GOP lawmakers demand that 'alarming' memo on FISA abuses be made public

[NYPat]

I lost hope after Al From/Bill Clinton took over the party, in 2008 I voted for Obama as he espoused much New Deal rhetoric during the primary. After 4 years of GOP lite policy and Corporatist leanings I haven't been able to vote (D) since (even working for the party from 2014-17 on a State and National level to try and reintroduce the working class focus back into the party).

So what specifically were you hoping for?

[Stizzel]

If Trump is actually interviewing them then just lol.

http://time.com/4991267/donald-trump...ys-interviews/

It means hes making sure there are no more hold overs from obama/hillary.

[5x10]

Does this mean trump isn’t getting impeached?
I thought mueller was coming for him

[NYPat]

It means hes making sure there are no more hold overs from obama/hillary.

Fuking lol at micro-managing.

..and getting wrecked in the courts with his policies.

[WrestlingFan123]

So what specifically were you hoping for?

While working at the DNC I did outreach from party HQ to Bernie's primary campaign, Donna Brazile's book doesn't even skim the surface to the animosity the DNC machine had towards Bernie and his followers, in fact most of the big wigs within the party still feel as it is such a minority contingent they don't even see the point of any legitimate outreach(just watch Tom Perez speak).

[ohiostate124]

Fuking lol at micro-managing.

..and getting wrecked in the courts with his policies.

Wrecked in the courts? I hope you aren’t referring to the 9th circuit.

[5x10]

As trump would say, someone is going To get schlonged

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...06175239532545

[Herblore]

[Herblore]

[rocketfish]

I was away all day

holy fuk its finally happening

[NYPat]

Wrecked in the courts? I hope you aren’t referring to the 9th circuit.

Nah, I'm referring to Preet Bharara.

[ymer]

NYPat on suicide watch

[NYPat]

NYPat on suicide watch

Come at me?

[WrestlingFan123]

[ack33]

Well there goes that "Blue Wave" in 2018 that the left keeps saying is coming

[dweeegs]

Does this mean trump isn’t getting impeached?
I thought mueller was coming for him

Mueller is, hence why this Republican written memo is being amplified by Republican congressmen and Republican propaganda networks are declaring Mueller over (e.g. Hannity tonight)

Not that it might not be true. Obama was very anti privacy. I can bet that this has to do with using FISA and government resources to spy on the Trump campaign. We saw issues in the past relating to the IRS and conservative groups.

My guess: power play from the GOP to get Rosenstein out and someone who will disband the special counsel. The rhetoric over the course of the investigation has gone from there is no collusion to that's not technically collusion to the evidence is being gathered illegally, and also from Mueller is impartial to Mueller is a political hack. This is just a continuation of this. There hasn't been any huge testimony in the HIC recently to spur this. In fact Bannon is supposed to be interviewing now but is skipping out.

That's my opinion anyways. Hopefully that 4 page memo is sourced with raw sources and really isn't just a memo. But the timing and canned tweets are a little telling. If the democrats on the committee wrote a letter regarding Uranium One that they showed to Congress after a prosecutor announced he was looking at their financials and then we had like fukin Feinstein tweeting how horrible and shocking the letter was with CNN pounding their chests I think most people on this board would be like yea fukin right until it was released.

[5x10]

Mueller is, hence why this Republican written memo is being amplified by Republican congressmen and Republican propaganda networks are declaring Mueller over (e.g. Hannity tonight)

Not that it might not be true. Obama was very anti privacy. I can bet that this has to do with using FISA and government resources to spy on the Trump campaign. We saw issues in the past relating to the IRS and conservative groups.

My guess: power play from the GOP to get Rosenstein out and someone who will disband the special counsel. The rhetoric over the course of the investigation has gone from there is no collusion to that's not technically collusion to the evidence is being gathered illegally, and also from Mueller is impartial to Mueller is a political hack. This is just a continuation of this. There hasn't been any huge testimony in the HIC recently to spur this. In fact Bannon is supposed to be interviewing now but is skipping out.

That's my opinion anyways. Hopefully that 4 page memo is sourced with raw sources and really isn't just a memo. But the timing and canned tweets are a little telling. If the democrats on the committee wrote a letter regarding Uranium One that they showed to Congress after a prosecutor announced he was looking at their financials and then we had like fukin Feinstein tweeting how horrible and shocking the letter was with CNN pounding their chests I think most people on this board would be like yea fukin right until it was released.

so why would all dems vote against releasing this memo to the committee?

[dabbmw2002]

Mueller is, hence why this Republican written memo is being amplified by Republican congressmen and Republican propaganda networks are declaring Mueller over (e.g. Hannity tonight)

Not that it might not be true. Obama was very anti privacy. I can bet that this has to do with using FISA and government resources to spy on the Trump campaign. We saw issues in the past relating to the IRS and conservative groups.

My guess: power play from the GOP to get Rosenstein out and someone who will disband the special counsel. The rhetoric over the course of the investigation has gone from there is no collusion to that's not technically collusion to the evidence is being gathered illegally, and also from Mueller is impartial to Mueller is a political hack. This is just a continuation of this. There hasn't been any huge testimony in the HIC recently to spur this. In fact Bannon is supposed to be interviewing now but is skipping out.

