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    9200 bounce then moon time?



    Just trying to keep thing positive
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    Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g View Post
    Lol. There is no such thing as support
    on the way down. Just resistance on the way up. These whales are ruthless
    well, well, well, how the turntables.....


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    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    the next support is right below the price now, around 9800, as the lower fib line I posted a screenshot of yesterday. So for now it looks like a very healthy and expected bounce off of that one, no reason to worry about a drop as of now
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    I am no TA savant but 9800 is what I see as well.
    oops my bad, 9800 then 9300 lol i thought we had already broken the 9800 one but we were slightly above
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    9200 bounce then moon time?



    Just trying to keep thing positive
    It's on the table.. but if fails to hold low 9k to 8.9k area then this starts to look like a beautiful collapse.. pretty critical moments approaching in my mind as whether that areas holds or not I would likely think dictates our actual direction for the medium term.. will we experience a legitimate bear market that takes a year or more or will support hold and a gigantic rally beyond my comprehension is in order..
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    Originally Posted by HeBrewHammah View Post
    Brah, using TA, I successfully flip @ each H/L because I know it's coming. Srs.


    You can hate all you want, but while you're simply waiting for btc to go up, I'm clearing a couple hundred per trade almost daily.
    Each H and L? That would put you in the top .001% of traders.

    Care to export your trade history and post your perfect trading record? I'd love to marvel at your brillance.

    Originally Posted by Crownbrah View Post
    It's on the table.. but if fails to hold low 9k to 8.9k area then this starts to look like a beautiful collapse.. pretty critical moments approaching in my mind as whether that areas holds or not I would likely think dictates our actual direction for the medium term.. will we experience a legitimate bear market that takes a year or more or will support hold and a gigantic rally beyond my comprehension is in order..
    Completely agree, but if it doesn't hold I still think the bottom is anyone's guess at this point, $5K or $5, take your pick.

    Really respect your TA. I am curious to what portion of BTC you hold vs trade. Care to give a very top line view of you BTC strategy in those regards?
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    Completely agree, but if it doesn't hold I still think the bottom is anyone's guess at this point, $5K or $5, take your pick.
    Yep it would make me think we will very very likely see a new low under 6k.. where that may fall can't really know and thats what I don't like about elliot waves.. they truly are trying to predict moves and to me I just can't trust that.. I've seen maybe a couple people get it right but even then they use it as a secondary confirmation rather than a straight prediction

    with that said 4.9k to 5.2k would be the first area I would look for that could have some bottoming action.

    Sadly the more I look at this chart I get very wary if BTC can't even bounce at this 9.8k region.. I would heavily expect a bounce at low 9k but is it a relief rally or a real rally is the question that's on my mind.
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    Originally Posted by Crownbrah View Post
    Yep it would make me think we will very very likely see a new low under 6k.. where that may fall can't really know and thats what I don't like about elliot waves.. they truly are trying to predict moves and to me I just can't trust that.. I've seen maybe a couple people get it right but even then they use it as a secondary confirmation rather than a straight prediction

    with that said 4.9k to 5.2k would be the first area I would look for that could have some bottoming action.

    Sadly the more I look at this chart I get very wary if BTC can't even bounce at this 9.8k region.. I would heavily expect a bounce at low 9k but is it a relief rally or a real rally is the question that's on my mind.
    You are too quick, I just edited my post above to ask the following:

    Really respect your TA. I am curious to what portion of BTC you hold vs trade. Care to give a very top line view of you BTC strategy in those regards?
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post

    Completely agree, but if it doesn't hold I still think the bottom is anyone's guess at this point, $5K or $5, take your pick.

    Really respect your TA. I am curious to what portion of BTC you hold vs trade. Care to give a very top line view of you BTC strategy in those regards?


    Hey thanks haha! Well I have a core position which is about half my portfolio that is just a hold at all costs unless Armageddon happens as I have bought in near the prior 6k low.. the other half I use on margin and then whatever I make (or lose) there gets sent to my long holds. This current environment is deadly for inexperienced traders so really my whole strategy right now is very small compared to when things are boomin. When things are like they were last Dec then I'll trade a bigger portion with more margin longs on the cryptos I actually believe in

    Overall my strategy is to increase BTC over time.. the big advantage in my mind for trading on margin is that in a way I can have a large core position and use that as collateral to trade for more btc.. So essentially the collateral benefits from any upticks and I'm still able to use that to trade.. kinda greedy in a way but when the right market presents itself you gotta work it to your advantage.. It's incredibly good in bull markets but too risky to pull off in downtrends or bear markets
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    Each H and L? That would put you in the top .001% of traders.

    Care to export your trade history and post your perfect trading record? I'd love to marvel at your brillance.

    Well, not literal in every single one(although I wish), I don't have any perfect record, but I've perfected my strategy for btc. Isn't really all that hard nor unrealistic, even if you only made one flip per week. I've experimented with this for a while, and loss a few times off actually using the stop-loss limit. I use only limits now, I'd rather an order not be filled than potentially lose out, and I make them al manually by setting alerts on my phone.


    I play with a few thousand, simple math: 2500/9000 = approx. 0.277btc * say 12500 which is very realistic in a days time = 3472. clear 900, by 52 weeks, that's an extra 50k yearly, obviously before taxes and such.

