Convince me why Gun Control is Bad.

[monty097]

Because it makes it harder for law-abiding, sane people who don't even remotely think about going out and shooting up a bunch of innocent people to buy a gun.

However it makes no difference to criminals as many of them already go outside the law to get guns, tightening up laws that they already aren't following won't do anything.

And Chicago has shown that tough gun laws don't work.

[Godfrd824]

OP's argument is flawed from the get go, places with more guns usually have less crime, know why that is? Because people are polite when they aren't sure if you're gonna blow them away or not.

I moved from Newark, NJ, one of the worst and most violent cities in this country. Guns are not legal there in any capacity, yet there are more gun crimes than almost anywhere in the country.

I now live in north VA, where everyone carries, and where I live is rated one of the safest and richest areas in this country.

Guns don't kill people, dumb asses kill people. When you regulate guns, all you do is make the non criminal citizenry unable to defend themselves. Guns are the great equalizer, with a gun, an 80 year old woman can defend herself against a 250lbs, 6'5, 25 year old who's high on PCP and looking to eat someone's face.

People are gonna do what they're gonna do. Look at China, some retard went full and killed like 30 people with a knife. If people want to do damage, they will.

What we need is education, scholastic education, gun education, and life education. People need to raise their kids to be able to cope with the fact that life is hard. Also, a more educated society is a less violent and less criminal society.

[DamagedAndDull]

OP's argument is flawed from the get go, places with more guns usually have less crime, know why that is? Because people are polite when they aren't sure if you're gonna blow them away or not.

I moved from Newark, NJ, one of the worst and most violent cities in this country. Guns are not legal there in any capacity, yet there are more gun crimes than almost anywhere in the country.

I now live in north VA, where everyone carries, and where I live is rated one of the safest and richest areas in this country.

Guns don't kill people, dumb asses kill people. When you regulate guns, all you do is make the non criminal citizenry unable to defend themselves. Guns are the great equalizer, with a gun, an 80 year old woman can defend herself against a 250lbs, 6'5, 25 year old who's high on PCP and looking to eat someone's face.

People are gonna do what they're gonna do. Look at China, some retard went full and killed like 30 people with a knife. If people want to do damage, they will.

What we need is education, scholastic education, gun education, and life education. People need to raise their kids to be able to cope with the fact that life is hard. Also, a more educated society is a less violent and less criminal society.

That's been proven wrong.


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...-it/ar-BBJsLYG

[Godfrd824]

That's been proven wrong.


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...-it/ar-BBJsLYG

https://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/mu...fter-gun-bans/

Maybe gun related crimes go down, because people don't have guns anymore, so opportunists or accidental discharges when performing a crime with a gun would be lessened, but facts don't lie. I think people want less murder, and think less guns will achieve that, not less guns, regardless of whether it helps the murder rate, don't you agree?

[DamagedAndDull]

https://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/mu...fter-gun-bans/

Maybe gun related crimes go down, because people don't have guns anymore, so opportunists or accidental discharges when performing a crime with a gun would be lessened, but facts don't lie. I think people want less murder, and think less guns will achieve that, not less guns, regardless of whether it helps the murder rate, don't you agree?

lol can you read? That chart shows a steady drop in recent years compared to the peak in the early 2000s. They had to take time to get the guns and of course there would be a knee jerk spike that's gone away for years now.

[Godfrd824]

lol can you read? That chart shows a steady drop in recent years compared to the peak in the early 2000s. They had to take time to get the guns and of course there would be a knee jerk spike that's gone away for years now.

It seems it's you that can't read. Look up the stats, I just did, it was higher in 2010 than it was in 1990. I wouldn't call that working. Even now there's less than a 10% difference in the rates, and that decrease can be attributed to many things, less guns is not one of them.

If you like being unable to defend yourself, be my guest, I'll keep my guns.

[Stizzel]

Okay Ameribrah's maybe I'm out of the loop, but why is Gun Control Bad for Americans? Is it because you can't act out of self defense in the case you get into a gun fight?

