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    Supplement conflicts and general advice. (In need)

    I've been working out consistently for about 3 months, gradually increasing the amount of supplements I'm taking (Or going to take) and I've done as much research as I can but am worried about two major things; Supplement conflicts and uneccesary supplementation. Below is a list of supplements and the brands of each, as well as what I've been taking and what I plan on taking. I plan on taking them all at the same time(Not all at once, but in general), in accordance with their different phases and on/off cycles. There are multiple brands for each because I've been trying them out, still deciding on which work best for me.

    TAKING NOW :
    - Pre-workout (Kaged, C4 or Jym)
    - Whey protein (Jym, PEScience or ON)
    - Multi-vitamin (Opti-Men or MuscleTech)

    PLANNING ON TAKING(Ordered) :
    - Creatine Mono (MuscleTech)
    - L-Glutamine (EVLution)
    - Nutrient Partitioner (Universal Animal M-Stak)
    - BCAA's (EVLution)

    CURIOUS ABOUT :
    - Any sort of testosterone enhancer.

    I'm 24, not 48. I have no idea how to change that.

    I'm 5'8", 165lb and have zero allergies, medical conditions or intolerances. My goal is building muscle and bulking, not necessarily cutting or fat-burning. Also, I have zero problems with taste(I've found that the worst tasting things usually work the best)
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    Wow, what a collage of brands

    Keep it simple.
    Essentials: Creatine mono and a quality fish oil.
    Whey if you are short of protein for your daily intake.
    Pre-workout for better performance.. which C4 did you get?
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    The staples are usually multi, fish oil, creatine and whey protein. You can add perhaps a pre-workout to help with better energy while working out

    Make sure your nutrition is in check first~
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    Only keep the creatine out of what you're planning to get. The real question is how is your diet in terms of helping you meet your goals? What kind of caloric surplus? How consistent are you? What are you work outs like?



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    I see you wrote 'Likely don't need' meaning there's a chance they will do something? Money isn't an issue, even if the benefit would be minimal. I'm trying to maximize my workout as much as possible. You asked a couple of questions :
    - Diet : A little difficult to maximize since I'm in a location where grocery shopping is not possible, nor is cooking for myself. I eat 4 hard-boiled eggs with varying cereal for breakfast. 2 chicken breast with rice and greens for lunch and 4 more eggs with an omelet, sausage and bacon for dinner. (Work hours are whack). Also, 3 liters of water daily. 16 fl ounces of 1% milk in protein shake. (Whole milk unavailable).
    - Consistency : 6 days a week for the past 3 months.
    - What are the workouts like? : 1 to 1.5 hours depending on what day it is. Main lifts are high weight, low reps.

    I don't know if I'm missing anything important, I'm far from experienced with diet or lifting.
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    Originally Posted by cliftonknee View Post
    I see you wrote 'Likely don't need' meaning there's a chance they will do something? Money isn't an issue, even if the benefit would be minimal. I'm trying to maximize my workout as much as possible. You asked a couple of questions :
    - Diet : A little difficult to maximize since I'm in a location where grocery shopping is not possible, nor is cooking for myself. I eat 4 hard-boiled eggs with varying cereal for breakfast. 2 chicken breast with rice and greens for lunch and 4 more eggs with an omelet, sausage and bacon for dinner. (Work hours are whack). Also, 3 liters of water daily. 16 fl ounces of 1% milk in protein shake. (Whole milk unavailable).
    - Consistency : 6 days a week for the past 3 months.
    - What are the workouts like? : 1 to 1.5 hours depending on what day it is. Main lifts are high weight, low reps.

    I don't know if I'm missing anything important, I'm far from experienced with diet or lifting.
    How long have you been doing that set up with your diet? Are you consistently adding in kcals as needed? What are your macros, and what kind of caloric surplus are you in, because what you just listed seems inadequate with very little carbs.

