Has anyone seen this?
https://www.genesisjack.com/shop/preorder
Curious what you guys think of the design. I have a normal deadlift jack. I prefer that design to this design, but there's a lot of pros to this one & it's less than a 1/4 of the price of the Rogue HD Bar Jack. Thoughts?
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Thread: Genesis Deadlift Jack
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12-23-2017, 03:17 PM #1
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12-23-2017, 04:55 PM #2
I literally just got a full deadlift jack from Rogue. Otherwise, I would definitely buy this. Hell, I still might depending on how annoying it is to move the full jack around.
I think the design looks pretty cool, but, most importantly, it looked easy to use and even easier to store.()---() York Barbell Club #76 (RH) ()---()
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12-23-2017, 04:56 PM #3
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12-23-2017, 05:15 PM #4
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looks nifty. is there any worry about aggressive knurling wearing out the uhmw with the way it's installed like that? i wouldn't normally figure uhmw wears out easily, but considering how much weight some people can deadlift i wonder if the solid patch of uhmw would hold up any differently?
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12-23-2017, 06:10 PM #5
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I'm curious about it. The design is cringe worthy for those with wooden platforms. For the majority of us who don't have wood (hehe), it's a nice option.
Would love to, but I'll have my hands tied for some time.
No clue, but you can replace it. I don't think it's going to rotate much when using the device.
I wish they'd make a normal deadlift jack like this single design. I'd probably snap it up. My deadlift jack is always getting in the way. Mine has no knurling & hasn't damage my bar nor has it taken beating. It's closer to 15 years old, so anything made decently will last. I wouldn't be so concerned.Crews: Ivanko Barbell Crew #52, York Barbell Club #95, Equipment Crew #59
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12-23-2017, 07:23 PM #6
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12-23-2017, 07:26 PM #7
Yeah, it would probably eat into a wooden platform. I don't think it would be awful though. It would probably only bother people who don't actually use their equipment lol.
Would love to, but I'll have my hands tied for some time.
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12-23-2017, 07:27 PM #8
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I have a mini dl Jack and is tough to use when in my power rack using bands due to the distance it has to travel. Hoping this is
better.
And fyi I have a wooden section in my rack this will be used on. Will see how it holds up. I made it so it swaps in and out for replacements overtime so not worried.My Training Journal: http://tinyurl.com/jasons-journal
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12-23-2017, 08:02 PM #9
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12-23-2017, 09:40 PM #10
Seems like an interesting idea. If it had been a kickstarter with a larger preorder perhaps making it cheaper both for the product and shipping I may have tried. But at $85 all in it seems pricey. I paid less for my full jack.
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12-23-2017, 10:50 PM #11
Not much less, I imagine. The Titan is $77, and I suspect the fit and finish of this would be nicer.
If you have the space for a full jack, then I think those will generally be preferable, but this seems to be a great option for people who don't have that space available.Last edited by jimbuick; 12-24-2017 at 01:25 AM.
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12-23-2017, 11:47 PM #12
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looks very similar to a single aluminum jack i had once.
i dont like single jacks cause it does roll the bar to one side some.
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12-24-2017, 07:29 AM #13
I was waiting on a real world review and saw that one yesterday so got it pre-ordered. I have a West Cary mini deadlift jack, which works well, but it moves the bar a pretty good distance. This looks like it'll work better for my small space. And it's much lighter so my wife will enjoy that. Pretty cool design! I generally hate buying "1st gen" products, but the pre-order lower price helped seal the deal.
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12-24-2017, 09:26 AM #14
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Yep I have the bright red West Cary too.
I'm hoping the genesis does have a reduced travel distance. If I had the room for a full jack I would get one but I need to conserve space where I can.My Training Journal: http://tinyurl.com/jasons-journal
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12-24-2017, 10:32 AM #15
I’ve got the West Carry single jack I use with my trap bar and I use a full sized Rogue jack for regular deadlift bars... the full sized jack is a PITA to store... due to its shape.
This is a really nice jack. I like that it’s truly portable.
