CNN and MSNBC: Twitter bots are literally pearl harbor

[N0rds]

What do you think Putin would have done if Americans were in Russia impersonating Russians, organizing political events, purchasing anti-Putin ads, and rallying and organizing against Putin?

You still ignore the fact that America does this 24/7 to every country.


And that Obama himself meddle in foreign elections on our dime, trying to swing their votes in Britain. Funny how the left is completely mum on those.

But MUH RUSSIA narrative is on its last legs, and they need to pump that baby for all shes worth before the real collusion comes down and the world realizes it wasn't trump, but the left colluding with russia this entire time. Indictments are coming, only 13 of the 13,000 have been unsealed. This is going to get good.

[Vito-C]

Trolling now "on par" with 9/11 and Pearl Harbor according to liberals.

That's enough internet for today.

[Stizzel]

What do you think Putin would have done if Americans were in Russia impersonating Russians, organizing political events, purchasing anti-Putin ads, and rallying and organizing against Putin?

Probably something similar to what the left wants done to americans that dont like hillary

[sawoobley]

The thing is...people actually agree with this. That's the place in the world we're in now, people actually think some twitter trolls are on par with dive bombing our ships in Hawaii. If you need evidence that people are completely, 100% mentally deranged, this is it.

Does that mean half of the misc are U.S. veterans for serving in the meme and twitter wars? I would love to get a purple heart.

[Sakeoe]

What do you think Putin would have done if Americans were in Russia impersonating Russians, organizing political events, purchasing anti-Putin ads, and rallying and organizing against Putin?

but.... they do?

I don't get the point of your post since thats literally what they do. And whenever Putin does something about it all we hear in the news is that it shows he is corrupt and the elections arent fair lol

[beowulf10]

Is this the first time Russia, or any foreign country interfered in our election? If not, why is it different and why should president trump need to take action when past presidents did not?

I think you know the answers, but would love to hear how you would twist this one.

I know of no other incident involving Russia.

It’s not the first time a foreign government interfered in our election. And there is a reason the founding fathers inserted the emoluments clause into the constitution to prevent the bribery of our elected officials.

It’s something that should be heavily discouraged and if Trump is caught having had worked with the Russians he should then be immediately impeached.

I shouldn’t have to give a lesson on civics and government in order to indicate that foreign government influence on our elections is bad and American elected officials working for foreign governments or compromised by foreign governments is bad.

At some point you just have to accept and believe in the system our founding fathers created or not accept it. It’s clear from your comments that at least some Trump supporters simply do not care about our Republic, it’s institutions, the Rule of Law, the constitution, or our Democracy. If you don’t care about these things there’s nothing I can say to convince you that what the Russians did is wrong or what Trump is suspected of doing is wrong. There is nothing I can do to persuade you if you think your own personal political views are more important than the Republic itself.

[canonhope]

What have the Russians actually done? I only flip the news on once a month or so. I remember it was first said they "hacked" the election, which made me wonder what states and voting machines are connected to the internet. I listened to news on radio today and it is now said that they "meddled" in the election.

edit: just read this thread and article

LOL this Russia probe thing is so dumb. What's the difference when a bunch of Americans get on FB and troll the UK on Brexit? LOL at people on whatever side making voting decisions on Twitter or FB.

[TelephoneLines]

So Russia did undoubtedly interfere with our election, they just barely had any impact. Can someone correct that if it is untrue? The money they spent it looks like is miniscule in comparison to what the campaigns and other sponsors, donors etc spent. The rallies they organized garnered little attention. If someone can show me where they had an impact and how this is a huge deal I am willing to listen.

[beowulf10]

but.... they do?

I don't get the point of your post since thats literally what they do. And whenever Putin does something about it all we hear in the news is that it shows he is corrupt and the elections arent fair lol

Let’s talk about it.

Describe to me how The U.S. government has interfered in Russian “elections”.

[rampagefc77]

I know of no other incident involving Russia.

