Looking for what this community has to say about different ways and strategies to lower caloric intake the all natural way.
No pills, no shakes, just pure advice.. thanks.
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01-21-2018, 02:15 PM #1
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01-21-2018, 02:20 PM #2
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01-21-2018, 02:20 PM #3
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01-21-2018, 02:33 PM #4
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01-21-2018, 11:34 PM #5
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01-22-2018, 12:04 AM #6
Select lean protein sources, lots of vegetables, minimally processed whole grains especially oats.
A diet high in protein, fiber and food volume will naturally make you eat less calories.Recommended science based fitness & nutrition information:
Alan Aragon https://alanaragon.com/
Brad Schoenfeld http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/
James Krieger https://weightology.net/
Jorn Trommelen http://www.nutritiontactics.com/
Eric Helms & Team3DMJ https://3dmusclejourney.com/
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01-22-2018, 04:47 AM #7
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01-22-2018, 05:19 AM #8
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01-22-2018, 06:24 AM #9
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01-22-2018, 06:27 AM #10
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01-22-2018, 06:37 AM #11
I would be 600 lb. They would remove a door in my house and have that retarded TV show film me as I'm transported to a doctor who will be cutting off parts of me and sticking a vacuum cleaner under my skin to suck the fat out.
Then he'd give me "valuable" nutrition advice as most doctors do... (insert eye roll here) such as to eat only when I'm hungry, and to follow a diet based on whole grains and "clean" eating. Then the whole thing would repeat a few weeks later.
Like think of absolutely everything that is in your fridge right now, and what's in your neighbor's fridge. I would eat all of that in 4 minutes, and not feel a thing if I ate when hungry lel
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01-22-2018, 08:01 AM #12
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01-22-2018, 09:53 AM #13
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01-22-2018, 10:14 AM #14
I'm hungry 24/7/365. I can have 3'500 calorie per day with low/moderate activity, and if I allow myself I would stop by a burger place right now and eat a double cheese (bloody) with large fries, a large vanilla milk shake, a large coke. Probably some more stuff as well. Then a few hours later I'd order a pizza and eat the whole pie by myself. Been there done that. I can go from 190 lb 10% bf (about what my av shows) to about 230 lb ~16% in an alarmingly short period of time. With zero slow down in my hunger and love for various foods. A look in the mirror at 230 lbs forces me to stop "eating when hungry".
Of course I"m joking about 600, but who knows... I have no doubts I would hit 300 relatively easily. And it ain't gonna look pretty.
Lyle said something similar in an interview about "eating normally". Just eat "normally" they said... Lyle goes: "I'd be 300 lbs if I eat normally" Or something to that effect.
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01-22-2018, 10:21 AM #15
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That doesn't answer my question really, because you're not talking about 'eating when hungry', you're talking about 'eating whatever I want with zero regards for how satiated it'll make me' and also disregarding how crappy it'd make you perform, as well as a host of other factors.
Given you've probably been educated on what foods make you full/satisfied etc, I think you could probably make wiser/balanced decisions to satisfy hunger without putting on the kind of weight you imagine. You can 'eat when hungry' and still pick and choose foods you know won't cause you to chronically overeat.
regarding "were you ever 600lb"? That was hyperbole, of course, so let me rephrase: were you ever even overweight/overfat during a period where you didn't make unbalanced food choices predominantly focused on processed, fat, less-wholesome options?"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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01-22-2018, 10:25 AM #16
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01-22-2018, 10:30 AM #17
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seems like you're talking about hunger vs. craving.
much of this, I find, can be mitigated by not overstimulating your palate with copious amounts of 'hyper-palatable' foods which seem to - in my experience - create a desire or craving for contrasting flavors (ie - if I eat a salty pizza, I'm more likely to crave ice cream/sweets) before you even address the biological need for calories and specific nutritients. if you compare that to simply focusing mainly on a mindful approach (ie - before gorging on what you 'crave', satisfy the actual need for nutrition), usually people (I would think) become far less likely to overconsume.
Thats more what balance means to me... recognizing that hunger/eating/cravings are multi-faceted and trying to satisfy each based on priority: hunger/physical need for foods comes first, followed by things like how the food will make you feel, any specific 'cravings' (while still considering how satisfying that craving will make you feel/perform), etc..."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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01-22-2018, 12:31 PM #18
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01-22-2018, 03:21 PM #19
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Also... if this were actually true, i'd call you an idiot for ever staying 190lb... 190lb at 10% means you have 171lb of lean mass... 230 at 16% would mean 193lb of lean mass... and 16% isn't a high bodyfat%... highly doubt you could ever gain 22lb of lean mass in a 'short period of time'.
"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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01-22-2018, 05:08 PM #20
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01-22-2018, 05:12 PM #21
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01-22-2018, 05:23 PM #22
Some people have it much easier due to their body prefering lower bodyfat, those ppl struggle more to gain muscle and eat enough because of lack of hunger.
The other side od the spectrum some find it hard to lose fat, because body signals them they are hungry more.
Best bet is to eat quality a lot of whole protein sources and lots of vegetables and drink alot of water if ur not. That will maximize your ability to be satiated.
If that alone is not enough then ul have to start getting more methodical and be aware of food quantity and be sure to eat less and feel slightly hungry at night or start counting calories.
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01-22-2018, 05:39 PM #23
YES!
If you stick with intermittent fasting you will eventually grow enough mental discipline and willpower to resist hunger / cravings / binging ect. The first 3 days are hard but it really does get easier the longer you go. Im in the 250s and I fast everyday until 5-7pm and many times I'm not hungry. So I eat less and it helps me to stick to my diet without binging.
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01-22-2018, 06:06 PM #24
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01-22-2018, 06:42 PM #25
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01-23-2018, 01:06 AM #26
I think for a lot of people (like me), maintaining a calorie deficits and meeting nutritional needs are hard part. . If your trying to eat 150 grams of protein a day and keep the calories down to 2K, you really have to watch your protein sources. Basically you have to be either eating a ton of egg whites, 1.5 pounds of very lean meats/fish or take protein powder. If you go into medium fat protein territory you are quickly over that deficit.
I agree with your thing in principal. I tried if it fit your macros. I tried meal prep. I tried fasting. Then a girl I went on a couple of dates with made the comment, that average skinny person just forgets to eat and calorie counting just makes a person think about food all the time. After that I just started making a relatively high calorie protein shake a day and eating one or two high protein, nutritionally balanced meals. The weight seems to be coming off now.
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01-23-2018, 06:51 PM #27
Dropping weight is a sacrifice you have to chose lower calorie based foods or eat less of the high density ones.
But simple little things can help drop full cream milk for 1% or non dairy.
Cut the fat off your meat before cooking.
Eat loads of vegetables with each meal
Start Small and make adjustments this is not a race its a marathon it will take time, but ultimately you need a lifestyle change if you need to lose weight in the first place.You Cant Always Get What You Want.
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