even tho Reagan's intelligence agencies know who was responsible for the attack Reagan never ordered retaliation for the dead Marines.

    Reagan created fewer jobs per month in office than Jimmy Carter did.

    Attacked the 2nd Amendment by passing laws making it illegal for private citizens to own semi and fully automatic weapons.Reagan said people shouldn't be carrying guns on the streets of America.He continued to fight against the 2nd Amendment after he left office.

    Reagan gave in to the demands of terrorist on two different occasions which is against a long standing American policy.

    Reagan supported the Racist Apartheid Government in South Africa and refused to sign a Bill passed by Congress to impose sanctions.Republicans and Democrats united to override his veto.

    He claimed that trees create more pollution than automobiles.

    There was runaway inflation with mortgage rates topping 18% and student loans topping 21%.

    The financial deregulation and changes to the tax code that President Reagan enacted ultimately caused nearly 750 different financial institutions to fail. This cost taxpayers about $150 billion.With interest that's over a $1 Trillion in today's dollars.

    Supporters claim he ended the Cold War but even his Ambassador to Moscow said he had little to do with it.

    When an Iraqi fighter jet fired a missile into a U.S. Navy ship in 1987, killing 37 men, Reagan did nothing in response to the attack. Iraq is still the only enemy country to attack a U.S. warship without retaliation.

    Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million Undocumented Immigrants.

    Reagan grew the size of the Federal Government by nearly 300,000 high paying jobs in his second term alone.Through his 8 budget years nearly 2 million new government jobs were created.

    Reagan raised the debt limit 18 times,the most of any President in history!!!Obama only 5 times.


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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post


    Ronald Reagan and his administration were the corrupt officials.It was the Justice Department that went after them.
    You must be pumped the DOJ has brought on Hubler to assist with the IG investigation in going after corrupt FISA officials, right?
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    i dunno chief, maybe you're not getting enough oxygen in your helmet, but criminal indictments, convictions and prison sentences are like kinda yeah based on hard evidence.
    None of which have anything to do with "Russian collusion". But Drumpf made a campaign joke at a rally about Russians "Finding hillarys 30,000 missing emails"...obvious collusion. Meanwhile, Hillarys 30,000 emails are still missing, and all you bums are focusing on Russian collusion...collusion which in itself is not illegal according to famous liberal lawyers like Allen Derschowits. But hey, lets focus on impeaching the guy that liberals and never drumpfers said they were going to do right after he was elected. Then we have Strzok messages, McCabe and Comey heading corruption in the FBI, secret FBI groups plotting to overthrow a dully elected president, evidence of mass FISA abuses by the FBI and Obama DOJ to frame Trump...and you dipsticks want to set here and talk about Russian collusion?! Its become a partisan argument, and the democrats and partisans in the FBI and DOJ have made it that way!
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    you think those children know any better than what their leftist/misinformed parents told them? Do you really think people are stupid enough to think a bunch of 2 year olds know about politics and we're going to think, "Hmph, those kids must really understand the world well that Trump is the devil."

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    You must be pumped the DOJ has brought on Hubler to assist with the IG investigation in going after corrupt FISA officials, right?
    There is no evidence of corrupt FISA officials.

    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    None of which have anything to do with "Russian collusion". But Drumpf made a campaign joke at a rally about Russians "Finding hillarys 30,000 missing emails"...obvious collusion. Meanwhile, Hillarys 30,000 emails are still missing, and all you bums are focusing on Russian collusion...collusion which in itself is not illegal according to famous liberal lawyers like Allen Derschowits.
    Collusion is a necessary ingredient on conspiracy.

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    Originally Posted by JediRN View Post
    There is no evidence of corrupt FISA officials.
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2002/08/2...-75-cases.html

    SECRET COURT SAYS F.B.I. AIDES MISLED JUDGES IN 75 CASES
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    you think those children know any better than what their leftist/misinformed parents told them? Do you really think people are stupid enough to think a bunch of 2 year olds know about politics and we're going to think, "Hmph, those kids must really understand the world well that Trump is the devil."