It’s not the first time a foreign government interfered in our election. And there is a reason the founding fathers inserted the emoluments clause into the constitution to prevent the bribery of our elected officials.

It’s something that should be heavily discouraged and if Trump is caught having had worked with the Russians he should then be immediately impeached.

I shouldn’t have to give a lesson on civics and government in order to indicate that foreign government influence on our elections is bad and American elected officials working for foreign governments or compromised by foreign governments is bad.

At some point you just have to accept and believe in the system our founding fathers created or not accept it. It’s clear from your comments that at least some Trump supporters simply do not care about our Republic, it’s institutions, the Rule of Law, the constitution, or our Democracy. If you don’t care about these things there’s nothing I can say to convince you that what the Russians did is wrong or what Trump is suspected of doing is wrong. There is nothing I can do to persuade you if you think your own personal political views are more important than the Republic itself.

Define bribery. Does it include accepting millions of dollars from foreign countries into your foundation while you are in a position of power? Meanwhile the foundation flounders once the person has no political legs left to stand on?

Just curious.

[BullBoy8]

Let’s talk about it.

Describe to me how The U.S. government has interfered in Russian “elections”.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-med...eltsin/5568288

[JoshSP1985]

I wish I could laugh at these sort of things, but I can't. These lunatics actually believe what they are saying...


They will crush this republic and not even understand why.

I can't even.

#insert quote about democracy and thunderous applause#

[StrongMeat]

At some point people need to question if they are actively being lied to. And no not by news sources that you already don't trust.

2018 in a nutshell

-Have a belief
-Disagree with someone
-Search for evidence on the internet
-Find anything
-Believe it because it aligns with what you hold to be true

End of this year isn't going to be pretty

[ymer]

[img]http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1996/1101960715_400.jpg[/]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-med...eltsin/5568288

In before deflection and denial.

[x-trainer ben]

Obama was afraid of impacting the result, but he actively campaigned for hillary.

Makes sense bro

I am sure that you know good and well( since you are here all day long) that a president in ofice is not supposed to *SWAY the next election* by doing things that would influence the outcome. Obama sat on what he knew and sanctions were his choice. Yes those sanctions.....

[x-trainer ben]

You took history/world history class in SC right, you are allowed to campaign?

Presidents do campaign for their parties nominee.

Oh Benny... smh. Nothing? Nothing at all? Are you sure of that?







LMAO right.. It was Russian bots that made her look bad. She had absolutely nothing to do with it at all lolol.

[beowulf10]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-med...eltsin/5568288

Look at the difference:

"In February 1996, at the urging of the United States, the International Monetary Fund (which describes itself as “an organization of 188 countries, working to foster global monetary cooperation”) supplied a $10.2 billion “emergency infusion” to Russia"

We helped Russia with loans in order to stabilize and help nurture their democracy.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/02/23/wo...2-billion.html

"In a major election-year boost for President Boris N. Yeltsin, the International Monetary Fund and Russia agreed today on a $10.2 billion loan to carry forward the country's free-market reforms."

"Today's announcement followed the virtual embrace of Mr. Yeltsin by Western leaders alarmed about the growing support here for the Communist presidential candidate, Gennadi Zyuganov."

Yeltsin was no angel, but here the U.S. was doing it's best to stabilize and support the nascent Russian democracy. If the Communist had won there would certainly have been no further elections. I'm certain the U.S. could have helped Russia in a way that would have been more impactful and beneficial to the Russian people, but this was not the U.S. interfering in a Russian election. This was the U.S. trying to help Russia create a Democracy from scratch.

[beowulf10]

Define bribery. Does it include accepting millions of dollars from foreign countries into your foundation while you are in a position of power? Meanwhile the foundation flounders once the person has no political legs left to stand on?

Just curious.

YES!!!! And that is part of the reason she is NOT the President! It's also the reason why Trump must sell his assets outside of the U.S., and end his business deals outside of the U.S. so as to make himself immune from any such temptation.

For the love of God stop deflecting.

