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    A couple of years ago I was 54 and hit my highest ever on flat bench press at 360 at 204 BW and have a video here somewhere to prove it. Did 130 DB inclines for 4. Never got to 405 squat, but made it to a clean 385. I think my hormones are out of whack because my strength has tapered. Going to get them checked.

    But, in the meantime, as I mentioned some days ago, since I know what was like to be semi-strong, I changed my workouts to maintaining my strength, but doing different exercises and higher reps for aesthetics to see where it takes me.
    In life and in the gym we have to exceed our self-perceived abilities and take calculated risks, in order to succeed and to progress.
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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    Yep...
    Neat how your one word reply on an anonymous internet message board so eloquently captures the driving factor behind a strength coach who has written 2 books that have been published for 3 editions each.
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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    Yep...
    I like some of Rippetoe's philosophy, but the cranky old man routine combined with his utter disdain for any training method that differs from his own, gets a little old.
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    I think you misunderstood what I was saying, I didn't say use 70 as a dying point, I said use 70 as my mark when I would start to lift lighter weights.
    Ah, I get it now. You're right, I misunderstood.
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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    None of us is promised tomorrow.
    I know it at least as well as most. But those are "unforeseen circumstances", as far as I'm concerned. Accidents, diseases, and violence are, or at least should be, exceptions to the rule. They didn't used to be, but today they can be.

    For myself, regardless of how long I live, I hope my death is a tragedy, rather than being a relief after a long experience of a living tragedy. The best way to ensure that is to keep living well, if that's at all possible, up until the last minute. And that will require active and continuous intervention.
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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    LOL! I KNEW that out of all I wrote, this one sentence would be the only one that stuck! Well, I take the good with the bad. I can't do it twice within 60 minutes, but, if I'm enjoying myself and have the time, I can now do it for the better part of 60 minutes!
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    I like some of Rippetoe's philosophy, but the cranky old man routine combined with his utter disdain for any training method that differs from his own, gets a little old.
    Agreed. He's good for Starting Strength as I believe the big 3 are the best start for any lifter (vs the traditional abs & biceps) but his writing gets old pretty quick. I still think his writing on the mechanics and leverage involved in the big 3 are very valuable, and I agree with his philosophy on strength.
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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    Chapter 1, Paragraph 1 of Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength:

    "Physical strength is the most important thing in life. This is true whether we want it to be
    or not. As humanity has developed throughout history, physical strength has become less critical
    to our daily existence, but no less important to our lives. Our strength, more than any other thing
    we possess, still determines the quality and the quantity of our time here in these bodies. Whereas
    previously our physical strength determined how much food we ate and how warm and dry we
    stayed, it now merely determines how well we function in these new surroundings we have crafted
    for ourselves as our culture has accumulated. But we are still animals - our physical existence is, in
    the final analysis, the only one that actually matters. A weak man is not as happy as that same man
    would be if he were strong. This reality is offensive to some people who would like the intellectual
    or spiritual to take precedence. It is instructive to see what happens to these very people as their
    squat strength goes up."
    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    Neat how your one word reply on an anonymous internet message board so eloquently captures the driving factor behind a strength coach who has written 2 books that have been published for 3 editions each.
    Whatever dude... but the bolded above no matter how good a coach he is, is well, WRONG!

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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    Good luck with your goals in 2018.
    Thanks Man. Competing April 28, currently hold the squat, deadlift and total records in my division, but no way I'm beating the guy with a 420 bench
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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    Chapter 1, Paragraph 1 of Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength:

    "Physical strength is the most important thing in life. This is true whether we want it to be
    or not. As humanity has developed throughout history, physical strength has become less critical
    to our daily existence, but no less important to our lives. Our strength, more than any other thing
    we possess, still determines the quality and the quantity of our time here in these bodies. Whereas
    previously our physical strength determined how much food we ate and how warm and dry we
    stayed, it now merely determines how well we function in these new surroundings we have crafted
    for ourselves as our culture has accumulated. But we are still animals - our physical existence is, in
    the final analysis, the only one that actually matters. A weak man is not as happy as that same man
    would be if he were strong. This reality is offensive to some people who would like the intellectual
    or spiritual to take precedence
    . It is instructive to see what happens to these very people as their
    squat strength goes up."
    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    Whatever dude... but the bolded above no matter how good a coach he is, is well, WRONG!

    Good luck with your goals in 2018.
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    ^^^This scared the shiit out of me!!! So I only have six years left???
    Like what you lift even matters LOL...

    Can't fuk 2x in an hr...

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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    Like what you lift even matters LOL...

    Can't fuk 2x in an hr...
    I could've lied, but I'm not an e-stat kinda guy. I did say I can fk for nearly an hour these days tho.


