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    Originally Posted by BrocepCurls View Post
    I've seen your posts dude, you're the definition of a tragic, self loathing, bootlicking cuck. The dude earning $50k who thinks the dude earning $30k is a lazy worthless parasite, not realising you're both part of the same underclass whose only purpose is to generate wealth for a group of elites, for which you get a pittance in return. Most people accept this because we need to do it to live, but you actually relish and enjoy your position as a modern day slave, or worse yet, think you are somehow experiencing "peak freedom"

    I'd love to see a psychologist study you and determine how such submissive, authority worshipping and self-hating desires come about in an otherwise healthy man
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    Another millenial bashing thread?

    Im doing well and dont expect handouts. Hell for this last yr of med school I'm working 80+ hours a week for free in the hospital taking care of older generations with preventable issues.



    So much armchair talk here but the generation before is responsible for some of the posturing some millenials do.

    So many label cultural marxism a new thing when drugs, premarital sex, divorce were things people in their 50s-60s now started.

    If a kid is raised in a broken home its not his fault his parents are dumbfuks. Sally the feminist is that way because her mom couldnt keep a guy and Chad the frat rapist is that way because he never knew his actions have consequences thanks to daddy lawyer. This is the same phenomenon why most catholic school girls are slutty.

    One generation passes its problems onto the next its not a new thing. Then the older gen picks a group like SJWs and paints the whole generation like that.

    I know people my age who given the resources the generation before was given would clean up. I mean college tuition at $500 a semester most of the time reimbursed by the government? Being able to afford a home and a family on a salary for a job out of high school?

    Great economic market it was for millenials too with the way Bushs economy made finding jobs a nightmare.

    Along with the hypocrisy some older people have wanting millenials to pay into Medicare when they havent had health problems thanks to advances in medicine. So they are communists on your fb screen but when you are old and need money for chronic issues its all of a sudden ok?
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    Which according to the average internet conservative, is "full communism bro"
    I just don't believe that someone that is undeserving should have the rights to the fruits of another mans labor. No one is entitled to anything. I also am on the libertarian spectrum of belief that the more government bureaucracy you have, the more of a chit show things are.

    I see it in business all the time. They become so wildly inefficient because of the amount of hands that are in the pot.
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    Originally Posted by TsarChasm View Post
    I just don't believe that someone that is undeserving should have the rights to the fruits of another mans labor..
    Ima stop you right there. Sounds like you're already on the socialism train, since that's exactly what we don't like about a capitalist structure. Capitalists having the right to the fruits of everyone else's labour, just by way of a title.

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    Originally Posted by BrocepCurls View Post
    Ima stop you right there. Sounds like you're already on the socialism train, since that's exactly what we don't like about a capitalist structure. Capitalists having the right to the fruits of everyone else's labour, just by way of a title.

    A pro capitalist when he realises no one recieves the fruits of his own labour under capitalism:



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    Employers arent entitled to your labor, which is why you have to sign an employment agreement before they get anything out of you. I'm not surprised you failed to grasp this but he was obviously referring to welfare leeches, thieves, socialists, etc
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Employers arent entitled to your labor, which is why you have to sign an employment agreement before they get anything out of you. I'm not surprised you failed to grasp this but he was obviously referring to welfare leeches, thieves, socialists, etc
    Workers agree to employment out of necessity/desperation for basic sustenance, as that is the only way to eat for the majority of humans under our current system. Anti-capitalists, libertarians, anarchists etc reject the idea that this should be default state of man, being forced to work for someone else and enrich them with your labour at the threat of starvation otherwise, and that we should structure society in a way where any and all humans can choose an alternative.

    It takes a very simple mind like yours to think that since humans do X because under the specific structure we live in, it's the only feasible option to not starve, that it represents an actual voluntary choice.
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    Originally Posted by BrocepCurls View Post
    Workers agree to employment out of necessity/desperation for basic sustenance, as that is the only way to eat for the majority of humans under our current system. Anti-capitalists, libertarians, anarchists etc reject the idea that this should be default state of man, being forced to work for someone else and enrich them with your labour at the threat of starvation otherwise, and that we should structure society in a way where any and all humans can choose an alternative.