Trump is responsible for his OWN actions.

[Bushmaster]

You took history/world history class in SC right, you are allowed to campaign?

Presidents do campaign for their parties nominee.

Of course they campaign Benny. Lol this was your claim though...

Obama told us he was afraid to say or impact the election results so he did nothing.

Don't backpedal away from it now lol.

[beowulf10]

You still ignore the fact that America does this 24/7 to every country.

Be specific. What are you talking about?

Are you talking about America's attempts to prop up Democracy and the Rule of Law?

Are you talking about America's attempts to counter-act the Soviet Union's funding and support of Communist revolutions across the world?

Do you think these are actions the U.S. should not participate in, or should not have participated in?

And that Obama himself meddle in foreign elections on our dime, trying to swing their votes in Britain. Funny how the left is completely mum on those.

What do you mean? Are you talking about Obama speaking about the Rule of Law and Democracy, and the fact that Muslims should join the modern world? And that dictators and oligarchs shouldn't kill and murder their citizens?

Which speech are you talking about?

But MUH RUSSIA narrative is on its last legs, and they need to pump that baby for all shes worth before the real collusion comes down and the world realizes it wasn't trump, but the left colluding with russia this entire time. Indictments are coming, only 13 of the 13,000 have been unsealed. This is going to get good.

Okay. Here's the problem. Trump's actions indicate he either loves Putin and hates our country, or he has been compromised. Trump should be slapping on sanctions on the Russians and executing the law Congress passed. Trump should be supporting the rest of our government's efforts to dissuade Russia from interfering in future elections. Instead, what does he do? He blames EVERYONE but Putin for what happened.

[beowulf10]

Probably something similar to what the left wants done to americans that dont like hillary

Is it your assertion that the left in the U.S. wants to imprison political opponents, and assassinate journalists who report unfavorable news about them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lled_in_Russia

Do you seriously believe that?

If you don't, why are you trolling everyone and being dishonest or disingenuous in general?

You have some great points to make, and you can make them without lying. You participate in the same kind of thing you accuse CNN and MSNBC of doing. Wouldn't you like to get away from that and be honest, direct and clear? To show people the truth as you know it without exaggeration?

[x-trainer ben]

Don't know how to backpedal so there goes that. My specific claim was the president doing something to influence the outcome; that would mean bring up the entire Russia meddling/Bots/hacking for Trump.

Of course they campaign Benny. Lol this was your claim though...



Don't backpedal away from it now lol.

[Bushmaster]

Don't know how to backpedal so there goes that. My specific claim was the president doing something to influence the outcome; that would mean bring up the entire Russia meddling/Bots/hacking for Trump.

Or... campaigning even lol.

[N0rds]

Be specific. What are you talking about?

Are you talking about America's attempts to prop up Democracy and the Rule of Law?

Are you talking about America's attempts to counter-act the Soviet Union's funding and support of Communist revolutions across the world?

Do you think these are actions the U.S. should not participate in, or should not have participated in?



What do you mean? Are you talking about Obama speaking about the Rule of Law and Democracy, and the fact that Muslims should join the modern world? And that dictators and oligarchs shouldn't kill and murder their citizens?

Which speech are you talking about?



Okay. Here's the problem. Trump's actions indicate he either loves Putin and hates our country, or he has been compromised. Trump should be slapping on sanctions on the Russians and executing the law Congress passed. Trump should be supporting the rest of our government's efforts to dissuade Russia from interfering in future elections. Instead, what does he do? He blames EVERYONE but Putin for what happened.

In foreign, sovereign countries and their elections

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"What we do is only allowed when we do it to other countries" -Beoshill



The Trump<->Putin connection is dead. No matter how hard you shills beat it. Very few believe in Hillary's lies about it now. Time to put down the REEEEhorn.

