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    Post Official memo discussion thread

    Now that we are just hours away from the release we need a new thread for discussion actual contents. This won’t be a thread for speculation or coping, but for actually discussion what we learn from the memo.





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    Paul Ryan explicitly stated that this likely nothing burger memo won't impact Mueller or his investigation.

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    Originally Posted by dj924s View Post
    It don't matter what it says

    Right wing- "It doesn't mean what you think it means, 3D chess, winning!"
    Left wing- "It doesn't mean what you think it means, atrocious, impeach!"

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    Originally Posted by dj924s View Post
    It don't matter what it says

    Right wing- "It doesn't mean what you think it means, 3D chess, winning!"
    Left wing- "It doesn't mean what you think it means, atrocious, impeach!"

    Bickering starts, blind followers cheer for their team, and against the opposition. And our attentions will once again be averted from the real issues.
    "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

    From real issues?? I’d say transgressions being carried out by intelligence agencies is a real issue. But like I said, we’ll have to wait and see what the memo exposes.
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    Originally Posted by dj924s View Post
    It don't matter what it says

    Right wing- "It doesn't mean what you think it means, 3D chess, winning!"
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    Bickering starts, blind followers cheer for their team, and against the opposition. And our attentions will once again be averted from the real issues.
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    If Nunez had any integrity at all, he would just release the official documents instead of this stupid memo
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    Potus is setting the board with some early morning tweets....so it seems the Dossier was in part used to attain a FISA warrant which we suspected. My question is, how was the information in the Dossier presented to the FISA judge? Did the FBI obscure it's origins? Surely a FISA judge would reject opposition research in an application.....
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    NYT going full beyblade super spin.

    "Intelligence experts" say it’s unlikely that Steele’s intelligence formed the sole basis for a warrant, and legally, there was no problem with the F.B.I. using information Steele had gathered, even if Democrats "helped" fund his work.
    Brb it's okay for the Dems to use the FBI against political opponents

    Nevertheless, Republicans seem to think that if they can show that the F.B.I. cited Steele in seeking a warrant on Page, they can prove that the whole Russia investigation is a partisan frame-up. It doesn’t really make sense, but it’s not necessarily meant to.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Potus is setting the board with some early morning tweets....so it seems the Dossier was in part used to attain a FISA warrant which we suspected. My question is, how was the information in the Dossier presented to the FISA judge? Did the FBI obscure it's origins? Surely a FISA judge would reject opposition research in an application.....
    I don't know why more people aren't outraged about this dossier. The whole thing is an embarrassment for the FBI

    A foreign agent paid by the DNC created a dossier that had some truths in it. The FBI takes it, runs with it and here we are

    How is this acceptable to anyone?

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    Dont matter if the memo is damaging or just "meh"

    Trump is winning the game and turned the media around on the left. The Dems are the ones that are in deny & deflect mode which means Trump is controlling the media narrative.

    Im seeing mixed reviews on the memo but its the IG report that will be the most damaging to the Dems/FBI/DOJ etc.


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    A couple of congressmen claimed, last night, that the FBI left out key facts when presenting their case to the fisa courts
    Ironic if true. FBI is claiming the memo is leaving out key facts that alter the perception of the memo

    Congressmen also point to 4 key points to the memo
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    I don't know why more people aren't outraged about this dossier. The whole thing is an embarrassment for the FBI

    A foreign agent paid by the DNC created a dossier that had some truths in it. The FBI takes it, runs with it and here we are

    How is this acceptable to anyone?

    Imagine Trump paying a Russian agent to create a dossier on Hillary. beowulf and iceman would go into fill meltdown mode
    Pretty much. Anyone who was part of that should be fired from the FBI immediately. Let's also point out that Carter Page has not been charged with any crime. So what exactly did those wiretaps on Page reveal if he was suspected of being a foreign agent, or, what was the probable cause thast he was?
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    Dont matter if the memo is damaging or just "meh"

    Trump is winning the game and turned the media around on the left. The Dems are the ones that are in deny & deflect mode which means Trump is controlling the media narrative.

    Im seeing mixed reviews on the memo but its the IG report that will be the most damaging to the Dems/FBI/DOJ etc.


    The memo still may be held onto until Monday for release.





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    Ya the Dems are going to be the ones on the defense from here on out it seems like. I hear this memo is only 10% of what is coming. As soon it starts losing traction, drip out some more...

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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    Dont matter if the memo is damaging or just "meh"

    Trump is winning the game and turned the media around on the left. The Dems are the ones that are in deny & deflect mode which means Trump is controlling the media narrative.
    This is important, normally Republicans are the ones getting their asses scorched.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    This is important, normally Republicans are the ones getting their asses scorched.
    Yup Trump has the Dems on their heels over this and makes it even harder for them to counter since US is doing well and Trump killing his SOTU speech...I mean Trump has the Dems going on talks shows, writing letters to the house and senate heads to block the memo, writing their own memo, the media is trying to help, hell even the FBI is forced to release a statement on the memo.

    If the Dems want to play politics instead of doing something then Trump sure looks like not only he can hang but can play the game a lot better.
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    First it was yesterday, maybe today. Now its today, maybe Monday.

    Release the effing thing.
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    Originally Posted by Forty0zFreedom View Post
    First it was yesterday, maybe today. Now its today, maybe Monday.

    Release the effing thing.
    This, I wont believe it till I see it.

    It's possible it's being strung along some to build hype so that it has a as big of a reach/impact as possible when it drops.
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    I don't know why more people aren't outraged about this dossier. The whole thing is an embarrassment for the FBI

    A foreign agent paid by the DNC created a dossier that had some truths in it. The FBI takes it, runs with it and here we are

    How is this acceptable to anyone?

    Imagine Trump paying a Russian agent to create a dossier on Hillary. beowulf and iceman would go into fill meltdown mode
    But we don't know if this is what really happened. Neither does Nunez, he hasn't seen the FISA warrant.
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    Originally Posted by Forty0zFreedom View Post
    First it was yesterday, maybe today. Now its today, maybe Monday.

    Release the effing thing.
    I keep seeing different stories on the release....I heard the WH already gave it the OK to be release and I also seen that Trump needs to sign off on it again after already giving it the OK ..lol IDK

    I could see waiting til Monday just because big stories that break on Friday or over the weekend does not get much coverage in the media
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    Originally Posted by seven11 View Post
    But we don't know if this is what really happened. Neither does Nunez, he hasn't seen the FISA warrant.
    Let's assume its true. We already know a good portion of what I posted is

    How do you feel about this investigation?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Paul Ryan explicitly stated that this likely nothing burger memo won't impact Mueller or his investigation.

    Going to be the unmasking scandal V2.0
    Much like the Bush torture memos and Snowden mass surveillance documents (even after Clapper lied to Congress about NSA surveillance) were a nothingburger
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    Dont matter if the memo is damaging or just "meh"

    Trump is winning the game and turned the media around on the left. The Dems are the ones that are in deny & deflect mode which means Trump is controlling the media narrative.

    Im seeing mixed reviews on the memo but its the IG report that will be the most damaging to the Dems/FBI/DOJ etc.


    The memo still may be held onto until Monday for release.


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