That's my opinion anyways. Hopefully that 4 page memo is sourced with raw sources and really isn't just a memo. But the timing and canned tweets are a little telling. If the democrats on the committee wrote a letter regarding Uranium One that they showed to Congress after a prosecutor announced he was looking at their financials and then we had like fukin Feinstein tweeting how horrible and shocking the letter was with CNN pounding their chests I think most people on this board would be like yea fukin right until it was released.

There is no collusion......stop there. Unless of course you're privy to info no one else has

[vickissick07]

This is about to blow up big time.

Reports that Trump is at the pentagon meeting with the Chiefs of staff.

[ThePoz]

You guys are just making things up. I didn't see anything about this on CNN.

[dweeegs]

so why would all dems vote against releasing this memo to the committee?

Great question, either they're afraid it's half truths (I expect a lot of "that's out of context") or like I said Obama wasn't exactly stingey with how gov resources were used... the real question is how much and exactly how political was it. If it's funneling intelligence on Trump to the DNC level bad then I think the US would collectively **** their pants and maybe fukin finally this FISA crap ends along with the PATRIOT Act

[vickissick07]

“It is so alarming, the American people have to see it,” Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan said.

“It's troubling. It's shocking,” North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows said. “Part of me wishes I didn't read it. I don’t want to believe that those kinds of things are happening in this country that I love so much.”

“I believe the consequence of its release will be major changes in people currently working at the FBI and the Department of Justice,” Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz said.

“You think about, ‘is this happening in America or is this the KGB?’ That's how alarming it is,” Pennsylvania Rep. Scott Perry said.



Guys that have actually read the memo

[5x10]

Great question, either they're afraid it's half truths (I expect a lot of "that's out of context") or like I said Obama wasn't exactly stingey with how gov resources were used... the real question is how much and exactly how political was it. If it's funneling intelligence on Trump to the DNC level bad then I think the US would collectively **** their pants and maybe fukin finally this FISA crap ends along with the PATRIOT Act

half truths? You mean the ones congressmen are tweating about being worse than watergate?

[PhilAUS]

im excited but im not expecting much

[dweeegs]

There is no collusion......stop there. Unless of course you're privy to info no one else has

Not what I said in the post. But yes I am of the belief that there was an attempt by the campaign to work with the Russians given the emails exchanged between Jr and Goldstone, the Trump tower meeting, the lying to cover it up, the retweeting of Russian bots, and Trump's shady ties to the likes of Slater and other criminals. Whether you call that collusion or not is up to you but I'd like the investigation to finish

[ack33]

Why don't they do like Dianne Feinstein and just release it

[vickissick07]

“The House must immediately make public the memo prepared by the Intelligence Committee regarding the FBI and the Department of Justice. The facts contained in this memo are jaw-dropping and demand full transparency. There is no higher priority than the release of this information to preserve our democracy,” Rep. Gaetz said.

BACKGROUND INFORMATION

In December, Rep. Gaetz questioned Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in the House Judiciary Committee hearing about the clear examples of bias and conflicts of interest at the Department of Justice (DOJ), and within Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team of investigators. In his questions, Rep. Gaetz asked when the DOJ learned that Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce J. Ohr had contacted Christopher Steele, former British spy and author of the infamous ‘Trump dossier,’ a document called “salacious and unverified” by former FBI Director James Comey.

Additionally, Rep. Gaetz asked when the DOJ discovered that Mr. Ohr’s wife, Nellie, was employed by Fusion GPS, the company that sponsored the creation and distribution of the dossier. Mr. Rosenstein said that he could not answer Rep. Gaetz’s questions, but that documents would be turned over to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence — even though the Judiciary Committee, not the Intelligence Committee, has oversight authority over the DOJ.

Earlier in December, Rep. Gaetz questioned FBI Director Christopher Wray about former Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe’s statement that the FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s misuse of a personal email server was “referred to as ‘special’” and that “the decision was made to investigate it at HQ with a small team.”

In November, Reps. Gaetz, Gohmert, and Biggs, all members of the Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to Director Wray, asking for an investigation to be launched into the FBI’s treatment of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during their e-mail investigation. On December 6th, Congressman Gaetz, alongside Congressmen Jim Jordan (OH-04), Mark Meadows (NC-11), Scott Perry (PA-04), Jody Hice (GA-10), and Andy Biggs (AZ-05), held a press conference calling for an investigation into the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) system and procedures that allow special treatment and bias to take place, in order to prevent “special” treatment from happening again.



"To preserve our democracy"

[dabbmw2002]

Not what I said in the post. But yes I am of the belief that there was an attempt by the campaign to work with the Russians given the emails exchanged between Jr and Goldstone, the Trump tower meeting, the lying to cover it up, the retweeting of Russian bots, and Trump's shady ties to the likes of Slater and other criminals. Whether you call that collusion or not is up to you but I'd like the investigation to finish

The progression of the rhetoric you mention is not accurate.

[GaloisTheory]

Why don't they do like Dianne Feinstein and just release it

This contains lots of classified information and the other didn't. That's one good reason.

[dweeegs]

half truths? You mean the ones congressmen are tweating about being worse than watergate?

No I mean the actual contents of the memo. For instance if it says "Trump was wire tapped" and is supported by a snippet of testimony that says he was, but in reality the person he was talking to was someone else being wiretapped and the full testimony says Trump wasn't personally wiretapped but just caught on one...

That'd be a half truth. Lie of omission would be a better phrase I guess

I'm really hoping this four page memo comes with a lot of sourcing