[beowulf10]

In foreign, sovereign countries and their elections

In foreign, sovereign countries and their elections

In foreign, sovereign countries and their elections

In foreign, sovereign countries and their elections

In foreign, sovereign countries and their elections




"What we do is only allowed when we do it to other countries" -Beoshill



The Trump<->Putin connection is dead. No matter how hard you shills beat it. Very few believe in Hillary's lies about it now. Time to put down the REEEEhorn.

You think our opposition to communists over the past 60 to 70 years was wrong? Are you kidding me?

I don't think we have anything to apologize for when it came to our reaction to Communists fomenting revolts around the world. It was our duty to support our allies and our duty to the human species as a whole to fight back against Communist expansion and aggression.

In order to support Trump's terrible position on Russia you are basically casting away 60 to 70 years of America's foreign policy which the Conservatives lent their full support. Communism was a terrible system for people. Somehow, on a daily basis I am accused of being a liberal. But I don't think the Trump supports on this forum are actually conservatives. You have no idea what it means. You don't know the first thing about Conservatism. It's not a Conservative value to be soft on Communists.

Wtf were we supposed to do? We should have let the Communists do whatever the f they want? Is that your argument?

Further, I don't think we have anything to apologize for when it comes to supporting other people across the world who believe in Democracy and the Rule of Law. They need our support. It is our obligation as the preeminent Democracy in the world to lend them that support. Further, it is in our best interests for the world to have more countries like our own, not fewer. If we do things like work with the UN to send election monitors to regions where the Rule of Law doesn't fully exist, or criticize, publicly, authoritarian regimes who put on sham elections, I mean, that's a good thing. That's supporting Democracy. That's supporting elections. Not interfering. Why would you think that a) it would be bad for us to do, and b) we would have no right to do it, and c) it would not be in OUR interests to do it?

The root of our current problem is we have a President who is acting contrary to our interests. That's the problem. And THAT is why he is being criticized, and rightfully so. Trump should be OUR President. Not PUTIN's President.

[Cleveland33]

You think our opposition to communists over the past 60 to 70 years was wrong? Are you kidding me?

I don't think we have anything to apologize for when it came to our reaction to Communists fomenting revolts around the world. It was our duty to support our allies and our duty to the human species as a whole to fight back against Communist expansion and aggression.

In order to support Trump's terrible position on Russia you are basically casting away 60 to 70 years of America's foreign policy which the Conservatives lent their full support. Communism was a terrible for people. Somehow, on a daily basis I am accused of being a liberal. But I don't think the Trump supports on this forum are actually conservatives. You don't know the first thing about Conservatism. It's not a Conservative value to be soft on Communists.

Wtf were we supposed to do? We should have let the Communists do whatever the f they want? No. Why would you think that would be okay?

Further, I don't think we have anything to apologize for when it comes to supporting other people across the world who believe in Democracy and the Rule of Law. They need our support. It is our obligation as the preeminent Democracy in the world to lend them that support. Further, it is in our best interests for the world to have more countries like our own, not fewer. If we do things like work with the UN to send election monitors to regions where the Rule of Law doesn't fully exist, or criticize publicly authoritarian regimes who put on sham elections, I mean, that's a good thing. That's supporting Democracy. That's supporting elections. Not interfering.

I think he was referring more specifically to the involvement the previous regime had in Russia and Israel's last elections, respectively.

[beowulf10]

I think he was referring more specifically to the involvement the previous regime had in Russia and Israel's last elections, respectively.

What involvement did the previous "regime" have in Russia's election?

[miscinbro]

I think he was referring more specifically to the involvement the previous regime had in Russia and Israel's last elections, respectively.

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that Clinton, Obama, reptilians, whatever, did these bad things they are still bad. That’s the point. This isn’t the NFL where two penalty flags cancel each other out.

[Cleveland33]

What involvement did the previous "regime" have in Russia's election?

Sending chit tons of money and most likely the spread of misinformation

[beowulf10]

Sending chit tons of money and most likely the spread of misinformation

On what are you basing this assertion? Do you have a link? What do you mean by chit tons of money? To whom was this money sent? What do you mean about the spread of misinformation? Would you describe this misinformation?