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    None of which have anything to do with "Russian collusion". But Drumpf made a campaign joke at a rally about Russians "Finding hillarys 30,000 missing emails"...obvious collusion. Meanwhile, Hillarys 30,000 emails are still missing, and all you bums are focusing on Russian collusion...collusion which in itself is not illegal according to famous liberal lawyers like Allen Derschowits. But hey, lets focus on impeaching the guy that liberals and never drumpfers said they were going to do right after he was elected. Then we have Strzok messages, McCabe and Comey heading corruption in the FBI, secret FBI groups plotting to overthrow a dully elected president, evidence of mass FISA abuses by the FBI and Obama DOJ to frame Trump...and you dipsticks want to set here and talk about Russian collusion?! Its become a partisan argument, and the democrats and partisans in the FBI and DOJ have made it that way!
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    By it's very definition the Republican Party is a criminal organization.


    The Republicans..........not even once!!!™
    Because it's not like the democrats circle the wagon whenever one of their own is in trouble right ? Hillary and Bill Clinton anyone ?
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    LOL. Is this real ?
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    you think those children know any better than what their leftist/misinformed parents told them? Do you really think people are stupid enough to think a bunch of 2 year olds know about politics and we're going to think, "Hmph, those kids must really understand the world well that Trump is the devil."

    if your posts are any indication of how you act you really are a cringeworthy loser IRL.
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    Originally Posted by Gayle1 View Post
    I have BuilttEV on ignore so I couldnt see what his autistic screeching...

    but wait, his dumbass actually thought this was libs training their toddlers to be afraid of Trump? LMFAO.

    Imagine how much of sad, humorless kunt you must be to see that gif and get angry rather than laugh.
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    Originally Posted by WrestlingFan123 View Post
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2002/08/2...-75-cases.html



    Us New Deal Dems(no Al From or Clinton's) have been fighting against this corruption for almost 2 decades, finally a DOJ is doing something about it.
    lol at NY Times. Fake News.

    Any convictions yet? Any charges? Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

    This sounds like the biggest fake news hoax since "Russia meddled in the elections."

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    Originally Posted by JediRN View Post
    There is no evidence of corrupt FISA officials.



    Collusion is a necessary ingredient on conspiracy.

    Intent to commit conspiracy has already been admitted by Don Jr.
    But isnt that what the whole investigation was supposed to be about? Collusion?? Now your jumping to conspiracy? Conspiracy to what? Defraud voters? Good luck proving that. And based on what? DNC hacks? Podesta clicking unsafe links in his emails?! Wikileaks? Don Jr. seeking to obtain the work product of a prior hack would be no more criminal than a newspaper publishing the work product of thefts such as the Pentagon Papers and the material stolen by Snowden and Manning. Or like the media simply posting CLASSIFIED white house leaks...

    The emails sent to Trump Jr. say that the dirt peddled by the Russian lawyer came from "official documents." No mention is made of hacking or other illegal activities. So it is unlikely that simply attending a meeting violated any criminal statute. There goes your "intent to commit conspiracy." Collusion with a foreign government itself, is not a crime. So you arent going to "commit intent on conspiracy to collude" because that is not a ****ing law. US law works on statutes, not feels.

    This entire investigation has been a sham. There was never any evidence of illegal activity to lead to an investigation in the first place. The fact that it has become a fishing expedition tells you how partisan and politicized the left and "deep state" have made this. You cant make up a crime. Only congress can enact criminal statutes. And in the lead up to special counsel, and thereafter, there has not been any crime committed to warrant this type of investigation.
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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    But isnt that what the whole investigation was supposed to be about? Collusion?? Now your jumping to conspiracy?
    It isn't a jump

    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    Conspiracy to defraud voters? Good luck proving that. And based on what? DNC hacks? Podesta clicking unsafe links in his emails?! Wikileaks? Don Jr. seeking to obtain the work product of a prior hack would be no more criminal than a newspaper publishing the work product of thefts such as the Pentagon Papers and the material stolen by Snowden and Manning. Or like the media simply posting CLASSIFIED white house leaks...