    On another thread related topic, I'm sure you've seen the white oval stickers on cars that have marathon run kilometers in them? I hate those, primarily because of what I perceive as people thinking running is a legit, professionals type of training while weightlifting is for mouthbreathers of a lower status. Anyways, one day I'm gonna get me a white oval with my max lift from a given movement in there, ie: max squat; max bench, and max dead (although my max dead wasn't white square worthy, to be honest)
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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    I could've lied, but I'm not an e-stat kinda guy. I did say I can fk for nearly an hour these days tho.
    I hope you know I was only joking around. I've always been a quality over quantity kinda girl.
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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    Different strokes for different folks I guess.
    you could use that in every single situation when you can't back up an argument.
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    you could use that in every single situation when you can't back up an argument.
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    you could use that in every single situation when you can't back up an argument.
    Why did you create an account here?
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    Originally Posted by uksenior View Post
    I dont understand the point of being overly strong, we have lots of lifting aids in this day and age, why is being very strong an advantage in everyday life?
    The point is in the training itself. Say for example some guy is doing his tut curls and stretchy band thing in the squat rack. The physically strong person could simply overpower the guy, picking him and his little weights up and hurl him across the gym. The overpowered person would be left bruised, battered, and too humiliated to finish his workout and losing gainz, while the "overly strong guy" would proceed to do heavy squats and build his his strength and mass. It's a scenario that plays out everyday in nature. .

    Actually being somewhat strong is beneficial to me in life. I do lot of outdoor activities. It's nice to be able to pick up and move heavy things like logs blocking trails, dead animals (aka protein) and dragging boats out of the water etc. I don't need to McGuiver a mechanical aid so it's more efficient use of my recreational time.
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    I could've lied, but I'm not an e-stat kinda guy. I did say I can fk for nearly an hour these days tho.


    On another thread related topic, I'm sure you've seen the white oval stickers on cars that have marathon run kilometers in them? I hate those, primarily because of what I perceive as people thinking running is a legit, professionals type of training while weightlifting is for mouthbreathers of a lower status. Anyways, one day I'm gonna get me a white oval with my max lift from a given movement in there, ie: max squat; max bench, and max dead (although my max dead wasn't white square worthy, to be honest)

    "I hate those, primarily because of what I perceive as people thinking running is a legit, professionals type of training while weightlifting is for mouthbreathers of a lower status."

    "what I perceive "

    FYI real athletes can do both, run 13.1 and lift decent weights when not in training for running/racing mode. Those ovals( i don't have one) are for self pride like your Trump sticker on your truck.
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    Why did you create an account here?
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    Originally Posted by Plateauplower View Post
    The point is in the training itself. Say for example some guy is doing his tut curls and stretchy band thing in the squat rack. The physically strong person could simply overpower the guy, picking him and his little weights up and hurl him across the gym. The overpowered person would be left bruised, battered, and too humiliated to finish his workout and losing gainz, while the "overly strong guy" would proceed to do heavy squats and build his his strength and mass. It's a scenario that plays out everyday in nature. .

    Actually being somewhat strong is beneficial to me in life. I do lot of outdoor activities. It's nice to be able to pick up and move heavy things like logs blocking trails, dead animals (aka protein) and dragging boats out of the water etc. I don't need to McGuiver a mechanical aid so it's more efficient use of my recreational time.
    I was once on a trail when I saw a huge log which was blocking the path, I stepped over it.
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    I was once on a trail when I saw a huge log which was blocking the path, I stepped over it.
    You left your car behind???
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    You left your car behind???
    Cars?

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    Originally Posted by uksenior View Post
    Cars?

    Real men walk...
    LMFAO!!! You got me there
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    Originally Posted by uksenior View Post
    I was once on a trail when I saw a huge log which was blocking the path, I stepped over it.
    Jeez, I'm surprised you had the strength to lift your foot up more than a couple inches off the ground, how'd you manage that adrenaline?
    A bigger back will make a bigger waist look a little smaller....

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    Why did you create an account here?
    Haven't you noticed all the noobie naturals curling 10 pounds for 100 reps in the squat cage?
    My 6 years of progress (with pics) thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173360231
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    "I hate those, primarily because of what I perceive as people thinking running is a legit, professionals type of training while weightlifting is for mouthbreathers of a lower status."

    "what I perceive "

    FYI real athletes can do both, run 13.1 and lift decent weights when not in training for running/racing mode. Those ovals( i don't have one) are for self pride like your Trump sticker on your truck.
    Geeeez, you have a problem with me! But, keep putting the smiley face at the end of your rants against me. It really puts some sugar in your bitterness.
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    Originally Posted by uksenior View Post
    to get people to write thinly disguised subliminal posts to try and influence moderators to ban my account.
    I miss the days when multi account trolls were either funny or poignant.
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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    I miss the days when multi account trolls were either funny or poignant.
    Just one account, pics posted, no hiding mate....its just me.

    Forums should be about having a bit of fun along the way, if its just going to be about bodybuilding and weightlifting its going to get pretty boring pretty fast.
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    Originally Posted by uksenior View Post
    Just one account, pics posted, no hiding mate....its just me.

    Forums should be about having a bit of fun along the way, if its just going to be about bodybuilding and weightlifting its going to get pretty boring pretty fast.
    Agreed. This is the Misc section after all. I don't think there is a discussion about weight training that I haven't had in the past 30+ years. I find them to boil own to boring retreads about ego and who's 'better' or who is the most dedicated or who works out the hardest, blah, blah, blah.
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