UFC 221: Romero vs. Rockhold -The Official Live Chat Discussion Thread!

[shoelaces]

Jesus christ. That second punch was completely unnecessary. He was out of it after the first shot. The way he held up rockhold's head to tee off on him...just brutal.

These are the kind of shots that people get alzheimers later in life from. If I was rockhold I'd retire. After a certain point your life is important than chasing fame or money.

[MMAMatty]

After seeing it again, that straight left was a lot cleaner than I initially thought. Luke just got caught first.

And when a gorilla like Romero hits ya' clean, it's good night sweet prince.

Props to Romero.

I'll be the first to admit: I didn't think he could do it. And I was wrong.

[sooby]

Man rockhold was out cold after that first punch, you can even see it in Luke's eyes he was dazed and didn't know where the fuk he was...



fukn Romero LMFAO man's is the worlds best unintentional entertainer and brings the lulz and memworthy chit every time

Dude proceeds to KTFO Rockhold, then kisses Luke on the cheek and says I love you to assert further dominance. At that point you might as well take your shorts off, bend over and let Romero make sweet gay natty jesus love to you. There is no recovering from this, Luke has a new cuban daddy, LMFAO.


P4P undefeated gay natty daddy Jesus Romero

[Groce]

Feel bad for Luke, time for Weidman rematch?

[Millington]

I was on the Luke Rockhold bandwagon long before he was in the UFC. There was a time when he was a killer, and people still think of him as that guy, however unwarranted in recent fights.

But the truth is that he hasn't been the same since the Machida fight. That fight with Weidman was the first sense that I got that something was wrong there. Maybe it was USADA? Maybe he really had antibiotics that were screwing him up like he said, because he was slower, much less dynamic, and chinny than he had previously been. But if that's true, he was on one seriously long course of antibiotics, because he looked basically the same for the Bisping and Branch fights as he did for the Weidman fight.

With all that said, I thought he looked like the old Rockhold last night. Those kicks were coming at a ridiculous speed, particularly for a middleweight.

But sometimes you just get caught. MMA is one hell of an unpredictable thing.

I thought he looked bad for different reasons in the Weidman fight vs. Branch/Bisping. The latter two were more an issue of defensive irresponsibility (that sadly he showed flashes of last night too).

I agree that he looked pretty good last night in other areas, he had some nice kicks and his jab was just starting to pick up. Very disappointing.

[Carbonfibre]

You know what would be exciting Romero vs Woodley


Both have explosive power.

[sword_]

[ilykejordans]

is it just me or is yoel always slipping

[MMAMatty]

https://streamable.com/2n977

LOL @ This. Repped.

[DrewDarden]

lol what's this about?

[sooby]

it's crazy that Yoel is doing this at 40 years old


it's almost like he's found a fountain of youth or a fountain of supplements

[BalkanKing]

it's crazy that Yoel is doing this at 40 years old


it's almost like he's found a fountain of youth or a fountain of supplements

[sword_]

lol what's this about?

lol no idea. I guess Luke is that unlikable.

[sooby]

or alistair's horsemeat farm

touche

[EoR]

Jesus christ. That second punch was completely unnecessary. He was out of it after the first shot. The way he held up rockhold's head to tee off on him...just brutal.

These are the kind of shots that people get alzheimers later in life from. If I was rockhold I'd retire. After a certain point your life is important than chasing fame or money.

Yeah. There's a difference between a follow up if you're unsure, but he was sure. Luke was basically out, arms spread wide, defenseless, eyes rolled back, it was obvious it was over. That was an uncalled for full force uppercut. Hopefully one day someone shows Yoel the same disrespect. A shot like that can ruin your life, and in some cases even kill you.

[Millington]

Yeah. There's a difference between a follow up if you're unsure, but he was sure. Luke was basically out, arms spread wide, defenseless, eyes rolled back, it was obvious it was over. That was an uncalled for full force uppercut. Hopefully one day someone shows Yoel the same disrespect. A shot like that can ruin your life, and in some cases even kill you.

That's totally ridiculous. You don't know whether he was sure and you're making that determination with the benefit of hindsight and under far more favorable circumstances. Romero wasn't calmly reviewing an instant replay from a computer while completely detached from the action, roaring crowd, effects of adrenaline, and personal investment in outcome.

[VladimirVega]

This guy should shut the f*ck up and mind his own business. This ugly steroid cheat has no right to call someone a „bad person“ (whatever that means). He can‘t win a fight so save his life nowadays.

[AltarOfPlagues]

how many people can hit a double from the knees in the olympics?



space alien.

[Groce]

This guy should shut the f*ck up and mind his own business. This ugly steroid cheat has no right to call someone a „bad person“ (whatever that means). He can‘t win a fight so save his life nowadays.

Agreed can't stand that *******, whenever he ko'd somebody in the UFC he would stand over them yelling chit in their faces like a scumbag piece of trash, and he has the audacity to talk chit to an elite top 5 talent losing by ko when he's 1-9 in his last 10 and constantly getting KTFO in hilarious fashion, always lol when he lumbers over like a big oak tree. Fuk that guy.

[wake_me]

This guy should shut the f*ck up and mind his own business. This ugly OJ cheat has no right to call someone a „bad person“ (whatever that means). He can‘t win a fight so save his life nowadays.