    The emails sent to Trump Jr. say that the dirt peddled by the Russian lawyer came from "official documents." No mention is made of hacking or other illegal activities. So it is unlikely that simply attending a meeting violated any criminal statute. There goes your "intent to commit conspiracy." Collusion with a foreign government itself, is not a crime.
    This isn't about in and of itself, this is about a Presidential election. Potential crimes may have be committed. We need to wait and find out. I don't claim to know more about the investigation than you, so don't try to make it seems like the case....either way.

    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    So you arent going to "commit intent on conspiracy to collude" because that is not a ****ing law.
    This literally make no sense. The big question is did any Americans conspire, which requires collusion, with a foreign country to influence the election. Whether the act had any effect on the election is irrelevant, btw.

    Have you no interest in making sure the truth comes out... whatever it is and whomever did it?
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    Originally Posted by JediRN View Post
    It isn't a jump
    But it is. Feel free to point out what laws were broken to warrant this type of investigation. Hint: You cant.

    This isn't about in and of itself, this is about a Presidential election. Potential crimes may have be committed. We need to wait and find out. I don't claim to know more about the investigation than you, so don't try to make it seems like the case....either way.
    That isnt how common law works. You don't start investigations to "find crimes." Investigations are started as a result of a crime.

    This literally make no sense. The big question is did any Americans conspire, which requires collusion, with a foreign country to influence the election. Whether the act had any effect on the election is irrelevant, btw.
    So now we are back to collusion and investigating a "crime" that hasn't yet even been proven...And again, collusion itself, with a foreign country to influence the election is not a crime. For it to be a crime, laws would have to be broken. Then you investigate that crime. Which could lead to possible crimes elsewhere.

    Have you no interest in making sure the truth comes out... whatever it is and whomever did it?
    Were you this concerned about finding out the "truth" about Hillarys 30,000 missing emails that were deleted, acid washed, bleachbit, and smashed with hammers? What was on those blackberry's to warrant that type of actions? Not worried? Dont care? You should be.

    There is quite a bit of evidence to make me believe that this is the democrats and "#NeverTrumpers" making good on their promise to try and impeach this dully elected president. They've been calling for it since the night he was elected. And the fact that there has been an investigation opened without the warrant of a crime, is scary and not something we should take lightly.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    And so it begins......

    Dutch lawyer is first person to be sentenced in Mueller probe, gets 30 days in prison






    Your room at the Trump Hilton is ready Mr. van der Zwaan......

    Wow. This is bad. I can't even believe it's actually come to this. This... This is very serious. This is on the level of driving without insurance. Who on earth would have thought a random Dutch lawyer would tell a lie. Unbelievable.

    Good to see Mueller finally blowing the lid off this investigation. Not only did he hand out imaginary indictments to Facebook trolls but now we know America's 2nd greatest geopolitical foe, the Dutch, have a hand in the collusion as well.
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    Originally Posted by Twerk4it View Post
    I have BuilttEV on ignore so I couldnt see what his autistic screeching...

    but wait, his dumbass actually thought this was libs training their toddlers to be afraid of Trump? LMFAO.

    Imagine how much of sad, humorless kunt you must be to see that gif and get angry rather than laugh.
    lol wtf? ok so it's fake.

    i dont keep up with political gifs. you think its funny that its people like you creating the divide in the country?

    you still got triggered at your RL situation that i pointed out. because it's true AF.

    youre obviously a brainwashed immigrant. let's see an avi.
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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    And the fact that there has been an investigation opened without the warrant of a crime, is scary and not something we should take lightly.
    The original FISA warrant was based on solid intel, primarily NOT the dossier.
    The Mueller investigation was brought on my the obvious obstruction of justice of the Comey firing as well as Trumps bizarre behavior in going against his own intel agencies who said that Meddling did happen and his hero worshiping of Putin.

    It's not even worth arguing. It is what it is and the results will be what they are. If Trump is clean then great... but something that should not have been done were done and someone did them. Maybe it was all Manafort? you know he's going to jail... but who knows, that's why we we just n
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post

    It almost happened.

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    It almost happened.

    So predictable.

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