    There's so much money to be made off its volatility.
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    Hey thanks haha! Well I have a core position which is about half my portfolio that is just a hold at all costs unless Armageddon happens as I have bought in near the prior 6k low.. the other half I use on margin and then whatever I make (or lose) there gets sent to my long holds. This current environment is deadly for inexperienced traders so really my whole strategy right now is very small compared to when things are boomin. When things are like they were last Dec then I'll trade a bigger portion with more margin longs on the cryptos I actually believe in

    Overall my strategy is to increase BTC over time.. the big advantage in my mind for trading on margin is that in a way I can have a large core position and use that as collateral to trade for more btc.. So essentially the collateral benefits from any upticks and I'm still able to use that to trade.. kinda greedy in a way but when the right market presents itself you gotta work it to your advantage.. It's incredibly good in bull markets but too risky to pull off in downtrends or bear markets
    Interesting, thanks. So you will take trade profits and move them into long holds regardless of current price points? Or are you trading frequently enough that you are essentially DCAing into those positions? Or waiting for dips to move profits into long term holds? Just trying to get a better feel for what people who actually know what they are doing with TA and trade handle their overall portfolio.
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    The drop timing is good for me because I'm getting more money in soon. Will buy more BTC, ETH and NEO and maybe some other stuff and will just hold.

    I'm done with trading because the times I've tried it (January mainly) I always end up either losing money or losing my position. So I'm going back to buy and hold crew.

    Current main holdings are BTC, ETH, NEO. Plus on Kucoin I still have OCN and DRGN left from my trading period but I'm just going to forget about that lol.
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    Yeah pretty much, I don't care what price point profits came at as I'm more concerned with making more BTC than USD.. this could be an error in my strategy but my long term bias is that BTC will be higher in general so that's essentially my risk here.

    Ah I guess I should've mentioned that I keep pretty much everything in BTC except for a couple alts haha

    but really my strategy in a market like this where we're kinda still figuring out our long term macro direction is to just simply survive.. Capital preservation is my goal here
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    The drop timing is good for me because I'm getting more money in soon. Will buy more BTC, ETH and NEO and maybe some other stuff and will just hold.

    I'm done with trading because the times I've tried it (January mainly) I always end up either losing money or losing my position. So I'm going back to buy and hold crew.

    Current main holdings are BTC, ETH, NEO. Plus on Kucoin I still have OCN and DRGN left from my trading period but I'm just going to forget about that lol.
    I like the hold choices. Most people should stay clear of trading. Even the vast majority who are making money are not outpacing the market in the long term so they are just hurting themselves although they think they are winning. DCAing and holding is a great strategy if you believe crypto will continue to grow overall, just spend time researching and investing in good projects to maximize growth.

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    Yeah pretty much, I don't care what price point profits came at as I'm more concerned with making more BTC than USD.. this could be an error in my strategy but my long term bias is that BTC will be higher in general so that's essentially my risk here.

    Ah I guess I should've mentioned that I keep pretty much everything in BTC except for a couple alts haha

    but really my strategy in a market like this where we're kinda still figuring out our long term macro direction is to just simply survive.. Capital preservation is my goal here
    Yea, that makes perfect sense, not sure it's an error as I think most would guess BTC passes 20k at some point.

    What do you margin trade on? Aren't the option in the US limited?
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    I like the hold choices. Most people should stay clear of trading. Even the vast majority who are making money are not outpacing the market in the long term so they are just hurting themselves although they thing they are winning. DCAing and holding is a great strategy if you believe crypto will continue to grow overall, just spend time researching and investing in good projects to maximize growth.



    Yea, that makes perfect sense, not sure it's an error as I think most would guess BTC passes 20k at some point.

    What do you margin trade on? Aren't the option in the US limited?
    Yes sadly they are limited.. if you're interested in learning how to get access to the best exchanges then send me a PM.. I'll set you up with the best one that'll reduce your trading fees and actually on this exchange if you put in limit orders they pay you when you get filled.. win-win
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    Hey thanks haha! Well I have a core position which is about half my portfolio that is just a hold at all costs unless Armageddon happens as I have bought in near the prior 6k low.. the other half I use on margin and then whatever I make (or lose) there gets sent to my long holds. This current environment is deadly for inexperienced traders so really my whole strategy right now is very small compared to when things are boomin. When things are like they were last Dec then I'll trade a bigger portion with more margin longs on the cryptos I actually believe in

    Overall my strategy is to increase BTC over time.. the big advantage in my mind for trading on margin is that in a way I can have a large core position and use that as collateral to trade for more btc.. So essentially the collateral benefits from any upticks and I'm still able to use that to trade.. kinda greedy in a way but when the right market presents itself you gotta work it to your advantage.. It's incredibly good in bull markets but too risky to pull off in downtrends or bear markets
    Any advice for a novice who is down 30 percent? I am starting to consider just pulling out and only coming back in when the market is strong.
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    Any advice for a novice who is down 30 percent? I am starting to consider just pulling out and only coming back in when the market is strong.
    it's not a bad strat.. can't lose money if you're not trading!

    but really, the game is already hard enough.. lots of pros losing their accounts in this type of market. there's no shame in coming back when an actual uptrend is established
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