In that case, do you think that it would have been better if the teachers in the school all carried firearms in the recent shooting? What if one of the teachers go berserk one day after his family dies in a car crash, and he's mentally unstable and decides to shoot up the kids. In that case, should the children be carrying fire arms as well to shoot at the teacher? What if a group of kids starts bullying this one kid, and this one kid gets pissed off and shoots that bully, then another kid shoots that kid, and that kids friend shoots back?

So I guess guns are good then?

You have no right to tell me what property I can own

[chaunce54]

1. It doesn't work
2. We've already compromised too much on our rights
3. Shall not be infringed

PS, why don't we have to pass a background check to exercise any of our other rights? I'd love to see a background check requirement to vote...

[jackamo2887]

It. Doesn't. Work.

There is a lot more "heroine control" in this country...yet look at Baltimore.

[dakensta]

Why do so many morons equate gun control, with TAKEAWAYEVERYONE'SGUNSMUAHAHAHAAAA!!!?

[jackamo2887]

Why do so many morons equate gun control, with TAKEAWAYEVERYONE'SGUNSMUAHAHAHAAAA!!!?

Because that is the liberal definition of gun control..

[DamagedAndDull]

It seems it's you that can't read. Look up the stats, I just did, it was higher in 2010 than it was in 1990. I wouldn't call that working. Even now there's less than a 10% difference in the rates, and that decrease can be attributed to many things, less guns is not one of them.

If you like being unable to defend yourself, be my guest, I'll keep my guns.

It was barely higher in 2010, statistically insignificant difference. Why was it so much lower in 2010 than 2003?

[dakensta]

It. Doesn't. Work.

There is a lot more "heroine control" in this country...yet look at Baltimore.

Dieting doesn't work. Just about every fatass has been on a diet or is on one right now, and they're still fat.
Education doesn't work. Everyone goes to school, but there are still millions of dumabasses who can't read.
Exercise doesn't work. How many skinnyfat FAs go to the gym and are still skinnyfat FAs 2 years later? Loads.
Guns for self-defence don't work. In America there are millions of violent crimes every year where the victim doesn't defend themselves with a gun. Guns don't work. Period.
None of these things work. None of them do what they're advertised to do.
Well, they don't, if you do a really piss-poor, half-assed attempt at them, and then say it didn't work because it can't, rather than admit that you just did a really shytty job of it and that's why it didn't work.

[Harbinger]

"Shall not be infringed".

[Reflexez]

I got you fam, heres why:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Except it is infringed, because you're not allowed to own any type of "arms" you wish in the USA as some are banned/extremely hard to be allowed to own.

Where then do you draw a line on the infringement, if fully automatics are banned and that's fine under the constitution then how can the 2A be an argument that other types of guns can't be banned? Maybe the government let you have a powder loaded musket and that's your "arms" so you're still good.

I think most reasonable people on the "anti" gun side are more interested in making it harder to own a weapon if you're liable to be a threat, rather than "ban every gun in existence", if you're a sane and reasonable gun owner then there's little arguments to more background checks/not as easy access to weapons beyond the "I want it now not in x weeks" or the possible extra financial cost to cover running checks, neither of these are covered or infringement of 2A.

[eltoro24]

It was barely higher in 2010, statistically insignificant difference. Why was it so much lower in 2010 than 2003?

The center were that pic is sourced “crime prevention research center. Says they had a huge hiring spike in police that started in 2002 and peaked in 2010.

[DamagedAndDull]

The center were that pic is sourced “crime prevention research center. Says they had a huge hiring spike in police that started in 2002 and peaked in 2010.

Yeah police, not civilians with guns.

[Stizzel]

Except it is infringed, because you're not allowed to own any type of "arms" you wish in the USA as some are banned/extremely hard to be allowed to own.

Where then do you draw a line on the infringement, if fully automatics are banned and that's fine under the constitution then how can the 2A be an argument that other types of guns can't be banned? Maybe the government let you have a powder loaded musket and that's your "arms" so you're still good.