    It takes a very simple mind like yours to think that since humans do X because under the specific structure we live in, it's the only feasible option to not starve, that it represents an actual voluntary choice.
    Tell this to the workers when they ask where their leader went. We, the soldiers of The National Liberation Front of America, in the name of the workers and all the oppressed of this imperialist country, have struck a fatal blow to the fascist police state. What better revolutionary example than to let their president perish in the inhuman dungeon of his own imperialist prison.
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    Originally Posted by BrocepCurls View Post
    Workers agree to employment out of necessity/desperation for basic sustenance, as that is the only way to eat for the majority of humans under our current system. Anti-capitalists, libertarians, anarchists etc reject the idea that this should be default state of man, being forced to work for someone else and enrich them with your labour at the threat of starvation otherwise, and that we should structure society in a way where any and all humans can choose an alternative.

    It takes a very simple mind like yours to think that since humans do X because under the specific structure we live in, it's the only feasible option to not starve, that it represents an actual voluntary choice.
    capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than your sh*tty socialist/communist systems ever have and ever will. Go back to your safe space where your "comrades" might actually respect what you have to say, although I doubt it.
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    Originally Posted by BrocepCurls View Post
    Workers agree to employment out of necessity/desperation for basic sustenance.
    No they don't. Not if they have a shred of ambition or negotiating skills. People with nothing to offer take what they can get. Once again it comes down to choice. If you choose not to develop anything other than basic skills which any 2-bit hack can walk in off the street and emulate, then you will not be able to command a higher wage. That is of course, your choice. Some of us pick the jobs we want.
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    We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?
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    Originally Posted by InstantLoser View Post
    No they don't. Not if they have a shred of ambition or negotiating skills. People with nothing to offer take what they can get. Once again it comes down to choice. If you choose not to develop anything other than basic skills which any 2-bit hack can walk in off the street and emulate, then you will not be able to command a higher wage. That is of course, your choice. Some of us pick the jobs we want.
    another thing commies never talk about is how a majority of the people who are in the lowest tax brackets end up moving into a higher tax bracket as they get older, develop more skills, and in turn become more valuable. Inversely, most people who are in the top 1% of our country, do not stay in that top 1% for their whole life, or even a whole decade.
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    another thing commies never talk about is how a majority of the people who are in the lowest tax brackets end up moving into a higher tax bracket as they get older, develop more skills, and in turn become more valuable. Inversely, most people who are in the top 1% of our country, do not stay in that top 1% for their whole life, or even a whole decade.
    It's like people who win the lottery, and are destitute again in 5 years because they can't manage their funds. I lol @ people who piss and moan about how Trump was "handed a million by his daddy" and so he didn't earn his wealth. Just lol.. Ok, tell me how many people win a million in the lottery and turn it into a multi-billion dollar empire and then become POTUS.
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    Originally Posted by InstantLoser View Post
    It's like people who win the lottery, and are destitute again in 5 years because they can't manage their funds. I lol @ people who piss and moan about how Trump was "handed a million by his daddy" and so he didn't earn his wealth. Just lol.. Ok, tell me how many people win a million in the lottery and turn it into a multi-billion dollar empire and then become POTUS.
    I heard someone take it the next step and say how if he had invested his inheritance in such and such funds he would have more than what he has accomplished - like that was some kind of detraction. I pointed out that thankfully we have businessmen like him that choose to create jobs and wealth for other people.
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    Originally Posted by InstantLoser View Post
    It's like people who win the lottery, and are destitute again in 5 years because they can't manage their funds. I lol @ people who piss and moan about how Trump was "handed a million by his daddy" and so he didn't earn his wealth. Just lol.. Ok, tell me how many people win a million in the lottery and turn it into a multi-billion dollar empire and then become POTUS.
    Exactly. And winning the lotto is more of a "rare" occurrence. The most common person brought up in income disparity is the business CEO. The left loves to use this person as an example of the greed of capitalism. They take the one year that a CEO sells off his stock, and then publicize his high "salary" but all the while ignoring that this is a one or two year boost in income.