My only concern is stability of the jack since it only has a base of 7”. I would have liked to see Brandon testing it a little more. It does look solid though.
*After watching the official demo video they did an awesome job displaying the jack in use. The Genesis jack does appear really stable while in use laterally and forward/aft.Last edited by Nebamartinez; 12-24-2017 at 11:04 AM. Reason: Update
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12-24-2017, 11:24 AM #16
I do like the design however, I have a basic one from BWTG that's serving its purpose. I guess I could see an advantage if I lifted in a public gym, as it does seem smaller. Price is good.
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12-24-2017, 12:48 PM #17
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Amen. Without unlimited room it really does take some space. I love having it and my hand is finally healing to where I can pull decently again so it will see use but seeing this...my mind toys with going back to a mini, this version or otherwise.
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12-24-2017, 02:13 PM #18
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12-26-2017, 08:13 AM #19
I was going to pull the trigger on the Titan full DL jack. At $77 it seems like a no brainer, but Brandon in his review videos makes an excellent point on space being a preimium with garage gyms. And since i’m only working with half a two car garage that’s already pretty tight with a rack, GHB and reverse hyper, the room for a full jack might not be there. The genesis jack IMO is a better fit, easier to use and easier to transport. Especially for those who bring their own equipment on detachments and deployments. I was #133 when I placed my order on the 23rd. Hopefully the remaining 117 units sell quickly.
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12-26-2017, 08:17 AM #20
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Oh I didn't even notice my number. I am #155 also ordered on the 23rd so they are moving.
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12-26-2017, 08:26 AM #21
I'd be interested to hear how it holds up during loading and unloading. I've got the rogue mini, don't deadlift 1,000lbs and have a carpeted gym so I'm not sure this one would be an improvement or not. But I have noticed that the mini style jack can be a bit shaky laterally if you don't get it lined up just right or you slide the plates on hard.
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12-26-2017, 08:47 AM #22
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This jack can lift a tank and no way there will be any stability issues. Everyone needs to buy one now. Trust me as I only want to get more sold to get mine sooner.
But if you watch Brandon's video as he loads up 1000 lbs there is a bit of wobble but no failure. Could be placement too.My Training Journal: http://tinyurl.com/jasons-journal
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12-26-2017, 09:17 AM #23
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12-26-2017, 12:16 PM #24
As a side note, I feel like an idiot for not coming up with this design. Pretty cool how people can think outside the box and improve on an existing idea/concept. I hope the dude has a patent and makes a little money off this thing.
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12-28-2017, 02:53 PM #25
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Can keep up with updates in their Instagram. They're doing a pretty good job being open about where they are and when to expect to start shipping which is late January.
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12-28-2017, 07:06 PM #26
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12-28-2017, 08:00 PM #27
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Yeah, I don't think I would have ordered it with out several other reviews on them at regular price + the shipping. I wonder if they thought about just shipping them out as a kit not assembled. Seems pretty simple to put together and would get them shipped out quicker. Take a few dollars off the top.
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12-28-2017, 08:21 PM #28
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Hmm... watching the video again I like how close this can get to the sleeve. Like butt up to it. Trying to use a my current deadlift jack with block pulls sucks with to much travel and having to raise the jack up with a block under it. I bet I could use this right on the blocks I'm pulling from no fuss. Well, that's a hope anyway. Can't wait to try that out.
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12-28-2017, 09:12 PM #29
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01-01-2018, 12:51 PM #30
Saw Brandons video about this, but unfortunately AFTER the 25th, so was too late for the pre-order pricing. If I pay retail, I may as well wait for all of your to review it and potentially get a v2.0 product
I've seen DIY designs like this made out of wood. Here are a few examples, but the first one is what gave me a similar idea to do in a 2x4.
1) This is the one I initially got a similar idea from: https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/19001-13702
2) http://www.imgrum.org/media/1626519803479257652_2942659
3) Traditional design in wood: http://ironstrong.org/topic/649-deadlift-jack/
4) Another one:
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