I think most reasonable people on the "anti" gun side are more interested in making it harder to own a weapon if you're liable to be a threat, rather than "ban every gun in existence", if you're a sane and reasonable gun owner then there's little arguments to more background checks/not as easy access to weapons beyond the "I want it now not in x weeks" or the possible extra financial cost to cover running checks, neither of these are covered or infringement of 2A.

Shall not be infringed just means the government. Theres nothing stoping market based regulations/restrictions.

And you're right the government has already started infringing. Turns out the slippery slope is real. Which is why it should not be allowed to continue.

[RonaldMcflurry]

Why do so many morons equate gun control, with TAKEAWAYEVERYONE'SGUNSMUAHAHAHAAAA!!!?

Because that is where it ends up. Have you ever heard of "give em an inch, they will take a mile"? Did you know that there was a time in this country when you could purchase or carry a sidearm anywhere without any licensing or background checks? There was a time when you could get dynamite without a license. I bet there was some idiot back then who was saying "Why do so many morons equate background checks with 'You can't carry your guns and exercise your rights freely anymore muahaahaaa'"


I notice that you didn't address the quote in the previous post either, just came with some liberal catch phrase.

[wickedman]

Why do so many morons equate gun control, with TAKEAWAYEVERYONE'SGUNSMUAHAHAHAAAA!!!?

Why didn't you care when Obama gave guns to the cartels that are now used by some of the greatest human rights violators in the modern era?

[hawkshade]

It. Doesn't. Work.

There is a lot more "heroine control" in this country...yet look at Baltimore.

Flawed argument. Heroin is not controlled it is illegal. brb brb brb

[hawkshade]

Why didn't you care when Obama gave guns to the cartels that are now used by some of the greatest human rights violators in the modern era?

Sources please? All I found was something about Rick Perry claiming that Obama gave guns to the cartels. So you not read or something?

http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...ry-says-obama/

Here read this article. Yes read. Don't just listen to what media says to you so you can parrot ****. Sick of uneducated idiots.

[Kansas123]

Because Murcia is land of the free not land of the slaved

The thing I don’t understand is why people are so worried about banning ARs when another semi automatic rifle can do the same damage?

[BlackJack619]

It's bad because our country is being influenced by our enemies, with bs propaganda, if only Americans realized we are still at war.

[Maestro]

We can't outright ban guns because its too ingrained in the culture and it won't work like it did in Aussie-land because we neighbor a borderline 3rd world country that smuggles guns in by the truckloads every day.

If anything drastic happens, it would be like prohibition all over again. Lots of resentment Al Capone groups popping up, underground black markets etc etc.

and hell with the advent of the internet anyone can just look up how to make their own gun. and if you have even a beginners level knowledge in how to weld and access to a hardware store, its a piece of cake.

If you've ever met a real gun nut, their guns are their lives and literally defines who they are.

[Dave22reborn]

Sources please? All I found was something about Rick Perry claiming that Obama gave guns to the cartels. So you not read or something?

http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...ry-says-obama/

Here read this article. Yes read. Don't just listen to what media says to you so you can parrot ****. Sick of uneducated idiots.

So is it right for a politician to demand his countrymen be disarmed, but will then sell those same evil weapons, to people in other countries?

[Dave22reborn]

Also, why can't leftists answer this.

As a police officer, I'm allowed to take my firearm home, and carry it off duty, anywhere throughout the country. Why should a law abiding civilian be denied this same right?

[Harbinger]

Also, why can't leftists answer this.

As a police officer, I'm allowed to take my firearm home, and carry it off duty, anywhere throughout the country. Why should a law abiding civilian be denied this same right?

bcuz feelz

[ToPHeR35]

Sources please? All I found was something about Rick Perry claiming that Obama gave guns to the cartels. So you not read or something?

http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...ry-says-obama/

Here read this article. Yes read. Don't just listen to what media says to you so you can parrot ****. Sick of uneducated idiots.

Says the moron quoting politifact...

[Dave22reborn]

bcuz feelz

Not one of them has answered me.