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01-12-2018, 06:16 PM #31
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01-12-2018, 06:23 PM #32
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I know it at least as well as most. But those are "unforeseen circumstances", as far as I'm concerned. Accidents, diseases, and violence are, or at least should be, exceptions to the rule. They didn't used to be, but today they can be.
For myself, regardless of how long I live, I hope my death is a tragedy, rather than being a relief after a long experience of a living tragedy. The best way to ensure that is to keep living well, if that's at all possible, up until the last minute. And that will require active and continuous intervention.“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
-Voltaire
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01-12-2018, 06:25 PM #33
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01-12-2018, 06:34 PM #34
Agreed. He's good for Starting Strength as I believe the big 3 are the best start for any lifter (vs the traditional abs & biceps) but his writing gets old pretty quick. I still think his writing on the mechanics and leverage involved in the big 3 are very valuable, and I agree with his philosophy on strength.
Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
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01-12-2018, 06:38 PM #35
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01-12-2018, 06:56 PM #36
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01-12-2018, 07:19 PM #37
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01-12-2018, 08:13 PM #38
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01-12-2018, 10:38 PM #39
I could've lied, but I'm not an e-stat kinda guy. I did say I can fk for nearly an hour these days tho.
On another thread related topic, I'm sure you've seen the white oval stickers on cars that have marathon run kilometers in them? I hate those, primarily because of what I perceive as people thinking running is a legit, professionals type of training while weightlifting is for mouthbreathers of a lower status. Anyways, one day I'm gonna get me a white oval with my max lift from a given movement in there, ie: max squat; max bench, and max dead (although my max dead wasn't white square worthy, to be honest)Envy is ignorance. Imitation is suicide.
-----R. W. Emerson
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01-13-2018, 11:47 AM #40
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01-13-2018, 01:13 PM #41
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01-13-2018, 03:37 PM #42
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01-14-2018, 08:30 AM #43
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Will be 56 in a couple of weeks. Still train for strength and still manage to press 100lb dumbbells and more at times. Will do as long as my body allows although some days seems tougher. But figure if I keep my strength up, physically I still get tons of complements in and out of the gym. Just figure I will stay the course so I can continue enjoying life more than my other friends my age that are crippled up from lack of physical activity. I do have friends (few) that don't lift but they at least are conscious of eating and stay healthy and can do what they enjoy in life. Overweight kills the sex drive big time. Hear it all the time. Still waiting on mine to drop.....lol. Stay healthy and happy!
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01-14-2018, 09:14 AM #44
The point is in the training itself. Say for example some guy is doing his tut curls and stretchy band thing in the squat rack. The physically strong person could simply overpower the guy, picking him and his little weights up and hurl him across the gym. The overpowered person would be left bruised, battered, and too humiliated to finish his workout and losing gainz, while the "overly strong guy" would proceed to do heavy squats and build his his strength and mass. It's a scenario that plays out everyday in nature. .
Actually being somewhat strong is beneficial to me in life. I do lot of outdoor activities. It's nice to be able to pick up and move heavy things like logs blocking trails, dead animals (aka protein) and dragging boats out of the water etc. I don't need to McGuiver a mechanical aid so it's more efficient use of my recreational time.
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01-14-2018, 09:31 AM #45
"I hate those, primarily because of what I perceive as people thinking running is a legit, professionals type of training while weightlifting is for mouthbreathers of a lower status."
"what I perceive "
FYI real athletes can do both, run 13.1 and lift decent weights when not in training for running/racing mode. Those ovals( i don't have one) are for self pride like your Trump sticker on your truck.There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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01-14-2018, 10:45 AM #46
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01-14-2018, 11:53 AM #47
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01-14-2018, 12:18 PM #48
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01-14-2018, 12:28 PM #49
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01-14-2018, 12:40 PM #50
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01-14-2018, 08:30 PM #51
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01-15-2018, 07:38 AM #52
Agreed. This is the Misc section after all. I don't think there is a discussion about weight training that I haven't had in the past 30+ years. I find them to boil own to boring retreads about ego and who's 'better' or who is the most dedicated or who works out the hardest, blah, blah, blah.