1. Might want to edit your post, or risk getting banned.

2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is his use of supplements was basically the only legit case, due to his gigantism, or has he had other failed drug tests.

[Singularity7]

That's totally ridiculous. You don't know whether he was sure and you're making that determination with the benefit of hindsight and under far more favorable circumstances. Romero wasn't calmly reviewing an instant replay from a computer while completely detached from the action, roaring crowd, effects of adrenaline, and personal investment in outcome.

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[chalup]

Damn he must be extremely butthurt for going like 0/7, lmao.

[sooby]

That's totally ridiculous. You don't know whether he was sure and you're making that determination with the benefit of hindsight and under far more favorable circumstances. Romero wasn't calmly reviewing an instant replay from a computer while completely detached from the action, roaring crowd, effects of adrenaline, and personal investment in outcome.

This exactly. I have no idea why that would be controversial at all. Literally every fighter with a KO has done the same chit so are we going to complain about that too? Gonzaga vs Cro Cop, Ngannou vs Alistair? Henderson vs Bisping 1?

It's pretty much an unwritten rule that you keep fighting until the ref stops it. And refs usually do a relatively decent job of doing so unless you're Mario Yamasaki. Why risk a person recovering from shots and miss out on an opportunity to fully put your opponent away definitively. Literally happens all the time, Luke Rockhold just happens to be glass-chinned so one shot put him away. He still had his eyes open, slumped against the cage so it's better to be safe than sorry and deliver the finishing blow. It's not a fighter's job to calmly assess the situation from afar as Millington mentioned for like 5 seconds and make a determination whether or not Rockhold was knocked unconscious. You're in the moment, fighting for a title shot, loud as fuk crowd, adrenaline pumping. Aint nobody got time for dat chit.

[Scarrdbutsmartr]

This exactly. I have no idea why that would be controversial at all. Literally every fighter with a KO has done the same chit so are we going to complain about that too? Gonzaga vs Cro Cop, Ngannou vs Alistair? Henderson vs Bisping 1?

It's pretty much an unwritten rule that you keep fighting until the ref stops it. And refs usually do a relatively decent job of doing so unless you're Mario Yamasaki. Why risk a person recovering from shots and miss out on an opportunity to fully put your opponent away definitively. Literally happens all the time, Luke Rockhold just happens to be glass-chinned so one shot put him away. He still had his eyes open, slumped against the cage so it's better to be safe than sorry and deliver the finishing blow. It's not a fighter's job to calmly assess the situation from afar as Millington mentioned for like 5 seconds and make a determination whether or not Rockhold was knocked unconscious. You're in the moment, fighting for a title shot, loud as fuk crowd, adrenaline pumping. Aint nobody got time for dat chit.

You are not wrong at all...in fact you are right. The other side of the coin is that Mark Hunt walks off after he scores a fight ending blow. He has the same amount of adrenaline and his opponents have the same option to recover. To simply excuse fighters blows because they are "in" the fight requires you to excuse and or justify actions like the final blow in Bisping vs Henderson.

I do feel Romero was just "in" the fight and there was nothing malicious. To simply say a fighter cant maintain control and potentially prevent long term injury is a bridge too far for me, however. The refs should deal with this but everyone explodes when there is an early stoppage.

[sooby]

You are not wrong at all...in fact you are right. The other side of the coin is that Mark Hunt walks off after he scores a fight ending blow. He has the same amount of adrenaline and his opponents have the same option to recover. To simply excuse fighters blows because they are "in" the fight requires you to excuse and or justify actions like the final blow in Bisping vs Henderson.

I do feel Romero was just "in" the fight and there was nothing malicious. To simply say a fighter cant maintain control and potentially prevent long term injury is a bridge too far for me, however. The refs should deal with this but everyone explodes when there is an early stoppage.

Mark Hunt is an exception and one of the relative few, it just happens that when he knocks somebody out they don't move but at the same time he also risks a fighter being able to move and recover from that shot.



even here, Mark Hunt walks off but you can see him come back because he wasn't sure if he was knocked out. Plus he sort of become known for the walk-off KO so I think he started to do it after he would hit somebody with punch that would knock them down hard.

[sword_]

[BalkanKing]

lol i saw that, had like evolution of luke from hair to that. guy should go on rogaine now, my hair is full now

[PepperedAngus]

Jesus christ. That second punch was completely unnecessary. He was out of it after the first shot. The way he held up rockhold's head to tee off on him...just brutal.

These are the kind of shots that people get alzheimers later in life from. If I was rockhold I'd retire. After a certain point your life is important than chasing fame or money.

His eyes were still open, he was sitting up, and the ref hadnt stepped in to stop it yet...it was completely necessary. You fight until the fight is stopped, it would be foolish to let a TKO slip away by hesitating and allowing your opponent to recover. These guys sometimes bounce back from insane punishment really quickly, it was Yoels job to jump in there and finish him off.

It was brutal looking, but he did absolutely nothing wrong by putting the stamp on that fight and sending it home.

[Hardcore_D00d]

Tai Tuivasa might be my new favorite fighter

[PepperedAngus]

Tai Tuivasa might be my new favorite fighter

The guy is entertaining as all hell for sure. before, during, and after a fight. His dont give a fook attitude in pressers is pretty funny, and hes a scrapper.