    Thomas Sowell dissects the "Greed Fallacy" that so many commies love to fall back on. Here it is if you are interested in reading: https://townhall.com/columnists/thom...llacy-n1356926

    In an era when our media and even our education system exalt emotions, while ignoring facts and logic, perhaps we should not be surprised that so many people explain economics by "greed."

    Today there are adults -- including educated adults -- who explain multimillion-dollar corporate executives' salaries as being due to "greed."

    Think about it: I could become so greedy that I wanted a fortune twice the size of Bill Gates' -- but this greed would not increase my income by one cent.

    If you want to explain why some people have astronomical incomes, it cannot be simply because of their own desires -- whether "greedy" or not -- but because of what other people are willing to pay them.

    The real question, then, is: Why do other people choose to pay corporate executives so much?

    One popular explanation is that executive salaries are set by boards of directors who are spending the stockholders' money and do not care that they are overpaying a CEO, who may be the one responsible for putting them on the board of directors in the first place.

    It makes a neat picture and may even be true in some cases. What deals a body blow to this theory, however, is that CEO compensation is even higher in corporations owned by a few giant investment firms, as distinguished from corporations owned by thousands of individual stockholders.

    In other words, it is precisely where people are spending their own money and have financial expertise that they bid highest for CEOs. It is precisely where people most fully understand the difference that the right CEO can make in a corporation's profitability that they are willing to bid what it takes to get the executive they want.
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    Many observers who say that they cannot understand how anyone can be worth $100 million a year do not realize that it is not necessary that they understand it, since it is not their money.

    All of us have thousands of things happening around us that we do not understand. We use computers all the time but most of us could not build a computer if our life depended on it -- and those few individuals who could probably couldn't grow orchids or train horses.

    In short, we all have grossly inadequate knowledge in other people's specialties.

    The idea that everything must "justify itself before the bar of reason" goes back at least as far as the 18th century. But that just makes it a candidate for the longest-running fallacy in the world.

    Given the high degree of specialization in a modern economy, demanding that everything "justify itself before the bar of reason" means demanding that people who know what they are doing must be subject to the veto of people who don't have a clue about the decisions that they are second-guessing.

    It means demanding that ignorance override knowledge.

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    Exactly. And winning the lotto is more of a "rare" occurrence. The most common person brought up in income disparity is the business CEO. The left loves to use this person as an example of the greed of capitalism. They take the one year that a CEO sells off his stock, and then publicize his high "salary" but all the while ignoring that this is a one or two year boost in income.

    Thomas Sowell dissects the "Greed Fallacy" that so many commies love to fall back on. Here it is if you are interested in reading: https://townhall.com/columnists/thom...llacy-n1356926
    It's just the envy of the left. They can't help themselves and always demonize successful people, looking for ways to blame those people for all their problems, rather than taking the time to critically analyze their own failures. Self reflection is hard; blame is easy. Just look at how this is exemplified in feminism (blaming men for everything), or minorities blaming white people in general for their problems. It's always easier to find a group to "other", and lay all your troubles at their feet. This typifies the mentality of the modern leftist.
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    Once they have to leave the comfort of their mothers basements and start paying taxes, they will lose that socialist chit REAL quick. BTW i am a millennial, but was raised in a rural area where you started working on the farm at an extremely young age. The socialists are spoiled yuppie types who grew up in a cushy suburban mcmansion...everything including money, trophies, etc. have always been handed to them. They have never had to work hard for anything, so naturally this entitled attitude will carry over into adulthood until something changes in their lives.
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    Originally Posted by tk217 View Post
    My history classes glossed over communism from 1950 to 1980.

    People are just ill informed.
    My dad told me the same thing, that he had professors saying that Communism was the wave of the future.

    What's hilarious, is that this professor lived in a country where he could say such things. What do you think would happen, if he lived in the Soviet Union and preached about capitalism in class?
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