Envy is ignorance. Imitation is suicide.
-----R. W. Emerson
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01-15-2018, 08:17 AM #53
“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general.” - Mark Rippetoe
As with many competitive sports,in PL there are age/weight classes. Being the strongest version of yourself at any given age and living in the moment is the key for me. Going to comps getting to know lifters who are hitting PRs their clasess and breaking records in their 60s and 70s gives me a lot of inspiration and optimism about the future and motivates me to keep training hard but with good form and allowing a lot of time for recovery. In PL, the records are published and that sets the bar or a target to shoot for. Either you lift it, or you can't. Simple but not easy. The process of creating a plan, then working it and breaking a plateau in a concrete and measurable way is extremely satisfying. The best workout is the one you consistently do. So whatever works. If aesthetics motivate you more than strength, then feed your motivation.
Knowing myself, a focus on aesthetics, I could see leading me to a state of continued and growing dissatisfaction with image versus a focus on strength as the foundation of overall healthy living and pursuing outdoor sports and learning new ones (snowboarding 40s, surfing 50s). It's simplistic but my focus is on what I can actually do/achieve, rather than how I look in the mirror, or looking like I lift. I'm sure you have seen the infographics showing the wide range of body types in "athletes." There is no one "look" per se. I amazed also at the return on investment. By that I mean 4 hours a week of consistent training over time has yielded results I never imagined when I started.
The relationship about between how we "looK" and how we "feel" about ourselves is an interesting one. I have become happier becoming less concerned about my "look." But for others it will be the opposite. There are continual transformation challenges on here and the "before" and "after" pics are inspiring. Looking and feeling better are connected. On some level I think we are happiest setting, pursuing and achieving goals. It's about progress and adopting a "growth mindset" on some level. It's up to you to define exactly what "growth" means to you. It's not a constant either. As we age, the variables and what we consider "progress" evolves as we do.
It's not that there aren't spillover aesthetic improvements. As a 50+ year-old, when I was on my solo surf trip to CR trip, the place was thick with lean shredded surfers. At the surf camp I stayed at, on my last night when I mentioned my age one of the women wouldn't believe it. I had to show her ID. After the surf camp ended I switched to a new place and was pleasantly shocked to find myself closing my hotel bar and an after hours place with a gorgeous beauty 15 years my junior.
As you know the gyms are packed right now so I had to work in with a young guy the other day (I train at a University gym). He was a black kid, varsity soccer player. His physique was perfect, shredded, probably 8% bodyfat. But he was benching 1 plate. I worked up to my working sets of 255 and he looks a bit stunned and asks me "How did you become so strong." Variations of this comment arise pretty regularly.
I quoted Rip above because last spring I dug up about 400 square feet of sod, built two container gardens, had more than 4 tons of base gravel and pea gravel dumped on my driveway. I don't know how may wheel barrows of sod/base rock/pea gravel I moved, but I did it on my own. Late summer I was dining al fresco and enjoying a fresh tomato basil pasta dinner. Nothing like eating produce you have grown from a garden you built from scratch - very satisfying. When furniture and appliances need to be moved, I move them, I don't call someone.
I was already an "old" feeling sedentary f*ck at 45, suffering insomnia, acid reflux et and I asked myself what did I want my life to feel like at 50. Now I'm living it. Periodized heavy strength strength training has been the key that made everything else possible. It made me learn the deadlift. It made me thing about balance between posterior and anterior muscle groups. That led to thinking about balance in other respects. That got me thinking about my nutrition, sleep, functional mobility etc. Tracking success and progress built confidence which then got me asking the other questions. If you want to snowboard, then do it. You want to surf, then do it.CPU National Championship Bench March '17 - 130 kilos 286 lbs, M2-93 kilo class
Raw Bench Bash August 17 - 135 kilos/297 lbs, M2-93 kilo class
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