    When I said "likely do not need" I was being generous. Take the money you'd have spent on those supps and buy more food. If you're not gaining you're not eating enough, and your diet is something that should be constantly be updated.
    Supplement a good diet: don't diet on supplements.

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    If your goal is to gain weight, you want to ensure that you are eating in a caloric surplus diet (above maintenance cals).

    Supplements really come down to what is missing in your diet (i.e. protein powder to help you reach your protein macro/targets, etc.).

    Based on your list above I would quickly drop glutamine & BCAA (esp. if bulking).
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    I've only been doing this with my diet since I started working out 3 months ago. Before that my diet was terrible. And it sounds like it still is. I probably get around 200 - 250 grams of carbs a day if I'm lucky. Honestly, I doubt I'm in any sort of caloric surplus. I'm seeing fitness results, but It's mostly cutting and I'm staying pretty much the same weight. Over 150 grams of protein. Fat I haven't been tracking, which I know holds the majority of the calories. I know I asked for general advice, and I greatly appreciate your answers, but my main interest was conflicts between the different supplements, for if I were to try them for the sake of curiosity. Conflicts as in if any two would be harmful together, or if one would negate the effects of another.
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    Originally Posted by Heizz View Post
    If your goal is to gain weight, you want to ensure that you are eating in a caloric surplus diet (above maintenance cals).

    Supplements really come down to what is missing in your diet (i.e. protein powder to help you reach your protein macro/targets, etc.).

    Based on your list above I would quickly drop glutamine & BCAA (esp. if bulking).
    Glutamine was one of the supplements I was most interested in, mind if I ask why it is one to be dropped?
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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    Only keep the creatine out of what you're planning to get. The real question is how is your diet in terms of helping you meet your goals? What kind of caloric surplus? How consistent are you? What are you work outs like?



    We can try to sell you stuff you likely don't need, or we can try to lead you in the right direction and save you a lot of trial and error.
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    Originally Posted by cliftonknee View Post
    I've only been doing this with my diet since I started working out 3 months ago. Before that my diet was terrible. And it sounds like it still is. I probably get around 200 - 250 grams of carbs a day if I'm lucky. Honestly, I doubt I'm in any sort of caloric surplus. I'm seeing fitness results, but It's mostly cutting and I'm staying pretty much the same weight. Over 150 grams of protein. Fat I haven't been tracking, which I know holds the majority of the calories. I know I asked for general advice, and I greatly appreciate your answers, but my main interest was conflicts between the different supplements, for if I were to try them for the sake of curiosity. Conflicts as in if any two would be harmful together, or if one would negate the effects of another.
    Healthy fats are important. I'd like to get around 76-80 grms a day to keep everything working right. Nothing worse than being all show and no go. Easiest way I found is organic unrefined coconut oil. Basically two tablespoons a day in your oats and your off to a running start.
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    Originally Posted by cliftonknee View Post
    I've only been doing this with my diet since I started working out 3 months ago. Before that my diet was terrible. And it sounds like it still is. I probably get around 200 - 250 grams of carbs a day if I'm lucky. Honestly, I doubt I'm in any sort of caloric surplus. I'm seeing fitness results, but It's mostly cutting and I'm staying pretty much the same weight. Over 150 grams of protein. Fat I haven't been tracking, which I know holds the majority of the calories. I know I asked for general advice, and I greatly appreciate your answers, but my main interest was conflicts between the different supplements, for if I were to try them for the sake of curiosity. Conflicts as in if any two would be harmful together, or if one would negate the effects of another.
    Fact still remains if you're diet is inadequate there's no supplements that will benefit you. See sig:


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    Glutamine is an abundantly found amino acid. You take in more than enough through whole foods. It's not going to benefit you.
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    Originally Posted by cliftonknee View Post
    Glutamine was one of the supplements I was most interested in, mind if I ask why it is one to be dropped?
    since glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the body and getting plenty from food is easy, and supplementing with extra is of no use, its best not to waste money.
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